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CUT OUT THE PERSONAL ATTACKS

We not always going to agree with each other, but that's no reason for personal abuse directed at other posters nor a reason to bait/continue to push ones buttons

Time to get back to discussing the upcoming draft & delisted free agency options
 
geelong_crazy26 said:
how long was he at xavier for?? want to be careful to not pluck someone who has been that long out of the system... but then again, clarkson came from an APS school teaching background and that went alright..
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I’m pretty sure he was coaching the old xaverians team in the vafa not the school team in the APS.
 

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Lana said:
A full review of the football department the club has decided that the post drugs saga era of Essendon is exactly where we need look to take us to the next level.
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Kelly and Egan hardly fill me with confidence. One’s coaching ammo’s and ppl at Ess I’ve heard were neither here nor there on them as coaches. Seems like we are battling to fill the roles at this late stage.

Hope Lyon and Solomon pull through.
 
Strange Cat said:
Does he have any coaching experience ? Nice of him to come back to the club
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Has been a development coach. Kelly, Betts, Egan all development coaches. They're stacking the ranks with coaching types who are good for young inexperienced players. More swing from challenge to support
 
OzeSparky said:
www.theage.com.au

Former Cat Matthew Egan in line for coaching role at Geelong

Geelong are looking at former Cat Matthew Egan to join their coaching line-up as the club revamps their panel ahead of the 2022 season.
www.theage.com.au www.theage.com.au
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I don't have anything beyond vague memories of posts from years ago, but I thought he sued (or had tried to sue) the club for what happened to his foot?

(And may have had a decent case.)

Would've thought there'd be bad blood - especially from his side - about the Cats, so find this a little surprising... but I could be way off.
 

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I'll be disappointed if the club brings Lyon in. Opinions of his coaching aside (and I think he was very good generally but very boring), I don't like the idea of bringing someone in with his reputation around women from Freo.

Egan feels like a hard one to judge. If he can teach SDK and our other young backs some tricks then that'll be nice, but it's hard to tell how good development coaches are from the outside. I'm generally happy to have the bloke back around the club because he was a great player that had a long career stolen with that foot injury.
 
CategoryCRookie said:
I'll be disappointed if the club brings Lyon in. Opinions of his coaching aside (and I think he was very good generally but very boring), I don't like the idea of bringing someone in with his reputation around women from Freo.

Egan feels like a hard one to judge. If he can teach SDK and our other young backs some tricks then that'll be nice, but it's hard to tell how good development coaches are from the outside. I'm generally happy to have the bloke back around the club because he was a great player that had a long career stolen with that foot injury.
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I agree with Lyon's style of coaching, its a bit boring and defensive. However, on the other component, that's not relevant, Bomber Thompson was banging a player's partner (Kent Kingsley's), and he still got us multiple flags. Rohan was hooking up with another Cats staff member whilst with his partner, so these things happen from time to time. I think Lyon is still married. I think we need an experienced coach, to challenge Chris Scott, and make him more accountable. So far we only have young assistants coming in. I would've preferred Choco Williams, but it would be impossible to get him from Melbourne at the moment.
 
CatRiot said:
I agree with Lyon's style of coaching, its a bit boring and defensive. However, on the other component, that's not relevant, Bomber Thompson was banging a player's partner (Kent Kingsley's), and he still got us multiple flags. Rohan was hooking up with another Cats staff member whilst with his partner, so these things happen from time to time. I think Lyon is still married. I think we need an experienced coach, to challenge Chris Scott, and make him more accountable. So far we only have young assistants coming in. I would've preferred Choco Williams, but it would be impossible to get him from Melbourne at the moment.
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I don't think bringing in an experienced coach is a bad idea, but I fundamentally disagree with it being Lyon from an ethics standpoint. I know the other stuff has happened, but Lyon was a man that allegedly made women at Freo uncomfortable with how he spoke to and treated them. Bringing that into the club with that knowledge is unfair on the people already at the club and just plain morally wrong to me.
 
CategoryCRookie said:
I'll be disappointed if the club brings Lyon in. Opinions of his coaching aside (and I think he was very good generally but very boring), I don't like the idea of bringing someone in with his reputation around women from Freo.

Egan feels like a hard one to judge. If he can teach SDK and our other young backs some tricks then that'll be nice, but it's hard to tell how good development coaches are from the outside. I'm generally happy to have the bloke back around the club because he was a great player that had a long career stolen with that foot injury.
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On Egan, there must still still be plenty of people around the club who know how good he was (or wasn't) when he spent a couple of years as an assistant coach at Geelong before moving to Essendon.

On the question of Lyon as an experienced coach "challenging" Scott, the thing is that he, like 99% of experienced coaches, would take one in depth look at our list, and adopt the same, or virtually the same, game plan as the current coaching group because it's the most efficient use of the abilities of the current list; any changes would merely be tinkering at the edges.
 
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Kelly and Egan hardly fill me with confidence. One’s coaching ammo’s and ppl at Ess I’ve heard were neither here nor there on them as coaches. Seems like we are battling to fill the roles at this late stage.

Hope Lyon and Solomon pull through.
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They were (and possibly still are) best mates. Egan got a chance in the VFL through Kelly if I recall correctly.
 
Partridge said:
They were (and possibly still are) best mates. Egan got a chance in the VFL through Kelly if I recall correctly.
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Was Kelly's old man that told Wellsy to have a look at Egan if my greycells remember correctly
 

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CatRiot said:
I agree with Lyon's style of coaching, its a bit boring and defensive. However, on the other component, that's not relevant, Bomber Thompson was banging a player's partner (Kent Kingsley's), and he still got us multiple flags. Rohan was hooking up with another Cats staff member whilst with his partner, so these things happen from time to time. I think Lyon is still married. I think we need an experienced coach, to challenge Chris Scott, and make him more accountable. So far we only have young assistants coming in. I would've preferred Choco Williams, but it would be impossible to get him from Melbourne at the moment.
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It’s different having blokes like that do these things when they’re already at your club, versus bringing someone in with that reputation.
 
Grimoz said:
In all fairness to Lyon he did make 3 grand finals all off his own bat (that's 2 more than Scott) and was hardly embarrassed in any of them. Guy might be a dick sometimes but he sure knows football, not the worst guy to have on your side.
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Scott has made 2 GF and has a flag. Their records are comparable and when you do it Scott is so clearly superior it's not funny. You know the premiership and all that :rolleyes:
 
People calling for 63+ Choco Williams but others calling guys who are early 50s bygone relics even though they have coached 3 GFs since 2010 and understand the game of football like very few. People that get the best out of groups of men 🤦‍♂️

No offence but there is a fair difference btw some 30 year old development coach to a man who has that level of experience. If people (me included) want changes to the game style then you need ppl that understand football, where we are and where we need to be, have experience in teaching change, and the respect of our current playing group.
 
Grimoz said:
In all fairness to Lyon he did make 3 grand finals all off his own bat (that's 2 more than Scott) and was hardly embarrassed in any of them. Guy might be a dick sometimes but he sure knows football, not the worst guy to have on your side.
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Hardly embarrassed? They lost by 10 goals in 2010..
 
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