Gary Ablett Jr vs Dane Swan

[mufassa]

I dont like the way stats are used to try and define a players game or players standing in the game. As for the Thomas v Ablett aguement how can anyone realistically judge. One player kicks the ball long into a forward line where Cloke outmarks his opponent and goals. The other looks up and sees Cambell Brown standing next to Ben Reid and Shaw.

How do you rate Swan then?

For me he is in the best 5 mids in the AFL - yes behind Ablett who is the clear number 1 but Swan is a superstar.

 

[The Finger]

How do you rate Swan then?

For me he is in the best 5 mids in the AFL - yes behind Ablett who is the clear number 1 but Swan is a superstar.

Obviously a very good player theres a few mid fielders Id prefer going into a final though.

 

[mufassa]

Obviously a very good player theres a few mid fielders Id prefer going into a final though.

Pendles is the only other mid that I would class as better. For me any other mid is either equal too or not as good.

 

[Chism]

Jonbe and The Finger can take it to P.M and leave the crap out of threads please.

No more warnings for personal off topic rubbish.

 

[The Finger]

Pendles is the only other mid that I would class as better. For me any other mid is either equal too or not as good.

Dont agree especially going into a final. The Pendlebry part yes but not the rest.

 

[mufassa]

Dont agree especially going into a final. The Pendlebry part yes but not the rest.

What is wrong with Swan and finals?? - his 43 touches V WCE last year followed up 32 V the Hawks was incredible. Or the 39 touches V the Dogs in 2010 followed by 33 V the Cats.

He can smash finals as good as any mid. I want him in my starting midfield in a final.

 

[The Finger]

What is wrong with Swan and finals?? - his 43 touches V WCE last year followed up 32 V the Hawks was incredible. Or the 39 touches V the Dogs in 2010 followed by 33 V the Cats.

He can smash finals as good as any mid. I want him in my starting midfield in a final.

Theres a few Id prefer before him stats dont show the whole story especially in a final.

 

[mufassa]

Theres a few Id prefer before him stats dont show the whole story especially in a final.

Fair enough - I think your hatred of Collingwood is clouding your judgement - unless by a few you mean 2 - Ablett and Pendles.............

 

[Pie in the Sky]

Theres a few Id prefer before him stats dont show the whole story especially in a final.

He was probably BOG in all of those games, admittedly his grand finals weren't so good though.

 

[The Finger]

Fair enough - I think your hatred of Collingwood is clouding your judgement - unless by a few you mean 2 - Ablett and Pendles.............

Id comfortably have ..... Selwood, Judd, Kerr, Hayes, Ablett, Hodge,Pendlbry,Bartal, and perhaps Thompson and Kennedy.

 

[Dwight Schrute]

Id comfortably have ..... Selwood, Judd, Kerr, Hayes, Ablett, Hodge,Pendlbry,Bartal, and perhaps Thompson and Kennedy.

Lol at everyone there bar Ablett, Pendles and possibly Kennedy or Selwood.

 

[bennyw16]

Watching Swan last week, live, it was noticeable how hard he ran when Collingwood were in possession, he really busts his nut to get from one contest to the next, which is why he picks up some many linked possessions.

Turning around and going the other way, well he did a lot of pointing.

There was one particular run where chased his own kicks from the back flanks and ended up having a shot on goal, which is put out of the full.

After that effort he hunched over for a good 15 seconds taking in some oxygen and didn't work back the other way, his man ran up the field to create overlap, there was a turnover and Swan found himself in about 50 metres of space.

I'd often wondered how he got free so often, revealed alot.

 

[The Finger]

Lol at everyone there bar Ablett, Pendles and possibly Kennedy or Selwood.

Thats fine like I said. Theres no cheap kicks in finals.

 

[Dwight Schrute]

Thats fine like I said. Theres no cheap kicks in finals.

Did you watch the preliminary final last year?
Anyway this post will be bumped later tonight.

 

[burto]

Lol at everyone there bar Ablett, Pendles and possibly Kennedy or Selwood.

lol at Hayes and Bartel? You mean the norm smith medalists Hayes and Bartel?

 

[Dwight Schrute]

lol at Hayes and Bartel? You mean the norm smith medalists Hayes and Bartel?

Swan is so much better than them its not funny. Hayes to a lesser extent, thats a stupid argument really.
Yes I'm talking about Dane Swan... the Brownlow medalist with a record amount of votes, the three time best and fairest winner, one in a premiership team, AFLCA player of the year.

 

[The Finger]

Swan is so much better than them its not funny. Hayes to a lesser extent, thats a stupid argument really.
Yes I'm talking about Dane Swan... the Brownlow medalist with a record amount of votes, the three time best and fairest winner, one in a premiership team, AFLCA player of the year.

And where talking about finals. Hayes Bartel>>>>>Swan for finals

 

[Dwight Schrute]

And where talking about finals. Hayes Bartel>>>>>Swan for finals

I still know who I would take into a GF.

 

[AM]

Ablett
Pendlebury
Mitchell



Swan

 

[FedEx]

Ablett, but not by as much as some people think. They are similar players with Swan being more dangerous around goal and more explosive but Ablett being a better user of the ball

 

[The Finger]

I still know who I would take into a GF.

Thats your opinion.

 

[The Finger]

Did you watch the preliminary final last year?
Anyway this post will be bumped later tonight.

Swans numbers and influence well down tonight plus his opponent was clearly BOG.

 

[Hodge is God]

Is this meant to be a contest?
Ablett by a country mile.

 

[Dwight Schrute]

Swans numbers and influence well down tonight plus his opponent was clearly BOG.

Just a lazy 29 disposals, 7 tackles, 11 clearances and 2 goal assists.

 

[The Finger]

Just a lazy 29 disposals, 7 tackles, 11 clearances and 2 goal assists.

No influence on the game. His opponent was again BOG.