Generation Y

[HolyWars]

But, Gen Y (my gen) deserves everything they cop.

 

[Smell The Glove]

You're a friggin tosser. Every generation of youth has been like this.

This thread has turned from "Gen Y" to "Old man is better than young man".

Give it a rest pops.

How many 23 year old grandparents do you know?

Typical though. Gen Y is far too sheltered and pampered to be able to absorb even the slightest bit of critisism, which is another major problem. Kids these days just dont have any parental supervision or discipline. Hence, the weakest and most useless generation yet.

And it was in response to distinctly labelling manners as a positive of our generation (which it clearly isnt)

 

[Smell The Glove]

While I agree with you, the same can be said for every generation. When I was in retail, I had 3 older dumb *****, trying to speak over the top of eachother while asking me questions on where things where and such. Without thinking and not being able to handle the garbage spewing from thier mouths I replied with a "Just, one at a time *****", luckily, the middle aged wenches didn't pick that last word up.

Manners shouldn't be gauged by generations, it's City v Country. City....everyone here is a rude prick and no one has time for anyone, go back to the country, and everyone says hi even though you dont know them. I really do miss that about home.

While I disagree with the first part, as someone who is country born and (partially) raised, I totally agree with the second part.

 

[HolyWars]

While I disagree with the first part, as someone who is country born and (partially) raised, I totally agree with the second part.

Thats my main point

 

[Scotland]

Gen Y are soft, don't want to work hard, expect everything in life straight away, overrate their own importance... Etc. Etc.

I am a 'gen y' (1980 is the cut off for 'gen x' i believe), and I believe some or all of the above definitely applies to a very high percentage of people in 'my' generation.

There are 2 things that shit me about the blanket 'generation' bashing that gen y cops. The first is that most of those traits above apply to all members of society. I know just as many incompetent 40 and 55 year olds who can't take criticism, overrate the importance, etc. as I do 22 year olds. Why should a weak as piss 40 year old be treated any differently to a weak as piss 22 year old?

The second is the hypocrisy of members of the earlier generations. E.g. 'Gen x are irresponsible, i didn't have a $400,000 loan when I was 25, and I saved up a 20% deposit before I bought a house'. I agree that a lot of younger people don't understand debt, and many borrow above their means and buy things they don't need, however lets not pretend the landscape is the same as it was in days gone by. Save up a 20% for a house? Sure, that's $50-60k minimum for a shitbox house in a shit outlying suburb. Renting? Have a family? Forget it.

I would love to see the number of homes owned by the baby boomer generation, and the average rental income earned vs the average purchase price. A fair portion of boomers are wealthy because they bought houses when prices were dirt cheap and population density meant supply was plentiful. The boom which 'gen y thought would never end' has pushed prices and rents sky high, and the boomers are laughing all the way to the bank and passing judgement on gen y for trying to get a start whilst taking their cash to fund their retirement.

 

[Toshowyouwhy]

You can't bad mouth an entire generation using the same criticisms. Traits that ********s at my school might exhibit, I feel, I don't exhibit at all, and I know many other people that completely contradict some of the arguments being made. It's a person to person thing, not a generation to generation.

 

[Eagle87]

You can't bad mouth an entire generation using the same criticisms. Traits that ********s at my school might exhibit, I feel, I don't exhibit at all, and I know many other people that completely contradict some of the arguments being made. It's a person to person thing, not a generation to generation.

Correct.

Although it is a statistical fact that kids right now are substantially fatter and less healthy than kids 20 years ago. By extension people make statements such as "the current generation of children are unhealthy fatties" - its of course a generalisation, based on fact but not applicable to all kids.

Clearly any general view of Gen Y won't apply to all Gen Y'ers but there are some recurring themes based on observation and based on reports/research that suggest certain general charachteristics.

As an employer, Gen Y'ers are a MUCH different group to manage, for example, than even 10 years ago and certainly 20.... obviously not all are different from their predecessors but generally quite different.

 

[Call Me Cake]

How many 23 year old grandparents do you know?

Typical though. Gen Y is far too sheltered and pampered to be able to absorb even the slightest bit of critisism, which is another major problem. Kids these days just dont have any parental supervision or discipline. Hence, the weakest and most useless generation yet.

And it was in response to distinctly labelling manners as a positive of our generation (which it clearly isnt)

You're a Gen-Y'er, idiot.

 

[scooterb]

You're a Gen-Y'er, idiot.

So? He can still criticize his own generation.

He even clearly said that he was a Gen-Y'er as well, idiot.

 

[Call Me Cake]

So? He can still criticize his own generation.

He even clearly said that he was a Gen-Y'er as well, idiot.

Fair enough mate, but his generalization is beyond stupid.

I'm sure he thinks he's an exception to his criticism, but he ain't the only one. Therefore, who's to say most Gen-Y'ers aren't an exception too?

He's got no halo above his head, the same goes for all youth from all generations. Youth in the 80's we're no less rebel like than the youth today.

This thread isn't even about Generation Y & it's future anymore. It's turned into an argument over youth & their antics.

 

[Eagle87]

Fair enough mate, but his generalization is beyond stupid.

I'm sure he thinks he's an exception to his criticism, but he ain't the only one. Therefore, who's to say most Gen-Y'ers aren't an exception too?

He's got no halo above his head, the same goes for all youth from all generations. Youth in the 80's we're no less rebel like than the youth today.

This thread isn't even about Generation Y & it's future anymore. It's turned into an argument over youth & their antics.

You havent exactly covered yourself in glory in this thread but thankfully, you seem non-indicative of Gen Y in that you appear quite stupid.

On the bolded bit, you honestly see Gen Y as "rebels"? Seriously?

The complete like of real rebellion, of wanting to overturn the establishment or really change anything at all is actually quite disheartening. If bad manners (which is what you were responding to) is the extent of rebellion in your mind then God help all of us.

Where are the Gen Y icons? Where is the defiance? Smugness and a sense of entitlement arent exactly inspiring.

 

[Rosstickle]

Fair enough mate, but his generalization is beyond stupid.

I'm sure he thinks he's an exception to his criticism, but he ain't the only one. Therefore, who's to say most Gen-Y'ers aren't an exception too?

He's got no halo above his head, the same goes for all youth from all generations. Youth in the 80's we're no less rebel like than the youth today.

This thread isn't even about Generation Y & it's future anymore. It's turned into an argument over youth & their antics.

It's a thread about Gen Y (who happen to be the youth) and their antics. I'd say it's all relevant.

 

[The Kipster]

Y suits them perfectly...Y should I do it, Y don't you all piss-off I know heaps more...

 

[Lileasy]

Y suits them perfectly...Y should I do it, Y don't you all piss-off I know heaps more...

Well you have already proved me wrong i never knew you knew anything.

 

[sabre_ac]

Bad- Party drugs

I think most people would be geniunely shocked at the real proportions of generation Y that have.

1. Ever used "party drugs"
2. Use them recreationally (Few times a year)
3. Regular users (At least 1-2 times a month)

Its quite alarming and concerning when you think about the potential long term side effects.

(I am part of generation Y)

 

[Damon_3388]

I think most people would be geniunely shocked at the real proportions of generation Y that have.

1. Ever used "party drugs"
2. Use them recreationally (Few times a year)
3. Regular users (At least 1-2 times a month)

Its quite alarming and concerning when you think about the potential long term side effects.

(I am part of generation Y)

Sometimes I actually feel like I'm in a very small minority, because I'm a Gen Y-er who isn't into 'party drugs' and has never even tried them.

 

[Fevola#25]

Y suits them perfectly...Y should I do it, Y don't you all piss-off I know heaps more...

Y did you post this

 

[Fevola#25]

Why here I think i've found a big ol' bowl of sweeping generalisations
mmm that was tasty. Does anyone have any more of these generalisations?
or does it occur to anybody that punk rock and goth are what influenced and effectively created emo? It seems to me the same complaints are made with every generation and regurgitated just in different forms ever since the industrial revolution technology has advanced and the next generation are always so much different because of these advances. Show me how Gen Y are lazy, because they live at home longer now than previous generations somehow i dont think it is Generation Y's fault that the Australian housing prices are so high (and have sustained a financial crisis and remain high due to low supply) that some will never be able to own their own house.

Even so don't blame us for the way we were raised the world we grew up in was created by those before us. How about those generation Z'ers aren't they a terrible bunch.

 

[Call Me Cake]

It's a thread about Gen Y (who happen to be the youth) and their antics. I'd say it's all relevant.

Exactly.

So what else do you expect?

To be honest, Gen-Y needs it's chance to hit middle age as well.

I remember my father telling me (who is a Gen-X'er by the way) all of his youthful stories while living in the US. He would go out & steal with his mates, cause trouble. Smoke pot with friends because it was "big" back then. No doubt LSD was too, but he didn't try those. He got hooked on smokes at the age of 15. Sure he had a job for a long time, but that was because he dropped out of school, so he had nothing else anyway. He remembers all of these little niches, all dieing one by one, as a forerunner to another.

Does this sound familiar?

Of course it does. Because if you want to go to extremes, youth are no different to how they've always been throughout each generation. Society however, is.

These days, you can't just drop out of school whenever you want & land a chance somewhere incredible & build up from there. Nope. Today you need lots of schooling to get to where you really want to go. Finding jobs without qualifications is tough, staying in school is tougher. The fees you have these days are a serious mindf***, and don't get me started on finding a new place to move out.

Of course society has also changed for the better, there is no doubt Gen-Y'ers are more aware of the side effects from smoking, (no, this doesn't mean Gen-X'ers didnt have a clue) and are more likely to turn a ciggie down.

One of my other points is, all of these cults, and niches you see these days are nothing more than a carbon copy of what you see in previous generations. The emo culture, for example is nothing but a reincarnation of the now dead Punk. The extacy popping raving culture you are probbaly familiar with, is the product of the LSD experimental era, ect;

This stuff has been happening long ago, and for this reason they are ignored. When talking of a generation, youth haven't even posessed an identity yet. There is no identity. The rise of tehnology hasn't helped this however, such as the internet itself. Millions & millions, if not billions of people, especially youth, broadcast their lives & ideals on the internet through word & video, so it becomes more "widespread".

As soon as a new piece of technology is released, it is overused by the youth, because it is something new to them, and the fact that it may be the "in" thing hooks them up. Teenage girls in the 80's who we're lucky enough to recieve a mobile phone of their own, would use it all the time. The first gaming culture was written in stone during the 80's.

I remember my mom telling me how cool "partially ripped jeans" were back in the day & how Baby Boomers "never understood it".

Of course, these youths have turned out for the best in the end, hopefully. So why rag on Gen-Y?

The "Y" in Gen-Y doesn't stand for "youth" people.

 

[The Kipster]

Y did you post this

Y? because of the 'Y' generation....I am sure parents of that generation are saying "y the **** did we do that'

 

[Papa G]

No teenage girls had mobile phones in the 1980's.

Ecstacy popping was started and perfected by Gen X in the late 1980's early to mid 1990's when the best Dance music existed. Surely Gen Y have their own drugs by now?

 

[Hoops]

cons - hairstyle, music, faux american accents, unwarrented confidence, vanity, selfishness, judgemental, pouting and flexing for photo's, trousers that are too large,

pros - sorry I'm stuck

 

[Lileasy]

cons - hairstyle, music, faux american accents, unwarrented confidence, vanity, selfishness, judgemental, pouting and flexing for photo's, trousers that are too large,

pros - sorry I'm stuck

Cmon Hoops, that is a pro. I happen to think that we have had the best style of hair out of the BB and Gen X and the great Gen Y

 

[vealesy]

Cmon Hoops, that is a pro. I happen to think that we have had the best style of hair out of the BB and Gen X and the great Gen Y

That right there is whats wrong with you muppets.

 

[Lileasy]

That right there is whats wrong with you muppets.

Well played.