Roast Getting fed up with the commentating

[Piestration]

Kane Cornes is a Total Flog.

Think it was 2002 when he Gave us the Middle Finger after a Close Win for them

 

[Aishole]

If it's true that we're an incredibly divisive football club that have over the years drawn the ire of generations of ex players and coaches (the entire population of a commentary team). Your statement could be applied by anyone making the argument that commentators are in-fact biased towards Collingwood with a fair degree of certainty .

I understand the logic. But this commentary bias thing just isn’t true at all. The game on the weekend they spent a fair chunk of time raving about Collingwoods. People pick one incident and it rules their thinking.

Thats what i meant by that statement. That one incident (howe v Fog) could have individual viewpoints that come across differently in comparison to another incident later in the game. Meaning yes, one specific moment may seem bias. But later on, another view on another decision.
Edit: thats hard to explain... I mean people will pick one instance and view it in isolation. Rather than a culmination of individual comments/non comments. Which if there was a true bias being displayed, there would be a large culmination

May there be some bias? Maybe. But to suggest our games are jam packed with Anti-Collingwood Drivel is just flat out wrong. Dunstall may hate Collingwood, and he may choose to not comment on a couple things because of it, but geez i’ve also heard him rave about Collingwood. People need to get a grip. This is a playing group that gained so much respect and media love last year. To suggest some form of considerable bias is laughable in my eyes

Our games are no different to others. Commentators blatantly commentate in favour of teams all the time. Its not just Collingwood, as people seem to like to pretend it is

 

[5_Flockhart]

I understand the logic. But this commentary bias thing just isn’t true at all. The game on the weekend they spent a fair chunk of time raving about Collingwoods. People pick one incident and it rules their thinking.

Thats what i meant by that statement. That one incident (howe v Fog) could have individual viewpoints that come across differently in comparison to another incident later in the game. Meaning yes, one specific moment may seem bias. But later on, another view on another decision.
Edit: thats hard to explain... I mean people will pick one instance and view it in isolation. Rather than a culmination of individual comments/non comments. Which if there was a true bias being displayed, there would be a large culmination

May there be some bias? Maybe. But to suggest our games are jam packed with Anti-Collingwood Drivel is just flat out wrong. Dunstall may hate Collingwood, and he may choose to not comment on a couple things because of it, but geez i’ve also heard him rave about Collingwood. People need to get a grip. This is a playing group that gained so much respect and media love last year. To suggest some form of considerable bias is laughable in my eyes

Our games are no different to others. Commentators blatantly commentate in favour of teams all the time. Its not just Collingwood, as people seem to like to pretend it is

I understand your logic, but it draws you to a specious claim.

It is popular, accepted and often encouraged to show disdain towards Collingwood. The disdain seeps into people personal lives and by extension the workplace.

To say the bias is even (and I know you aren't saying this) would be an equally absurd statement to make. So if you could say that some teams get treated poorer than others, I think it's safe to say that if any team got treated poorer than the rest, there is a lot of reason to think that team would be Collingwood

EDIT: Sorry I missed your comment about Dunstall. Commentators showing praise here and there is completely necessary in covering your bias. Just like serial killers don't murder everyone that walks past them, you still have to blend in

 

[PepperFace]

I'm not a nuffie either, but I don't enjoy watching via Fox generally speaking, especially when I can't see who is doing what. It's one thing to show the game unfolding in a realistic way; seven does this. They show the mark in closeup, not after the event. They then switch to the wide shot. Fox, until now, has shown a wide shot and as the ball looked like being marked, for instance, they left it on wide, mark is taken, then they would switch to a useless closeup. Too late she cried.

There's absolutely no reason, except for laziness, for giving us the Fox Extreme Wide Shot. That is, play is on the outer wing, player has ball in hand looking to dispose, we can't really tell who it is, especially if it is not a Collingwood player, the commentators are busily talking about their past exploits instead of calling the play, (happens too often with in-jokes thrown in to further alienate the viewers), and we get a view from the outer wing, across the centre and across towards the camera side. No player on the outer side is ever going to kick it 80 metres to the inner side. He's going down the line, or he's going to centre it. That's it. We need a camera angle through to the centre. Anyway, Fox finally saw the error of its ways on Saturday and it was excellent.

I also noticed some interesting new camera shots from high up behind the goals; I suspect all of this means they are experimenting for the upcoming finals series. I'm going to call fox today and congratulate them. God knows, they've had my negative ones for years.

Just to clear it up....i wasnt implying you were a nuffie....that was directed at the TV producers.
I understand what you were saying about the close up marks can be shown etc. But i get frustrated when camera angles keep chopping and changing during general play. I seriously get sea sick and i always feel channel 7 are most guilty for this. And dont get me started on their camera at ground level following a player running with the ball. I nearly throw up every time

 

[PepperFace]

I feel for and GCS supporter trying to watch their game against the Hawks yesterday. The commentating was unbearably biased towards the Hawks.

Yeah i feel sorry for those 2 guys too

 

[FireKrakouer]

I understand the logic. But this commentary bias thing just isn’t true at all. The game on the weekend they spent a fair chunk of time raving about Collingwoods. People pick one incident and it rules their thinking.

Thats what i meant by that statement. That one incident (howe v Fog) could have individual viewpoints that come across differently in comparison to another incident later in the game. Meaning yes, one specific moment may seem bias. But later on, another view on another decision.
Edit: thats hard to explain... I mean people will pick one instance and view it in isolation. Rather than a culmination of individual comments/non comments. Which if there was a true bias being displayed, there would be a large culmination

May there be some bias? Maybe. But to suggest our games are jam packed with Anti-Collingwood Drivel is just flat out wrong. Dunstall may hate Collingwood, and he may choose to not comment on a couple things because of it, but geez i’ve also heard him rave about Collingwood. People need to get a grip. This is a playing group that gained so much respect and media love last year. To suggest some form of considerable bias is laughable in my eyes

Our games are no different to others. Commentators blatantly commentate in favour of teams all the time. Its not just Collingwood, as people seem to like to pretend it is

I understand where you're coming from, and every team seems to think the commentators, umpires etc are biased against their team specifically. But when it comes to Dunstall in particular, the criticisms are valid from pies fans.

He has stated numerous times over the years, including at a Christmas function I personally attended, that he "hates Collingwood with a passion".

Sometimes he sets this hate aside and provides some reasonable comments. But he also pulls BS like suggesting Howe should be suspended. Another incident off the top of my head was him going hysterical over a free kick provided to Jesse White in one of our games, and continuing to whinge about it in the media over the following week, when it was an obvious free that the umpires department came out and explained to him.

Posters here may exaggerate the bias, but Collingwood do tend to be the most despised team by the general public (outside of those of us who are fans).

 

[wicksy]

Huddo.... Every game!!! His constant umpiring against us.

 

[Aishole]

I understand where you're coming from, and every team seems to think the commentators, umpires etc are biased against their team specifically. But when it comes to Dunstall in particular, the criticisms are valid from pies fans.

He has stated numerous times over the years, including at a Christmas function I personally attended, that he "hates Collingwood with a passion".

Sometimes he sets this hate aside and provides some reasonable comments. But he also pulls BS like suggesting Howe should be suspended. Another incident off the top of my head was him going hysterical over a free kick provided to Jesse White in one of our games, and continuing to whinge about it in the media over the following week, when it was an obvious free that the umpires department came out and explained to him.

Posters here may exaggerate the bias, but Collingwood do tend to be the most despised team by the general public (outside of those of us who are fans).

Yeah i understand and agree he may carry on like that occasionally. But he is one of sometimes 7 commentators on a night.

What i have an issue with, is people carrying on like the commentary is filled with purely anti-collingwood drivel. Wake up people

 

[Baltimore Jack]

Yeah i understand and agree he may carry on like that occasionally. But he is one of sometimes 7 commentators on a night.

What i have an issue with, is people carrying on like the commentary is filled with purely anti-collingwood drivel. Wake up people

How many games do you watch each week?

Over the course of a week I tend to watch 6 or 7

I don't hear the obvious anti-Collingwood bias in our games in relation to similar bias in other non-Collingwood games
I like to think I have the ability to recognise the difference

 

[Finnishpie]

As a lover of this game like all of us are I would like to watch a game where the commentators do exactly that...commentate.
The bias against our club by commentators is getting really tiresome. It's unprofessional.
Can the AFL please set some standards so that I can watch my team play without having to listen to commentators blatantly support the opposition.
I want to hear the game being called. I don't want to feel like I am sitting in the middle of the opposition cheer squad.

Commentators are hired hacks whose aim is to appeal to the lowest common denominator -- and that means all sorts of things, including baracking for whoever is losing.

 

[Aishole]

How many games do you watch each week?

Over the course of a week I tend to watch 6 or 7

I don't hear the obvious anti-Collingwood bias in our games in relation to similar bias in other non-Collingwood games
I like to think I have the ability to recognise the difference

It depends, if i am busy over the weekend maybe only 2, but if i’ve got a weekend free at home, closer to around 6.

Its because it doesn’t exist. The commentary is bad across the board.

If anyone has watched Carlton the last 10 weeks, whenever they put together any extended period of good football, it is a pure and utter Jizz fest.

Best believe if we played them tomorrow some people around here would be kicking and screaming about anti collingwood bias... completely ignoring thats its been a weekly thing. Barracking for the underdog is human nature. Carlton have been bad for so long, i don’t blame them.

There may be commentators that hate us, but there is not 120 minutes of bias against us. Thats just a fact.

 

[Aishole]

As a lover of this game like all of us are I would like to watch a game where the commentators do exactly that...commentate.
The bias against our club by commentators is getting really tiresome. It's unprofessional.
Can the AFL please set some standards so that I can watch my team play without having to listen to commentators blatantly support the opposition.
I want to hear the game being called. I don't want to feel like I am sitting in the middle of the opposition cheer squad.

Its not about Collingwood mate. Every week the commentators barrack for the underdog.

Collingwood aren’t that special. It is not exclusively a ‘Collingwood Problem’. Its stuck in your head that it is, and now its ruining your viewing experience, which is sad and unfortunate. Because its really not.

 

[Johno9911]

Not quite commentating, but media related.

People jumped up and down about Buck's having a chat with Lynch last year, however nothing more than a raise of the eyebrow about Clarko contacting Conglio?

Arguably the Coniglio scenario should be looked on even less favorably, as he is at a club still in the process of competing in 2019, whereas the Suns season was done in 2018.

 

[Pie eyed]

Why does ch7 need up to 7 commentator s on Friday nights.Richie Benaud s theory was less talk is better

“Illicit laughter”. You make it sound like a spin-off of Fifty Shades where the protagonists tie each other up and tell knock-knock jokes.

Who's there?
Taris.
Taris Balzoff

 

[Seedsman_]

I enjoy their disappointment when we win.

 

[Black_White]

Is this what you’re talking about?

 

[Quicky]

Are there any current commentators people actually like? Which TV/Radio stations have the best commentary team?

 

[Black_White]

Peter Booth.

Great Collingwood man. Great ABC radio VFL/AFL caller
2:12:30 he tells Tim Lane he can’t call the last 2 minutes, such is his emotion at a Grand Final Pie victory.
Listen to the whole 2 hours plus.
You don’t need actual vision because these guys called the action as : who has the ball : where is the ball : who is winning the ball.
Simple commentary that puts you AT THE GAME.

 

[whiteside35]

Peter Booth.

Great Collingwood man. Great ABC radio VFL/AFL caller
2:12:30 he tells Tim Lane he can’t call the last 2 minutes, such is his emotion at a Grand Final Pie victory.
Listen to the whole 2 hours plus.
You don’t need actual vision because these guys called the action as : who has the ball : where is the ball : who is winning the ball.
Simple commentary that puts you AT THE GAME.

listened to a little bit of it,still brings a tear to the eye.

 

[lvandinter]

On my way to Drums hotel to watch the game was listening to the Carlton game and one of the callers mistook Silvagni for Kruezer.

Fortunately, I didn't hear the game as sound was low and rather enjoyed the telecast.

I have been listening to the cricket on ABC at night and it is so good. You know where every fielder is, the type of ball bowled and no bias from either English or Australian commentators. There are even gaps of silence as the bowler bowls. No need to fill in silence with rubbish stats.

I have actually found that I have almost perfected the zoning out the commentators watching at home.

Just have the coverage from ch 9 and mute it and then put abc radio on, music to my ears!

 

[76woodenspooners]

Jon Ralph getting Collingwood mixed up with Carlton at 1:30 <shakes head>

Lyon sacked due to fan anger | Fox Sports Videos

AFL: Fan anger at Fremantle's recent results played a roll in the sacking of Ross Lyon as head coach.

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[Prestigerrycomo]

I understand where you're coming from, and every team seems to think the commentators, umpires etc are biased against their team specifically. But when it comes to Dunstall in particular, the criticisms are valid from pies fans.

He has stated numerous times over the years, including at a Christmas function I personally attended, that he "hates Collingwood with a passion".

Sometimes he sets this hate aside and provides some reasonable comments. But he also pulls BS like suggesting Howe should be suspended. Another incident off the top of my head was him going hysterical over a free kick provided to Jesse White in one of our games, and continuing to whinge about it in the media over the following week, when it was an obvious free that the umpires department came out and explained to him.

Posters here may exaggerate the bias, but Collingwood do tend to be the most despised team by the general public (outside of those of us who are fans).

He’s entitled to hate us, but that should mean he shouldn’t commentate our games, much like Eddie stands aside for our games so should he

 

[Prestigerrycomo]

Huddo.... Every game!!! His constant umpiring against us.

Agreed

Never got my head around the love for Huddo

Guy is an absolute farknuckle

 

[TradeDraft]

Jon Ralph getting Collingwood mixed up with Carlton at 1:30 <shakes head>

Lyon sacked due to fan anger | Fox Sports Videos

AFL: Fan anger at Fremantle's recent results played a roll in the sacking of Ross Lyon as head coach.

www.foxsports.com.au

What a Knob he is

 

[Baird]

Agreed

Never got my head around the love for Huddo

Guy is an absolute farknuckle

Screaming fool. He is absolutely insufferable.