Preview Geelong. Grand Final. You know when. You know where.

[mpal6]

The tone of Geelong’s equivalent thread on their board is so different to our thread. A good day to be a Lions supporter.

They've won both finals well so the confidence on their forum is a given.

Tagging Rayner was left field and we were not ready for that one. Same with McCluggage, he'll have a point to prove against this mob. With Charlie buzzing and not bothered about goals, I feel a lot more confident taking them on.

We know what they'll throw at us and have time to prepare - will be a good game.

 

[Sproj]

Playing sick Lions in a QF who were just a bit off compared to a GF title defending Lions with a point to prove are two entirely different beasts.

 

[martinson]

After a couple of nights to sleep on it and trying to take all of the emotion out of it I'm getting a little more realistic.

For Lachie to go from out for the season with a calf strain( tear ?) to playing within a week is just a bit much to swallow. On top of the quad that he really wasn't over when he last played 10 days ago. Huge risk imo , if he plays trusting they know a lot more than what we've been presented with.

I know Oscar has to probably play because of the romance and emotion of it all but is he the right fit against this Geelong lineup ? Or can we go smaller ?

A couple of things I've been pondering.

 

[mpal6]

After a couple of nights to sleep on it and trying to take all of the emotion out of it I'm getting a little more realistic.

For Lachie to go from out for the season with a calf strain( tear ?) to playing within a week is just a bit much to swallow. On top of the quad that he really wasn't over when he last played 10 days ago. Huge risk imo , if he plays trusting they know a lot more than what we've been presented with.

I know Oscar has to probably play because of the romance and emotion of it all but is he the right fit against this Geelong lineup ? Or can we go smaller ?

A couple of things I've been pondering.

With Gallop showing signs I'll absolutely put Oscar on the goal square. He'll bring it to ground as a minimum and let our smalls do the work. Oscar will also be a good change up to Fort, he can literally take possession and handball it forcefully out of congestion giving us better chances outside. Oscar is a wild card for us and can test Geelong a fair bit.

Neale - we have to wait n see.

 

[Darren Downunder]

Thanks BB, I don't watch much of the Cats, I think he did tag Jai Newcombe in the Prelim though or were my eyes playing up again?

Despite the QF result I still think if we bring our best against their best we win.

It also seems to be forgotten that we beat them convincingly at the Cattery not all that long ago.

Missing from our team that day:
Answerth, Berry, Hipwood, Day, McLachlan, Neale (I’m assuming neither of those boys will get up)
Replaced by:
Gallop, Gardiner, Oscar, Reville, Marshall and someone.
My bet is we’ll go for finals/Grandfinal experience. Either McKenna or Robertson

 

[M Malice]

After a couple of nights to sleep on it and trying to take all of the emotion out of it I'm getting a little more realistic.

For Lachie to go from out for the season with a calf strain( tear ?) to playing within a week is just a bit much to swallow. On top of the quad that he really wasn't over when he last played 10 days ago. Huge risk imo , if he plays trusting they know a lot more than what we've been presented with.

I know Oscar has to probably play because of the romance and emotion of it all but is he the right fit against this Geelong lineup ? Or can we go smaller ?

A couple of things I've been pondering.

Even though the club and Lachie seem confident I'm with you martin, too much risk, Lachie has hardly played the last 2 months, the Cats would exploit him somehow IMO. Berry also not worth the risk, same shoulder popped twice in a matter of weeks, the Cats will be bumping into it at every opportunity to test it out.

Pretty straight forward, trust in Bruce Reville doing the job for Berry and bring in one of McKenna/Tunstill as the sub.

Nigel Lappin was different, as they say you don't run on your ribs, calves and quads are pretty essential.

 

[SurreyBlue]

Just win - please. Do it for all outside of Geelong. I beg you.

 

[Squizz89]

With Gallop showing signs I'll absolutely put Oscar on the goal square. He'll bring it to ground as a minimum and let our smalls do the work. Oscar will also be a good change up to Fort, he can literally take possession and handball it forcefully out of congestion giving us better chances outside. Oscar is a wild card for us and can test Geelong a fair bit.

Neale - we have to wait n see.

That was another big thing from the qualifying final. Not only did they stifle our ball movement and take away some key contributors, but we also didn't help ourselves with how poor our pressure was, especially defensively in the F50. The smalls need to be switched on and be willing to work just as hard defensively, as they are offensively. If we allow them to transition out of there so easily again, they have to much run & class on the outside for us to defend that.

 

[BrisVegasDru]

struggling to concentrate at work this morning, trying to be meticulous and check my work, but derailed by thoughts of Cam running straight through Danger wishful thinking ...

 

[3KZ is Football]

Let's ask the high priest of Lesterism what should be done.

@3KZ give us your wisdom.

I am currently cogitating with the Footy Gods. Wisdom to follow.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Cam and Hughie will be tagged again you would think. I think Hughie will be ok but Cam will need some help - Gallop to crash a pack and take out a tagger or two.

Going to be important for the other mids to really stand up

 

[MSB ROYS]

That was another big thing from the qualifying final. Not only did they stifle our ball movement and take away some key contributors, but we also didn't help ourselves with how poor our pressure was, especially defensively in the F50. The smalls need to be switched on and be willing to work just as hard defensively, as they are offensively. If we allow them to transition out of there so easily again, they have to much run & class on the outside for us to defend that.

Going to tough for sure but every "must win" game this year, we have delivered. Geelong have a good balance of defence and offence, which we will need to disrupt. Bottom line is we can't let their mids get of the chain like last game and our forwards need to deliver like against the Pies and Suns.

 

[Nuggo]

If Berry plays would he be better suited to tagging with that shoulder?

EDIT - his shoulder would get more attention. Could be a sub option?

What's with ads that pop up instead of the keyboard when typing on a mobile. Most annoying ad tactic yet.

 

[Nathan Barley]

With Gallop showing signs I'll absolutely put Oscar on the goal square. He'll bring it to ground as a minimum and let our smalls do the work. Oscar will also be a good change up to Fort, he can literally take possession and handball it forcefully out of congestion giving us better chances outside. Oscar is a wild card for us and can test Geelong a fair bit.

Neale - we have to wait n see.

I think what we did better on the weekend then in the Suns game was not to kick it to Oscar. Against the Suns we went to him way too often in a 2 on 2 and then once the ball got to ground it was a 2 on 1 and they ran it out.

Unless it’s a slow play and there’s a big pack, Oscar needs to try and drag his opponent away from the contest

Or maybe Oscar can actually take a bloody mark

At centre clearances I think we will need more clearances from Oscar and Fort than last time. Blicavs plays as an extra mid and we saw them dominate the centre clearances against the Hawks and beat us comfortably. Oscar and Fort just need to clear the congestion to even numbers either through the spike or taking it out of the ruck and getting it forward

 

[M Malice]

If Berry plays would he be better suited to tagging with that shoulder?

What's with ads that pop up instead of the keyboard when typing on a mobile. Most annoying ad tactic yet.

I don't think a lot of tackling would be good for that dodgy shoulder.

 

[Nathan Barley]

If Berry plays would he be better suited to tagging with that shoulder?

EDIT - his shoulder would get more attention. Could be a sub option?

What's with ads that pop up instead of the keyboard when typing on a mobile. Most annoying ad tactic yet.

If he plays he probably won’t have much feeling in that arm. So whatever position is best suited to playing with 1 arm

 

[3KZ is Football]

While 3KZ is Football cogitates, the cards suggest this is the team to select.

FB: Lester, Gardiner, Starcevich
HB: Wilmot, Andrews, Fletcher
C: Reville, McCluggage, Marshall
HF: Cameron, Gallop, Bailey
FF: Rayner, Morris, Ah Chee
Foll: Fort, W.Ashcroft, Dunkley
Int: McInerney, Lohmann, L. Ashcroft, Zorko

Sub: Tunstill

This team will win.

If Lachie Neale

9

Lachie Neale

Age

32

Ht

177cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

27.0

5star

K

11.5

4star

HB

15.5

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

3.7

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

28.3

5star

K

13.9

5star

HB

14.4

5star

M

4.6

4star

T

4.0

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

12.0

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

7.4

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

1.0

3star

CL

0.4

3star

is passed as fit and Fagan and the Match Committee believe there is no risk in playing him, based on training and the advice from medical staff, this is the side that the cards suggest.

FB: Lester, Gardiner, Starcevich
HB: Wilmot, Andrews, Fletcher
C: Reville, McCluggage, L. Ashcroft
HF: Cameron, Gallop, Bailey
FF: Rayner, Morris, Ah Chee
Foll: Fort, W.Ashcroft, Dunkley
Int: McInerney, Lohmann, Neale, Zorko

Sub: Marshall

This side will also win.

 

[3KZ is Football]

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While 3KZ is Football cogitates, the cards suggest this is the team to select.

FB: Lester, Gardiner, Starcevich
HB: Wilmot, Andrews, Fletcher
C: Reville, McCluggage, Marshall
HF: Cameron, Gallop, Bailey
FF: Rayner, Morris, Ah Chee
Foll: Fort, W.Ashcroft, Dunkley
Int: McInerney, Lohmann, L. Ashcroft, Zorko

Sub: Tunstill

This team will win.

If Lachie Neale is passed as fit and Fagan and the Match Committee believe there is no risk in playing him, based on training and the advice from medical staff, this is the side that the cards suggest.

FB: Lester, Gardiner, Starcevich
HB: Wilmot, Andrews, Fletcher
C: Reville, McCluggage, L. Ashcroft
HF: Cameron, Gallop, Bailey
FF: Rayner, Morris, Ah Chee
Foll: Fort, W.Ashcroft, Dunkley
Int: McInerney, Lohmann, Neale, Zorko

Sub: Marshall

This side will also win.

A sage and righteous post. I have been communing with the Footy Gods and they decree that either of those teams would be blessed.

The Footy Gods decree that people should gamble responsibly, but if you put all the cash you can muster on Brisbane to win at $2.67, the chances are you’re not about to lose.

 

[Lets Roar like '44]

Neale couldn’t walk last year leading up to the GF. The only difference is no one knew this until after the game. If he told people 5 days out from the GF he can’t walk, people would say don’t play, and then he goes on to almost win the Norm Smith.
I think he will play, and if he gets injured so be it, that’s what the sub is for.

 

[DERRINALPHIL]

I have just received something from Ticketek. It has six tickets on it but no bar codes are there. I would like to print the tickets out but cannot do so. What is happening to others?

 

[M Malice]

If he plays he probably won’t have much feeling in that arm. So whatever position is best suited to playing with 1 arm

We need to get Dr Richard Kimble on the job.

 

[McIvor]

After a couple of nights to sleep on it and trying to take all of the emotion out of it I'm getting a little more realistic.

For Lachie to go from out for the season with a calf strain( tear ?) to playing within a week is just a bit much to swallow. On top of the quad that he really wasn't over when he last played 10 days ago. Huge risk imo , if he plays trusting they know a lot more than what we've been presented with.

I know Oscar has to probably play because of the romance and emotion of it all but is he the right fit against this Geelong lineup ? Or can we go smaller ?

A couple of things I've been pondering.

I feel that our undoing will be loyalty to guys like Lachie and Oscar.

I love Oscar and what he's done for our team and his infectious nature, but his fitness and ability is already concerning me. I guess what is the alternative, Sam Day, or go smaller? I'd go smaller and play McKenna, but I don't see the club having the guts to make such a call given Oscar's narrative, which isn't undeserved. Its a tough one.

As for Lachie, look I get why he wants to play, but to me he's putting himself ahead of the team for the reasons you mentioned and how little he has played in the past 6 weeks, all because he understandably doesn't want to miss out.

Not many are corageous like the Simon Prestiagicomo's of the world and rule themselves out when the coach admitted he would have played him but for the player putting the club ahead of himself.

 

[3KZ is Football]

If he plays he probably won’t have much feeling in that arm. So whatever position is best suited to playing with 1 arm

That’s it in a nutshell. As sad as it is, Berry is no chance. Oscar wrote the script for him last year and Berry should follow it. He should be working with the younger player and less experienced players, especially Marshall and Reville, helping them to prepare and being a positive force in the group.

 

[3KZ is Football]

We need to get Dr Richard Kimble on the job.

Twin Peaks

The One-Armed Man

 

[Darren Downunder]

That’s it in a nutshell. As sad as it is, Berry is no chance. Oscar wrote the script for him last year and Berry should follow it. He should be working with the younger player and less experienced players, especially Marshall and Reville, helping them to prepare and being a positive force in the group.

This!
Both Lachie and Jarrod know what they have to do.
Model themselves on Oscar and be an inspiration to the team.
I suspect all the Lachie talk is just a smokescreen.
Fagan playing 3D chess