High draft pick but what’s he done?
late first/early second?
Not surprising he has not done much. He was a first year Key Position player. Those sort of players usually don't come on until they are 22 or 23.
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High draft pick but what’s he done?
late first/early second?
Preseason draft, 1st pick.High draft pick but what’s he done?
late first/early second?
The concern is he doesn’t appear to have any elite traits to transfer to afl level. He’s very very slow, moves like a statue and doesn’t read the ball in flight particularly well. Does he have enough to overcome the athletic concerns? He made his name in his draft year with his intercept marking but a few draft watchers attributed that to some very average opposing key forwards and some very poor ball use.Not surprising he has not done much. He was a first year Key Position player. Those sort of players usually don't come on until they are 22 or 23.
Preseason draft, 1st pick.
Karma.
what..Karma for losing greenwood the year before when GC were flush with all sorts of better end picks, they told us take a 3rd and future 4th (they were using neither) or we will get him in the PSD..that Karma?Berry went at pick 28 not 40. Regardless you offered a pick you knew was unders, as you could take him in the pre-season draft. If the same thing happens to you with McAsey, it's football karma in my book.
you are not factoring in the the crows might have pick 1 in the PSD...againPreseason draft, 1st pick.
Karma.
In hindsight the system should not work like thatThey could have got Berry with that pick. In hindsight they should have taken it.
And you're going to use it to take a kid who doesn't want to be there? I don't think so mateyou are not factoring in the the crows might have pick 1 in the PSD...again
You can’t be worse than North surely?you are not factoring in the the crows might have pick 1 in the PSD...again
well it is going to depend how angry the club are about possibly losing him for nothing..but if nothing else it becomes a bargaining chip or at least removes that threat being used by other clubsAnd you're going to use it to take a kid who doesn't want to be there? I don't think so mate
So your saying you did the same thing Gold Coast did to you? Well clearly if your club believes it's a worthwhile strategy you won't begrudge another team doing it to you. By the way, the trade for Greenwood was fair in my book.what..Karma for losing greenwood the year before when GC were flush with all sorts of better end picks, they told us take a 3rd and future 4th (they were using neither) or we will get him in the PSD..that Karma?
read the post - gold coast low balled us just the year before. Difference was we took the scraps. GWS chose not to with Hately. So the Karma post was just trolling rubbishSo your saying you did the same thing Gold Coast did to you? Well clearly if your club believes it's a worthwhile strategy you won't begrudge another team doing it to you. By the way, the trade for Greenwood was fair in my book.
Losing a list spot to a kid who is going to poison culture for 2 years is far worse than losing out on a pick.well it is going to depend how angry the club are about possibly losing him for nothing..but if nothing else it becomes a bargaining chip or at least removes that threat being used by other clubs
I don't actually begrudge McAsey heading home with his father being as ill as he is. I'd like to think the club and McAsey's manager can work together to help facilitate the move. I like to think a late 1st or early 2nd is about where the value sits - no chance it is any higher unless he plays out his skin this year which with his old man being unwell may play on him and not allow him to see his best footyLosing a list spot to a kid who is going to poison culture for 2 years is far worse than losing out on a pick.
In any case, most clubs aren't going to walk anyone to a draft. You'll get something that isn't insulting.
I'd bet my left nut you won't redraft a kid who wanted out.you are not factoring in the the crows might have pick 1 in the PSD...again
well they might if it is the difference between getting nothing or holding the kid - it most certainly becomes a negotiation tool..then who calls who's bluffI'd bet my left nut you won't redraft a kid who wanted out.
Adelaide can't play the bluff card after Crouch.
Every team loses 27 year old fringe players for scraps, not hard to find examples. An apples to apples example is Hately to McAsey, both 1st round picks who want to return home after 2 years or potentially so in McAseys case. I'm saying don't bleat if you're offered a pick in the mid 30's that you believe isn't fair value. You should just accept it, same as you believe GWS should have.read the post - gold coast low balled us just the year before. Difference was we took the scraps. GWS chose not to with Hately. So the Karma post was just trolling rubbish
Wasn't aware his father was ill. Bit unfortunate. You should seriously train everyone to block space for him and park him as a loose 7th defender. Should crank his value and mitigate some losing margins at the same timeI don't actually begrudge McAsey heading home with his father being as ill as he is. I'd like to think the club and McAsey's manager can work together to help facilitate the move. I like to think a late 1st or early 2nd is about where the value sits - no chance it is any higher unless he plays out his skin this year which with his old man being unwell may play on him and not allow him to see his best footy
If his mind is legitimately elsewhere, then I think it will be a case of playing out time and I am thinking the reason the crows took Murray just recently was in part to mitigate against McAsey's eventual loss - ie get a key defender (Murray) in who they can work with all yearWasn't aware his father was ill. Bit unfortunate. You should seriously train everyone to block space for him and park him as a loose 7th defender. Should crank his value and mitigate some losing margins at the same time
Talia.
but your point isn't lost.
They have bled a lot of talent.
No bad blood at all between the clubs themselves, just a few Crows fans made arses of themselves being so adamant that Crouch was a band #1 compo and that the Crows were certainties to get pick #2.I Am sure there is some bad blood between The Crows and Saints after The Crouch fiasco.
If I am Adelaide I would simply refuse to even discuss negotiations with St Kilda as a matter of principal.
In an ideal world, Collingwood and Hawthorn should be interested, they seem like much fairer and reasonable to deal with than say The Bulldogs or St Kilda (of late)
Tough situation for Adelaide if these reports are true. Hasn't set the world on fire but not many year 1 KPP's do.
On a wider level I am not sure that "just draft South Australians" is the best strategy to adopt. Might be better to look at the club and the way players are treated and work out why so many players want to leave, then fix that.
Pick 40 in the last draft was just dressing nothing up as something so you can pretend you're trading in good faith. Did it even get used? If it did was it on a player that they definitely couldn't have taken as a rookie? They exploited a loophole that shouldn't exist. It just really, really irks me.
Yeah I'm not sure what has happened to him but on his gws performances, breaking into their midfield for a number of games and being not bad when there that's picks fairly insulting. Virtually none of names selected where that pick would have been had any actual form to show, they're basically rookie picks from about pick 35 in that draft. In a good draft a pick 40 would probably be better than nothing but in that draft a pick in the 20s would have been around the mark.Hately isn't even tracking to make the round 1 team that finished bottom last year and is on track for a repeat performance. What pick should have we given up?