Rumour GFC 2020 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists

[Max Milburn]

They should fold gold coast, and have gws’s playing list merged with us to become the geelong giant cats.

Oooh, yes please!

 

[Turbocat]

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Oooh, yes please!

goodie goodie num num

 

[Turbocat]

What would be the minimum players for team squads that would be realistic across a 20+ round season?

One thing I read yesterday is that up to 150 players could be cut from lists at the end of the season because it's expected there'll be reduced list numbers going forward and to allow for some fresh faces to each club

The quickest cut would most likely be the rookie list and cap team lists at 38 - senior lists have been allowed to be between 38-40 with rookie lists between 4-6 players. Losing just 6 players per club is 108 players across the league who will be gone.

With the draft the rules have been a minimum of 3 picks, but I wouldn't be surprised to see that scrapped with instead of a minimum of 2 picks this year - and that's another 36-54 players gone if some teams take 3 picks

Its not only numbers its dollars..I can remember when lists were over 50 , there seemed no limit to them , anyone in the 2nds could play firsts... so its not purely numbers its what players are paid.

One might make a case for a few different outcomes. 16 a side for example. 32 on the list who knows. The will know what they have to do till the know the damage. If they have to take a 500M line of credit.. they will have to create a method to pay that off over the next 10 years yet create product for the media that gives max revenue. I think it the middle their that will suffer. Clubs will find a way to keep their most valuable and they will want to keep the best kids.

One can look thru the Geelong list and I suspect we could name 5 to 10 players that would be in cross hairs IF all contracts get ripped up. The average player payment atm is close to 400G ... that has to drop back into the 200's. The top players now will struggle with pay well short of 1M

 

[Max Milburn]

Its not only numbers its dollars..I can remember when lists were over 50 , there seemed no limit to them , anyone in the 2nds could play firsts... so its not purely numbers its what players are paid.

One might make a case for a few different outcomes. 16 a side for example. 32 on the list who knows. The will know what they have to do till the know the damage. If they have to take a 500M line of credit.. they will have to create a method to pay that off over the next 10 years yet create product for the media that gives max revenue. I think it the middle their that will suffer. Clubs will find a way to keep their most valuable and they will want to keep the best kids.

One can look thru the Geelong list and I suspect we could name 5 to 10 players that would be in cross hairs IF all contracts get ripped up. The average player payment atm is close to 400G ... that has to drop back into the 200's. The top players now will struggle with pay well short of 1M

I think you are right, there will be changes coming at the end of all this.
Some may even be good.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

IF GC fold, do we still get pick 11 or whatever the equivalent would be?

I'm expecting that if we do have a draft at the end of the year that it's going to look a lot different to what we're used to

Keep pick 11 and pick up the kid they took as DFA

 

[TheMenz Gallery]

I wouldn’t be surprised if there is no draft and next year becomes an under 19 comp. Giving this years and next years 18 yr old a whole year to impress.
It wouldn’t be fair on the current new recruits to be cut before they have at the very least played in the vfl to show what they can do.

 

[Larry Donohue]

Its not only numbers its dollars..I can remember when lists were over 50 , there seemed no limit to them , anyone in the 2nds could play firsts... so its not purely numbers its what players are paid.

One might make a case for a few different outcomes. 16 a side for example. 32 on the list who knows. The will know what they have to do till the know the damage. If they have to take a 500M line of credit.. they will have to create a method to pay that off over the next 10 years yet create product for the media that gives max revenue. I think it the middle their that will suffer. Clubs will find a way to keep their most valuable and they will want to keep the best kids.

One can look thru the Geelong list and I suspect we could name 5 to 10 players that would be in cross hairs IF all contracts get ripped up. The average player payment atm is close to 400G ... that has to drop back into the 200's. The top players now will struggle with pay well short of 1M

Can I pick who is in the cross hairs

 

[Biggy_Boy]

How about they roll up GWS and GC, and the draft at the end of this year is for the players on those clubs' lists.

 

[CatRiot]

I doubt the AFL will fold clubs.

Don't worry the RBA will save the Australians. Just our currency might blow up in the process. Nevertheless, we will still have a positive trade balance as our AUD dwindles and our net wealth comparable to the world drops. But that's just the cycles.

The end game to Capitalism is when the RBA starts buying Equities. Then its game over, almost Socialism by that stage. BoJ has proven they can't sell their Equities on the markets.

 

[catman2006]

what would be interesting if they cut list sizes

 

[CatToTheFuture]

I wouldn’t be surprised if there is no draft and next year becomes an under 19 comp. Giving this years and next years 18 yr old a whole year to impress.
It wouldn’t be fair on the current new recruits to be cut before they have at the very least played in the vfl to show what they can do.

Hold the 2020 draft order for the 2020-21 super draft? Wouldn't say no to having 3 picks in the top 20 where those picks are the equiv of top 10

 

[CatToTheFuture]

what would be interesting if they cut list sizes

By how many would be the interesting part. If you drop the list numbers by a handful probably doesn't help us, but if you cut by 10 then we'd be in a position to look at say, the 35th best GWS player and whether they fit our best 34

 

[TheMenz Gallery]

Hold the 2020 draft order for the 2020-21 super draft? Wouldn't say no to having 3 picks in the top 20 where those picks are the equiv of top 10

Looks like Mick Turner is a fan of the U19 for next year.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Looks like Mick Turner is a fan of the U19 for next year.

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3 first rounders in a super draft? Death riding a WCE outfit missing NicNat and Kennedy at a minimum? Yes please

 

[The rabbi]

Don't shoot me! I just posted it.

 

[rocker_oz33]

Can we please Lockie Ash aswell.

Bit greedy I know.

 

[foxdog50]

Don't shoot me! I just posted it.

Did you listen to the podcast and hear what they discussed? As I am interested..

 

[CatRiot]

Don't shoot me! I just posted it.

Straight swap for Zuthrie, or Sam Simpson or J Jenkins?

Oh what the heck, let's be generous and give all three.

 

[Turbocat]

Don't shoot me! I just posted it.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

no doubt we need cameron and will offer him big $ but I doubt he leaves gws.

 

[Turbocat]

no doubt we need cameron and will offer him big $ but I doubt he leaves gws.

Pure...No Doubt? It only seemed like yesterday that I thought this thing might be like SARS , and now I have a heap of doubts on everything.

List sizes... if they reduce them how many good players will be looking for a place. Scap. probably gets reduced real to list sizes. and what happens from here do we go hard at the draft. Will there be a draft? What happens with our R1 picks. Do the NGA players stay aligned (Probably this group) but what happens with NGA long term ( I think its cooked). AFLW? 500,000 pa for something that delivers a lot but not much money.

Cameron? Id not be looking at anyone like that for the moment till we have ourselves have a health check. How many players do we have not contracted that we want to keep ..so how many will we have to cut that are contracted?


I think you are right, Cameron would be crazy atm to leave GWS but unless AFL take a particular approach ..they will lose players like everyone.

Doubts?

I have not been really hot for Cameron anyway, I think he is too short term. As a FA id was prepared to go with it but now ..I think we need to be prepared to ensure the viability of the club. Forget flags for the moment. Any new contracts have to take into account of a contracting business model. For the first time in years players may have to get used to deflation

 

[Biggy_Boy]

Don't shoot me! I just posted it.

What problems? The no money problem? I don't think a very expensive acquisition would help with that.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

What problems? The no money problem? I don't think a very expensive acquisition would help with that.

He would also be OOC at the Giants and they'd be looking to shed cap. He might find that he's offered half what he would have been offered last year by all parties

 

[Turbocat]

Risky but if he is over his head issues... should we at least consider him. Cost would be zero so risk would be low to at least dip our toe?

McCartin ready to go and open to AFL lifeline anywhere

“If it’s the Saints or somebody else, I just want to play again.”

www.sen.com.au

 

[Turbocat]

I heard Pickeing talking about players taking 10% of their current contracts this morning...but I have to wonder if you are OOC... just what sort of contract your would be offered.

What would Hawkins be worth to sign ?