Rumour GFC 2023 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt II

[cats_09]

Yep, this is making an appearance here also, and probably getting more useful as the season draws to a close and this discussion ramps up

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Holmes and Caleb Windsor, great wingers for the now and the next 8-10 years.

Small point, but Pies are NOT the challengers.
I do wonder if they can keep up the intensity a third year .
The evergreen Pendles and Sidebottom were crucial for them yesterday, and are going around again.
The heat did not deter their output, and their fitness as a team is way superior to all other teams.
This is an area we can not compete in, and will keep us from being legitimate contenders, UNLESS we can rectify this with our lengthy off season.
Our captain is said to do the BARE MINIMUM at training, and that is not leading by example.

To be fair we had an incredibly short pre season and that with a list with vets plus 1-4 yr players was always going to end in no endurance and injuries. Next year we will have a much longer prep and its possible with that that we run out games much better

 

[Vdubs]

To be fair we had an incredibly short pre season and that with a list with vets plus 1-4 yr players was always going to end in no endurance and injuries. Next year we will have a much longer prep and its possible with that that we run out games much better

As suggested above, but it is a big IF at present.
I hope Danger's finals media commitments have made him even hungrier for another tilt.

 

[Two Planks]

Collingwood finished 7 days before us last year. Doubt there was a massive difference in pre season length.

 

[Vdubs]

Collingwood finished 7 days before us last year. Doubt there was a massive difference in pre season length.

We did have the wear and tear of multiple years late finals appearances and an older list.
But this has now changed for sure.

 

[gogeelongcats]

Weird comment.

It's GF day, it's the pinnacle of our sport regardless of who's playing off.

Of course it's going to garner some comments in here. Everyone's looking at how the Cats can get back there, and they're looking at the many weaknesses an obvious challenger in Collingwood has.

It's been mentioned ad nauseum, but there's not going to be anything juicy until post the GF. It might even take till the start of the trade period, clubs are so tight lipped these days, the best we can get is any alleged 'ITK' news.

The Thomas thing looks dead in the water, Smith feels like a real possibility, but still a week or so away from anything legit been released.

Wines might be something, it might not, likewise Lord, and then there's probably some lesser names in the pipeline that we're yet to hear about.

Thw thread will heat up big time over the next month with the aforementioned names, and maybe even a couple surprises....but it's hardly strange or 'loser talk' that some folks are mentioning the GF. It's Christmas day for footy fans.

I would rather Lord more so than Wines. Who would have more value?

 

[D BRIDGE]

Collingwood finished 7 days before us last year. Doubt there was a massive difference in pre season length.

Would have been a little bit... They would have probably been back at training earlier than required and hungrier than ever.

We probably partied, came back later, and were unprepared/less motivated.

 

[gogeelongcats]

Would have been a little bit... They would have probably been back at training earlier than required and hungrier than ever.

We probably partied, came back later, and were unprepared/less motivated

I think the club felt that a reduced preparation would give the players a better opportunity this year. Instead of resting players mid season they felt they would win enough games to make the top 4 anyway. They certainly will be better prepared next year. BANK THE WINS AND GET IN THE EIGHT IS THE NEW GOAL

 

[Pure_Ownage]

As suggested above, but it is a big IF at present.
I hope Danger's finals media commitments have made him even hungrier for another tilt.

I hope so too because the league is low standard so its wide open for anyone. Hopefully he can see the possibility that we can climb through and pinch a flag before he retires.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Collingwood finished 7 days before us last year. Doubt there was a massive difference in pre season length.

They didnt have exactly the same list profile as us though re their young players in particular.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I would rather Lord more so than Wines. Who would have more value?

Port wont agree to trade either so its irrelevant but port would want more for wines i think.

 

[Two Planks]

Port wont agree to trade either so its irrelevant but port would want more for wines i think.

It would depend if you were taking the entire salary on board

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Has there been any talk about what our salary cap situation is. Do we have cap space to spend.

Heaps id say. We have very few players contracted past next year. 2024 is almost certainly the last year for hawkins, rohan, stanley,tuohy and maybe bews as well.
End 2024 duncan and dangers 5 year deals expire and they will either retire or go onto 1 year deals on lower $.

We will need some $ to retain our guys who are FA priority signings next year (zuthrie jack henry oconnor stengle, im assuming we are happy to let parf go) plus we will want to lock up holmes and clark and bruhn and ollie long term. But still we will be barely hitting 95 % cao once the vets retire.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Will have to check but my impression was a lot of those were when Frampton was on the bench.

My impression was that most of them were directly on Frampton.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Anyone who thinks Frankston was good yesterday was watching a different game to me. 2 possessions, drops an absolute sitter 25m out from goal at a crucial time and his opponent was huge in the second half. Collingwood were playing man short up forward for the whole game due to his ineptitude, and if they had lost he would have been absolutely roasted by all pies fans.

Frampton was a walking punchline all game. If I was a pies fan and he wasn't delisted end of year I'd be ropeable.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Frampton was a walking punchline all game. If I was a pies fan and he wasn't delisted end of year I'd be ropeable.

He wont be delisted because they probably put him on a 2 or 3 year deal but he should be. He should get the robert eddy treatment.

 

[Two Planks]

We talk about Frampton how opposition fans talk about Kolo

 

[Grimoz]

We talk about Frampton how opposition fans talk about Kolo

Difference being that Kolo was fantastic in our GF win last year!!!

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Jon Ralph:

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catempire I blame you for this. You called a quiet off season too early

 

[gogeelongcats]

We talk about Frampton how opposition fans talk about Kolo

He does make an error from time to time but is that enough to continually crucify him?

 

[moond0g]

They didnt have exactly the same list profile as us though re their young players in particular.

Collingwood had the 4th oldest list this year. Not exactly young

 

[year of the cat]

Collingwood had the 4th oldest list this year. Not exactly young

Yeah, absolute fallacy that they are young. They will lose some key players over the next 12 months.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Collingwood finished 7 days before us last year. Doubt there was a massive difference in pre season length.

It is if you spend the next month or two drinking heavily

 

[Hinkley29]

Collingwood finished 7 days before us last year. Doubt there was a massive difference in pre season length.

They didn’t celebrate a flag like we did though

 

[Goggin Our Best]

Frampton was a walking punchline all game. If I was a pies fan and he wasn't delisted end of year I'd be ropeable.

I dont think they will be ropeable about anything for quite some period of time

 

[foxdog50]

Frampton was a walking punchline all game. If I was a pies fan and he wasn't delisted end of year I'd be ropeable.

It's amazing Nathan Kreuger still on there list... he be delisted when his contract is up ( footy wire saying next year)