Geelong rorting the system

[RPCB]

None. Because it didn’t happen.

Ah, you’re right. I somehow remembered thought your previous flag was in the 50s.

Edit: You should have just kept your original post. A lot more sensible and mature than what you edited it to.

 

[PhatBoy]

Ah, you’re right. I somehow remembered thought your previous flag was in the 50s.

Edit: You should have just kept your original post. A lot more sensible and mature than what you edited it to.

Sorry I couldn’t resist

 

[RPCB]

Sorry I couldn’t resist

You really should have.

 

[catstorm]

3 average picks.
In a complex deal, the Cats sent picks No.13, 15 and 20 and a future fourth-round selection to the Giants in exchange for Cameron, the Giants' future second-round selection and a future second-round selection tied to Essendon from the earlier Jye Caldwell deal.

Tell me again what did you guys give up for Tom Lynch?

 

[PhatBoy]

Tell me again what did you guys give up for Tom Lynch?

He won’t say, for some reason.

He keeps talking about sides giving up very little for something very good in these bizarre rants…. Which I assume reference Tom Lynch going to Richmond, and North Melbourne doing a straight swap between pick 27 for pick 3

 

[PenfoldsFan]

Is it time we bring in measures, outside those that arrnt working, to bring Geelong back to the pack?
Their finals and top 4/Prelim/GF appearances have made a mockery of the equalisation measures that are supposed to see teams cycle up and down the ladder.

The AFL gave Sydney COLA to get them going, should Geelong have their salary cap cut significantly to slow them down like a racehorse carries weight?

This should be something the Carltons, Essendons, Bulldogs, Norths etc. Should also be asking for as its becoming clear that the big Vic clubs are starting to canibalise those struggling clubs to a greater extent since the Interstate clubs are managing retention better.

 

[Ausbenito]

Its their draw that has been well and truly exposed this season with top 8 positions so tight this has allowed them an armchair ride into the top 4 playing the weaker clubs at home and bigger clubs at MCG is a win win situation for Geelong unfortunately for everyone else.
Just got to hope that once Dangerfield and friends go they will be bad enough that the bias fixturing cant save them.

 

[Mr Meow]

Its their draw that has been well and truly exposed this season with top 8 positions so tight this has allowed them an armchair ride into the top 4 playing the weaker clubs at home and bigger clubs at MCG is a win win situation for Geelong unfortunately for everyone else.
Just got to hope that once Dangerfield and friends go they will be bad enough that the bias fixturing cant save them.

Beating every team in the comp besides GWS and Carlton has certainly helped too.

 

[PhatBoy]

Its their draw that has been well and truly exposed this season with top 8 positions so tight this has allowed them an armchair ride into the top 4 playing the weaker clubs at home and bigger clubs at MCG is a win win situation for Geelong unfortunately for everyone else.
Just got to hope that once Dangerfield and friends go they will be bad enough that the bias fixturing cant save them.

Yeah playing the bigger clubs on their home ground, and playing Brisbane and Adelaide and GWS interstate has certainly proven to be a lucky aspect of the draw for us. You’re right and this is a well thought out post.

 

[Romeoh1]

I just want an even playing field.

Sure you do.

 

[kreuze_missile]

We get taxed enough merely by sharing a comp with you guys. Occupying a whole place in the premiership during an era where it’s supposed to be impossible to fail for 30 years yet you guys have done it, while taking 40 players out of the player pool that could be shared among the other clubs.

We could run dead last every single year and we would still continue far more to the AFL financially than Geelong ever will.

If the AFL truly was a level playing field there’s no way Geelong would have won a single AFL era premiership.

The most circumstantial success in history.

 

[Xtreme]

I blame Geelong for there being no AFL footy finals on a Sunday!

 

[Ausbenito]

Yeah playing the bigger clubs on their home ground, and playing Brisbane and Adelaide and GWS interstate has certainly proven to be a lucky aspect of the draw for us. You’re right and this is a well thought out post.

Everyone plays interstate clubs at home sorry not everyone but most clubs nothing special there.
Having a close look at the draw Geelong draw is much easier than the other MCG based Melbourne clubs you could argue Marvel should be a similar advantage to GMHBA.
There is starting to be a reason exposed that the long run of outs of Melbourne, Carlton is not all by bad management but the draw does them no favors Richmond and Hawthorn have so far got around this somewhat all be it with other advantages they get separately.
Maybe think outside the box see how this plays out study the draw next season and pencil in your guaranteed 8 wins before the season starts. Carlton and Melbourne cant do this.
The draw is becoming a major issue even which teams have to play who ie Dockers or Eagles at certain interstate venues and others don't

 

[VinnieB]

Everyone plays interstate clubs at home sorry not everyone but most clubs nothing special there.
Having a close look at the draw Geelong draw is much easier than the other MCG based Melbourne clubs you could argue Marvel should be a similar advantage to GMHBA.
There is starting to be a reason exposed that the long run of outs of Melbourne, Carlton is not all by bad management but the draw does them no favors Richmond and Hawthorn have so far got around this somewhat all be it with other advantages they get separately.
Maybe think outside the box see how this plays out study the draw next season and pencil in your guaranteed 8 wins before the season starts. Carlton and Melbourne cant do this.
The draw is becoming a major issue even which teams have to play who ie Dockers or Eagles at certain interstate venues and others don't

Carlton?? Their fixture has them playing the worst 3 teams in the game 5x each of the past 2 years (2x against WCE).
They played the worst 3 teams in the first 11 games of the season.
They get an armchair ride, and still are rubbish.

Their own players have woken up to the fact they are a broken club.

 

[PhatBoy]

Everyone plays interstate clubs at home sorry not everyone but most clubs nothing special there.
Having a close look at the draw Geelong draw is much easier than the other MCG based Melbourne clubs you could argue Marvel should be a similar advantage to GMHBA.
There is starting to be a reason exposed that the long run of outs of Melbourne, Carlton is not all by bad management but the draw does them no favors Richmond and Hawthorn have so far got around this somewhat all be it with other advantages they get separately.
Maybe think outside the box see how this plays out study the draw next season and pencil in your guaranteed 8 wins before the season starts. Carlton and Melbourne cant do this.
The draw is becoming a major issue even which teams have to play who ie Dockers or Eagles at certain interstate venues and others don't

What guaranteed 8 wins? The ones we get by being the best travelled team in the comp. No problem.

 

[Chip Scab1]

I would never defend Adelaide for what happened with Tippett, but not declaring a Balfours promotion worth $40k was just as minor, didn't even breach the salary cap.

What I don't understand is how one is a two year draft ban the other is small potatoes.

LOL you know the reason.

Gifted the world since 1994. Including, but certainly not limited to the Prelim of that year.

I hate them, but they absolutely warrant my (and all others) respect for how they've turned that club around since 1996 really.

Bloody good effort, they've gone from a boutique endeavour to the absolute pointy end of the competition by repeatedly making correct decisions.

Bailey Smith and Jeremy Cameron are driving them towards another shot at glory, ****ing win and piss off, get out the way.

 

[PhatBoy]

We could run dead last every single year and we would still continue far more to the AFL financially than Geelong ever will.

If the AFL truly was a level playing field there’s no way Geelong would have won a single AFL era premiership.

The most circumstantial success in history.

Yeah we would have. But you wouldn’t have. We won 2007 without Hawkins, the one father-son that we got cheaper than we should have. Which was totally legal at the time anyway and completely within the rules of the day.

But you haven’t won shit aside from 1995, when you were paying players outside the cap hand over fist. And with Silvagni. Also under the original father son rule.

 

[STPer18]

Great ump bashing post mate. Maybe try being an umpire for 5 mins.

The footage they showed last night was even worse. Rayner was sooking to the umpire and pleading with him, before the now infamous Raynor Flop™. The esteemed David King was ropeable, thought Rayner was intimidating the umpire into doing as he pleaded. A bit to play out here I think.

I hope we're using our pull to protect the umpires from third-rate players like Rayner getting well-beaten and intimidating umpires on the field to give them a chop out. This kind of behaviour can't go on.

 

[TheCattery2007]

This Geelong rorting the system stuff makes me laugh.

Cats can pay players less because they don’t live in the capital city (advantage of their location), some other teams have a similar advantage.

The Cats stick to a very strict salary payment model. Very few exceptions, and usually only to bring a player in from another club and with by in from senior leadership.

Cats offer golf, surfing and relaxed coast lifestyle (and success). Farms have been a recent thing. How many number 1 or 2 draft picks or father sons do the Cats currently have? Giants had 5 former 1 or 2 draft picks on Saturday - for them to miss is shocking.

 

[Elixuh]

This Geelong rotting the system stuff makes me laugh.

Cats can pay players less because they don’t live in the capital city (advantage of their location), some other teams have a similar advantage.

The Cats stick to a very strict salary payment model. Very few exceptions, and usually only to bring a player in from another club and with by in from senior leadership.

Cats offer golf, surfing and relaxed coast lifestyle (and success). Farms have been a recent thing. How many number 1 or 2 draft picks or father sons do the Cats currently have? Giants had 5 former 1 or 2 draft picks on Saturday - for them to miss is shocking.

At least this fellow is admitting it

 

[Mr Meow]

This Geelong rotting the system stuff makes me laugh.

Cats can pay players less because they don’t live in the capital city (advantage of their location), some other teams have a similar advantage.

The Cats stick to a very strict salary payment model. Very few exceptions, and usually only to bring a player in from another club and with by in from senior leadership.

Cats offer golf, surfing and relaxed coast lifestyle (and success). Farms have been a recent thing. How many number 1 or 2 draft picks or father sons do the Cats currently have? Giants had 5 former 1 or 2 draft picks on Saturday - for them to miss is shocking.

The Northern teams have only ever managed to be successful (or competitive) with a silver platter of top picks, academy rorts and other luxuries. They have certainly under delivered relative to their leg ups, with Matthews' Lions doing a hell of a lot of heavy lifting there.

 

[TheCattery2007]

At least this fellow is admitting it

I’m not admitting anything. It merely taking advantage of circumstances, that’s not rorting. Geelong also lost players who wanted the cbd and big club lifestyle - Francis Evans is one that springs to mind.

 

[RPCB]

I’m not admitting anything. It merely taking advantage of circumstances, that’s not rorting. Geelong also lost players who wanted the cbd and big club lifestyle - Francis Evans is one that springs to mind.

If say Geelong are a bigger club than Port Adelaide?

 

[Mr Meow]

If say Geelong are a bigger club than Port Adelaide?

Geelong is a small town between farmland and the sea. Adelaide is a capital city. Evans is on record as saying he prefers capital city living.

 

[Munich]

I don't know about who played twice or whatnot but Geelong had the 5th easiest draw by the end of the year.

Can't help it if other teams didn't stand up.