Rumour GFC 2021 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists... Part II

[Strange Cat]

When was the last time anyone successfully guessed what Wells would pick in the draft?

 

[Mad_Hatter]

When was the last time anyone successfully guessed what Wells would pick in the draft?

1997, and even then it was whether he wanted coke or water to drink..

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Next year is apparently the year for talls, so I suspect - given Wells' comments - that we'll be heavily mid focused this year, with a KPD like Alleer on the radar too

I think we may take a kpd as we will be very thin in that area if blitz gets injured but our other picks should all be mids or outside runners and focus on talls next year as its a better talls draft then imo.

 

[Strange Cat]

I think we may take a kpd as we will be very thin in that area if blitz gets injured but our other picks should all be mids or outside runners and focus on talls next year as its a better talls draft then imo.

I just feel that Wells will take what’s best on offer , you’d hope he keeps his word about focussing on needs only but we all know it’s folly trying to predict what he will do

 

[Turbocat]

My quick effort without taking any oppo clubs needs into account:

Pick 1 North Melbourne - Jason Horne-Francis
Pick 2 Collingwood - Nick Daicos
Pick 3 Western Bulldogs - Sam Darcy
Pick 4 GWS Giants - Finn Callaghan
Pick 5 Gold Coast - Neil Erasmus
Pick 6 Adelaide - Josh Ward
Pick 7 Hawthorn - Josh Gibcus
Pick 8 Fremantle - Ben Hobbs
Pick 9 Richmond - Mac Andrew
Pick 10 Fremantle - Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
Pick 11 St Kilda - Leek Alleer
Pick 12 West Coast - Jye Amiss
Pick 13 Essendon - Josh Sinn
Pick 14 Port Adelaide - Matthew Johnson
Pick 15 GWS Giants - Arlo Draper
Pick 16 Brisbane - Mitch Knevitt
Pick 17 Richmond - Zac Taylor
Pick 18 Sydney - Josh Rachele
Pick 19 Melbourne - Tyler Sonsie
Pick 20 Brisbane - Matt Roberts
Pick 21 Fremantle - Josh Goater
Pick 22 North Melbourne - Darcy Wilmot
Pick 23 Hawthorn - Jacob van Rooyen
Pick 24 Geelong - Campbell Chesser
Pick 25 Hawthorn - Sam Butler
Pick 26 Carlton - Jesse Motlop
Pick 27 Richmond - Tom Brown
Pick 28 Richmond - Blake Howes
Pick 29 Richmond - Brady Hough
Pick 30 West Coast - Jack Williams
Pick 31 Geelong - Ned Long
Pick 32 Sydney - Josh Fahey
Pick 33 Geelong - Connor MacDonald
Pick 34 Adelaide - Mitchito Owens
Pick 35 Geelong - Joshua Browne
Pick 36 West - Rhett Bazzo
Pick 37 Melbourne - Cooper Beecken
Pick 38 Sydney - Cooper Murley
Pick 39 Brisbane - Jase Burgoyne
Pick 40 North Melbourne - Lewis Rayson

Has anyone done a comparison of Constable to Roberts. I have a feeling he will slip thru to us. 2k time etc

 

[Vdubs]

Like him, but don't think I can take any more injured 'sliders.' Generally if they slide, they slide for a reason. Injury seems to be the worst reason, and one that has continually screwed us every time we've picked one

Joel Selwood
Trav Varcoe

 

[Turbocat]

I think we may take a kpd as we will be very thin in that area if blitz gets injured but our other picks should all be mids or outside runners and focus on talls next year as its a better talls draft then imo.

Id like to know just how flexible is Tsap? Could he be a def option? Id not startled to see us try hims there in the vFL, we did it with Neale.

 

[BORIS332]

Has anyone done a comparison of Constable to Roberts. I have a feeling he will slip thru to us. 2k time etc

Roberts came 2nd at the SA combine for the 2km. I can’t see him sliding. Would love him to, though.

 

[Turbocat]

Like him, but don't think I can take any more injured 'sliders.' Generally if they slide, they slide for a reason. Injury seems to be the worst reason, and one that has continually screwed us every time we've picked one

Id reckon every year this late pick bargain thing comes up. Pretty sure it was said about Tarheny.

 

[BORIS332]

His kicking is a non issue. Technically sound just a rung down from elite and better than many currently in the hoops. If cats pass on him they will regret it

Knevitt’s kicking is far from technically sound. Ball drop starts at his nose.

 

[Turbocat]

Roberts came 2nd at the SA combine for the 2km. I can’t see him sliding. Would love him to, though.

We all have own likes and dislikes ..and I guess id pick others before him but a good 2k does at least say he is probably worth consideration.

 

[BORIS332]

Id reckon every year this late pick bargain thing comes up. Pretty sure it was said about Tarheny.

In KM’s first rankings that year, Taheny was in the mix for pick 1. I’d love to know what went wrong.

 

[BORIS332]

We all have own likes and dislikes ..and I guess id pick others before him but a good 2k does at least say he is probably worth consideration.

What don’t you like about him? His U18 SANFL numbers were as dominant as it gets, played 11 league games too. Absolutely elite kick.

 

[Turbocat]

I just feel that Wells will take what’s best on offer , you’d hope he keeps his word about focussing on needs only but we all know it’s folly trying to predict what he will do

I have read this a couple of times... why would the club forecast what type they are interested in?

 

[Turbocat]

What don’t you like about him? His U18 SANFL numbers were as dominant as it gets, played 11 league games too. Absolutely elite kick.

Like all the players , I have seem limited amounts.. I don't see the kicking you are mentioning. Do you have a link.

 

[Shadow89]

Joel Selwood
Trav Varcoe

Yep...and in the 12 years since that 4 year period...?

For posterity, these are our first round picks since 2009:

2010 - Pick 15 Smedts - Fail

2012 - Pick 16 Thurlow - Fail

2013 - Pick 16 Lang - Fail

2014 - Pick 10 Cockatoo - Fail

2018 - Pick 15 Clark - Pass (can play, just didn't get the best out of him)

2019 - Pick 16 Stephens - Remains to be seen, but has been perennially injured and things aren't looking good thus far

2019 - Pick 19 SDK - Remains to be seen, but things look good thus far and is developing well - will probably end up being a 'Pass'

2020 - Pick 20 Max Holmes - From what I've seen thus far, looks like a gun and will be a 'Pass'

Things seem to have gone better in the last 3-4 years, and that seems to be because we're taking best available rather than someone who we took on projection rather than ability. Thurlow looked very good before he broke his leg, but Smedts, Lang and Cockatoo were definitely fails.

Not to mention guys like Fogarty and Constable in 2017 who we took at 22 and 36, who we saw as 'sliders' and took them...now they're both off our list just 4 years later. As Turbocat mentioned, Taheny is another who falls into this category, but wasn't as painful as we traded up two late picks to get him. Still a bust though.

 

[Turbocat]

Joel Selwood
Trav Varcoe

Taking a loooooooong bow there dubs... what did Joel slip from... Maybe 2 to 7.... A fit Joel might have been one ...but Hawkins and others , id not be sure of that.

 

[Shadow89]

Id reckon every year this late pick bargain thing comes up. Pretty sure it was said about Tarheny.

Was said about Rantall too - both delisted this year

 

[Turbocat]

In KM’s first rankings that year, Taheny was in the mix for pick 1. I’d love to know what went wrong.

Little man upstairs?

 

[BORIS332]

Like all the players , I have seem limited amounts.. I don't see the kicking you are mentioning. Do you have a link.

 

[Turbocat]

What don’t you like about him? His U18 SANFL numbers were as dominant as it gets, played 11 league games too. Absolutely elite kick.

Just to confirm ..its this kid you are talking about..? Maybe Im looking at different kid.

 

[BORIS332]

Yep...and in the 12 years since that 4 year period...?

For posterity, these are our first round picks since 2009:

2010 - Pick 15 Smedts - Fail

2012 - Pick 16 Thurlow - Fail

2013 - Pick 16 Lang - Fail

2014 - Pick 10 Cockatoo - Fail

2018 - Pick 15 Clark - Pass (can play, just didn't get the best out of him)

2019 - Pick 16 Stephens - Remains to be seen, but has been perennially injured and things aren't looking good thus far

2019 - Pick 19 SDK - Remains to be seen, but things look good thus far and is developing well - will probably end up being a 'Pass'

2020 - Pick 20 Max Holmes - From what I've seen thus far, looks like a gun and will be a 'Pass'

Things seem to have gone better in the last 3-4 years, and that seems to be because we're taking best available rather than someone who we took on projection rather than ability. Thurlow looked very good before he broke his leg, but Smedts, Lang and Cockatoo were definitely fails.

Not to mention guys like Fogarty and Constable in 2017 who we took at 22 and 36, who we saw as 'sliders' and took them...now they're both off our list just 4 years later. As Turbocat mentioned, Taheny is another who falls into this category, but wasn't as painful as we traded up two late picks to get him. Still a bust though.

Smedts, Thurlow and Lang especially hurt since even on draft night it was clear there were much better options.

 

[BORIS332]

Just to confirm ..its this kid you are talking about..? Maybe Im looking at different kid.

That footage is from a SANFL league prelim final where he was playing in a forward pocket. What don’t you like from that footage?

 

[year of the cat]

That footage is from a SANFL league prelim final where he was playing in a forward pocket. What don’t you like from that footage?

You think he’ll get to our first? He reminds me of someone but I can’t put my finger on it…..

 

[Whit3y]

Yep...and in the 12 years since that 4 year period...?

For posterity, these are our first round picks since 2009:

2010 - Pick 15 Smedts - Fail

2012 - Pick 16 Thurlow - Fail

2013 - Pick 16 Lang - Fail

2014 - Pick 10 Cockatoo - Fail

2018 - Pick 15 Clark - Pass (can play, just didn't get the best out of him)

2019 - Pick 16 Stephens - Remains to be seen, but has been perennially injured and things aren't looking good thus far

2019 - Pick 19 SDK - Remains to be seen, but things look good thus far and is developing well - will probably end up being a 'Pass'

2020 - Pick 20 Max Holmes - From what I've seen thus far, looks like a gun and will be a 'Pass'

Things seem to have gone better in the last 3-4 years, and that seems to be because we're taking best available rather than someone who we took on projection rather than ability. Thurlow looked very good before he broke his leg, but Smedts, Lang and Cockatoo were definitely fails.

Not to mention guys like Fogarty and Constable in 2017 who we took at 22 and 36, who we saw as 'sliders' and took them...now they're both off our list just 4 years later. As Turbocat mentioned, Taheny is another who falls into this category, but wasn't as painful as we traded up two late picks to get him. Still a bust though.

What a shocking record that is.