Rumour GFC 2022 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists PT2

[Gee Class Loco]

Yes please. Imagine our future backline with agile skilled mobile KB's like DeK, and HAYES. Enviable

Was thinking the same.

 

[Turbocat]

Ashcroft isn’t available…. Neither is Fletcher or Davey.
Those players are already taken.
So why count players that are not attainable??

The pick will be that number. Those player being taken are still in this draft. IF there were ten Fathersons ... the talent in the draft pool is affected. Its not like all these player have not played in the NabL or where ever. Its marginal 11 to 12 is almost indecipherable but it is 12

 

[Vdubs]

I’m not someone who wants to trade our pick 8 out but if it’s to get a player like Hayes and trade a few spots back and gain another pick with it then I’m all for it.
I think using pick 8 of Hayes would be a waste, but trading for him is not a waste

Mackie was a speculative high pick, EXACTLY 20 YEARS AGO ( #7)
Have kept quiet until now.
BUT...

I see Hayes as an excellent get- very mobile, skilled, clever, fit very tall KB.
Maybe not for the right now, but certainly worth grooming like we did with DeK, and we'll be setup defensively for yonks.

 

[TheMenz Gallery]

I get the point being raised about us getting lucky with being able to pick up both Joel & Tom in the same draft due to how the F&S selection rule worked then

But bringing both Scarlett & Ablett into the discussion seems more about the careers they forged rather than the kids they were at draft time - I don't have the best recollection of either during their pre-draft days, but not sure I remember reading or hearing too much over the years about either being top 5 picks prior to their draft

It was a very poorly written article and the jist of the story is poor old Fremantle have been hard done by. The authors agenda is quite obvious when you realise his nephew played for Freo.

Paul Duffield - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

He’s claiming our 07-11 premiership success is due to father-sons. Yeah ok there’s a little bit of truth in that. However, he canceled that argument out by acknowledging that changes have been made to prevent that from happening again. So no reason to acknowledge that as an issue for this years draft. Brisbane and Collingwood are benefiting at the moment and if they have success as a result good luck to them.

Getting back to our early premiership success, he has chosen to ignore our astute drafting which still continues to this day. We wouldn’t have won those flags without Corey, Enright, Chappy Stevie J etc.
Putting peak Ablett Scarlett and Hawkins into the Kangas 2022 side wouldn’t get them a flag. If it was that easy then the Tigers should have won the 07 flag instead of winning the wooden spoon. As they got games into 6 sons of guns as opposed to our 5.

Which brings us to the real issue for the author and that is Freo will miss out on Allen, despite his dad being a former player with a connection to the club for around 30 years.

If he chose to start the article with maybe we look at reducing the minimum games dad played to 1 or 50 or whatever then he might be able to mount a better case than the one he put forward.

 

[Turbocat]

I think he’ll be available and we won’t select him

That would be a turn up

 

[Vdubs]

I wonder if we will look back at Lewis Hayes and wonder why did we not go for him. I can feel it in my waters....he's a true footballer with brains.These gun defenders do not grow on trees, and DeK is now very desirable by 17 other teams. Yes- he is very similar.

 

[CatRiot]

I love that you've gone big on Bowes. Looks like Stewart was the lock for captain but he's blown it a bit after that suspension. I felt he played angry in the grand final, and although he did nothing wrong (which is to say he got away with some niggling when it seemed not to fit what was happening in the game) I didn't get any sense of him playing as the kind of leader people want to follow. Blitz, Duncan, Danger, all have good qualities; none are Selwood, but who can be?

I think the key question is whether the club's trade period has actually changed our thinking abou the draft. Because however much you plan for it ... and clearly bits of it had been planned for a looong time ... you cannot be sure that it will come off. now we have strong midfield stocks, is there leadership in there - Bowes among them - that makes Jhyr Clark less of a need (or even just a bit less desirable) from that point of view?

With Bruhn and Bowes in, in particular, the club might be feeling like the Premiership has given them a bit of a licence to go more high risk high reward with a pick, rather than with what has been seen for some time as the safe if unreachable option in Clark.

Someone like Philippou might appeal, not least to us as he's Woodville West Torrens and that worked out pretty well for Stokes. But alarm bells would surely be ringing that Adelaide traded out pick five ... or was that a really horrible decision on their part? i just don't see anyone in that pick five-ten group who screams "I can improve out of of sight".

It looks to me like our choice might come down to a] picking up whoever is the last of the so-called top eight, which might or might not be Clark; b] going a fraction early on Busslinger; or c] splitting with Sydney or Collingwood or some combination of that, and trying to pick up two top twenties.

I find myself hoping for different choices each day ... have been desperate for a top pick ... but what if it's just the leftovers and they aren't as top picky as a top pick should be? Handy to pick up two players in the top twenty (I think we could go companion ponies, possibly a couple of WA boys); but gee a quality key defender from WA would be nice.

I'm hoping the club makes the best possible decision, since I'm down to rock paper scissors.

I don't think Stewart has blown his chances tbh. And agree, he did play aggressive in the GF at times, but I would rather that than a meek effort in a GF tbh.
Need a few blokes playing on the edge in the team at times, without being total douche enforcers.
Selwood was suspended for 4 weeks before.
But it might not be Stewart who gets Captaincy.

 

[David the Cat]

Stewart has walked up the race right behind Selwood all year.

He's odds on to be Geelong's next skipper.

 

[Tony Barber]

so you expect Phillpu to be going in the 30's ..?

No I don’t expect phillipou to go in the 30’s.
Someone will sucked in and take him early.

But seriously. Anyone, anyone, go look at the Ashcroft and phillipou vids back to back and try and convince yourself phillipou deserves to be within 6 picks of Ashcroft.

It’s just chalk and cheese.

One looks to take off, has poor disposal and doesn’t care where the ball ends up.

The other wins the ball and immediately looks for an option and gut runs to get it again and then finish.

Look, I know we can’t get Ashcroft. But my point is they are moons apart.

In response to your other question about what we sell pick 7 for?
I have no idea what clubs have. But something like pick 15 this year and next years first round.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Payback for Mitch Thorpe?

More a case of once bitten twice shy.

 

[Drunkcat]

I am wanting Bowes to find his form more than i am thinking we will get a star with pick 8, we just need a best 22 not a star

 

[tielgaz]

Listen to Philupu ...in the afl clip talk about his season .... the kid doesn't lack confidence. I could see how some would say he is almost over confident.

Class of 2022: Son of former Dog a top-10 draft chance

Get to know South Australian Mattaes Phillipou, a big-bodied midfielder confident of making a big splash at the 2022 NAB AFL Draft

www.afl.com.au

Yes ‘I good at this , great at this, and fantastic at that. I will be an terrific asset to whoever is lucky enough to pick me up’. I think he wants to start in the ones no doubt about it and likely to be be a know it all….

 

[tielgaz]

I still have this feeling Hawthorn will select Clark.

If they do there we’ll be a gun left we will be able to pick up so all good.. nothing you can do about it.

 

[tielgaz]

I get the point being raised about us getting lucky with being able to pick up both Joel & Tom in the same draft due to how the F&S selection rule worked then

But bringing both Scarlett & Ablett into the discussion seems more about the careers they forged rather than the kids they were at draft time - I don't have the best recollection of either during their pre-draft days, but not sure I remember reading or hearing too much over the years about either being top 5 picks prior to their draft

Speaking of father and sons, who is the next son of a gun player (apart from Oscar) eg a Tom or Gaz ? We are due for one aren’t we?

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Speaking of father and sons, who is the next son of a gun player (apart from Oscar) eg a Tom or Gaz ? We are due for one aren’t we?

2022 - Oscar Riccardi
2023 - Max Brownless
2023 - Campbell Scholl
2024 - Jett Milburn
2024 - Alfie Wojcinski
2025 - Jagger Mooney
2025 - Boston Riccardi
2026 - Jack Graham
2027 - Oscar King
2027 - Monty Wojcinski
2028 - James Taylor
2029 - Harry Scarlett
2029 - Oliver Scarlett
2030 - Boh Enright
2030 - Max Ling
2030 - Archie Johnson
2031 - Jimmy Harley
2031 - Freddie Mackie

 

[gogeelongcats]

I understand that Max Bronwless has potential,
Is this correct and if so do we need possible points for him?

 

[tielgaz]

2022 - Oscar Riccardi
2023 - Max Brownless
2023 - Campbell Scholl
2024 - Jett Milburn
2024 - Alfie Wojcinski
2025 - Jagger Mooney
2025 - Boston Riccardi
2026 - Jack Graham
2027 - Oscar King
2027 - Monty Wojcinski
2028 - James Taylor
2029 - Harry Scarlett
2029 - Oliver Scarlett
2030 - Boh Enright
2030 - Max Ling
2030 - Archie Johnson
2031 - Jimmy Harley
2031 - Freddie Mackie

Thanks, which one in the next few years do you think will make it?

 

[BORIS332]

I think he’ll be available and we won’t select him

Clark featured in the best players in 3/4 of the champs games, and 8/9 Falcons games. If he’s available we will take him.

 

[Johnny Cattery]

I don't think Stewart has blown his chances tbh. And agree, he did play aggressive in the GF at times, but I would rather that than a meek effort in a GF tbh.
Need a few blokes playing on the edge in the team at times, without being total douche enforcers.
Selwood was suspended for 4 weeks before.
But it might not be Stewart who gets Captaincy.

I'm not against physical presence and I have always liked Stewart's on-field style immensely. I just felt that a couple of times it looked a bit silly, like someone who wanted to make their mark and felt they hadn't done it with their play. And in that context it seemed to me unexpectedly immature. It's not that he got suspended, it's what happened afterwards. That leads me to have reservations about his captaincy I didn't have before... not about him having 'blown it', just having raised doubt.

I do wonder how much leadership experience and leadership potential impact on our thinking about draftees. I think it was talked about at the time that Mitch Duncan had been the WA U18 captain. Stephen Wells also mentioned it when talking about one of last year's Falcons. It seems to have been so much of the thinking about and love for Clark, but not many others of that highly thought of group?

 

[FredLeDeux]

Stewart has walked up the race right behind Selwood all year.

He's odds on to be Geelong's next skipper.

Any other decision would be astounding.

 

[Two Planks]

I understand that Max Bronwless has potential,
Is this correct and if so do we need possible points for him?

He was playing 3rds at Geelong College, so he is no chance

 

[Strange Cat]

Stewart has walked up the race right behind Selwood all year.

He's odds on to be Geelong's next skipper.

Not to mention the deep discussions those two have before and durring and after game time

I personally think he’s being groomed all year , however it might be given to Danger to keep up the tradition of the captain retiring after a flag

 

[Turkey Tom]

I personally think he’s being groomed all year , however it might be given to Danger to keep up the tradition of the captain retiring after a flag

I would have thought Danger would have to be in the mix, BUT might depend on whether he is willing to give up his AFLPA role? Being a club captain isn't too time consuming I would have thought, but there would be extra stuff he would have to do and time conflicts may cause a issue.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Thanks, which one in the next few years do you think will make it?

Jagger Mooney is very talented but he was deciding between football and cricket last I heard. He made a Victorian under age side in cricket so who knows.

 

[Two Planks]

Jagger Mooney is very talented but he was deciding between football and cricket last I heard. He made a Victorian under age side in cricket so who knows.

Think he played in Newtowns 2nds in under 16s this year