Rumour GFC 2023 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt II

[cats_09]

Yep, this is making an appearance here also, and probably getting more useful as the season draws to a close and this discussion ramps up

 

[moond0g]

Best case would be to get Oliver, almost at any cost.
But absolute clear second best case would be for us to use pick 7 to help facilitate the Oliver trade for another club where we can push for overs.
Maybe Smith and a pick back for 7 or something like that, if he would chose the dogs for example.
We should stay interested in whatever the outcome is and look to be a player in it.

There’s no way we’re getting Smith for 7 alone, let alone getting a pick coming back with him.

 

[Turbocat]

You’d think that might put a little squeeze on their SC?

It gets down to the details. 8 years is a long time. He might have agreed to less in the short term.

 

[Turbocat]

There’s no way we’re getting Smith for 7 alone, let alone getting a pick coming back with him.

One would think if it was just smith and smith alone ... dogs hold the whip. If they needed to find a good pick to get Oliver done ...maybe it changes a bit... but hawks are interested too. We are not the only bed in town.

 

[Turbocat]

How are lord/Dursma a safer bet than Smith?

Only one of them has proven they’ve got what it takes to be a top level AFL player, and they don’t play for port.

They are different deals. The Port players relate to Sav. How do we get that deal done. How they get everything done ... it sounds like they are happy to talk about Duursma. No idea if Geelong would be interested or if Ess would jump at him

 

[Rubberducky]

One would think if it was just smith and smith alone ... dogs hold the whip. If they needed to find a good pick to get Oliver done ...maybe it changes a bit... but hawks are interested too. We are not the only bed in town.

Yeah, Oliver has certainly created more opportunity to land Smith if the dogs go chasing him in any way. The same opportunity the negotiations with Timmy & Jamarra may create through pressure on list management.

Gets a lot more exciting with Oliver being put on the market. Clubs changing plans/priorities at the last minute will only present more opportunities for us to get involved.

 

[CoolCat75]

Premierships are bloody hard to win. I would trade 7 and F1 for Oliver in a heartbeat. Add Oliver and a fit Guthrie to the midfield, and tell me that’s not a roaring engine room.

 

[catempire]

Nick Watson in a moon boot atm.

A moon boot on him would come up to his armpit.

 

[Jumping Jack]

I'm now hearing that Connors (and possibly Bailey Smith

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) will make comment in the next 24-48 hours to formally stamp out any discussion around Smith leaving the Dogs this trade period. There's been some discussions in the last few days between all parties and clubs are now effectively being told Smith is a required player, and to stop asking the question. Disappointing if true.

Never say never, but I think if they come out with a firm statement like that then we need to accept that it's no deal this year and we turn our attention to other options. Compare that to the Oliver situation and Melbourne F.C choosing to say nothing, and we potentially have two different situations playing out. Don't think we've got enough aces up our sleeve to get that deal done though.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

A moon boot on him would come up to his armpit.

They make them for children too you know

 

[calder_daddy]

Nick Watson in a moon boot atm.

So your saying we’re a chance

 

[Two Planks]

Premierships are bloody hard to win. I would trade 7 and F1 for Oliver in a heartbeat. Add Oliver and a fit Guthrie to the midfield, and tell me that’s not a roaring engine room.

If Melbourne accept that deal you know the rumours are worse than we are aware of.

 

[moond0g]

One would think if it was just smith and smith alone ... dogs hold the whip. If they needed to find a good pick to get Oliver done ...maybe it changes a bit... but hawks are interested too. We are not the only bed in town.

1. they would still want to extract maximum value for Smith
2. the Dogs are one of the worst fits for Oliver, so i don't know why they would chase him anyway.

Dogs have Bont, Libba, Smith, Macrae, Treloar. There's no need for another mid. The whole reason Smith is reportedly keen on a trade is because he isn't getting enough midfield time. Smith and Macrae have been forced to play wing/HFF this year because there isn't room for them. Why get another inside mid in and push someone else to the outside?

 

[iameviljez]

Premierships are bloody hard to win. I would trade 7 and F1 for Oliver in a heartbeat. Add Oliver and a fit Guthrie to the midfield, and tell me that’s not a roaring engine room.

It's not a roaring engine room. Guthrie is 31 and hasn't played for a year. Danger is creaking. The ruck situation is Stanley past his best, and a very green Conway. Apart from Atkins, all the other options are at the start or the end of their careers.

 

[Gee Class Loco]

It's not a roaring engine room. Guthrie is 31 and hasn't played for a year. Danger is creaking. The ruck situation is Stanley past his best, and a very green Conway. Apart from Atkins, all the other options are at the start or the end of their careers.

True... but we will have a better and improved version of Tanner Bruhn and Max Holmes which along with a returning Guthrie improves our midfield group.
Roaring No... Quietly Purring Mmmm YES.
FWIW. Don't be too surprised of Conway being a better version of what we got from Stanley this year. I have no doubt he will and then some.
Interesting times ahead.

 

[Grimoz]

I'm now hearing that Connors (and possibly Bailey Smith) will make comment in the next 24-48 hours to formally stamp out any discussion around Smith leaving the Dogs this trade period. There's been some discussions in the last few days between all parties and clubs are now effectively being told Smith is a required player, and to stop asking the question. Disappointing if true.

Never say never, but I think if they come out with a firm statement like that then we need to accept that it's no deal this year and we turn our attention to other options. Compare that to the Oliver situation and Melbourne F.C choosing to say nothing, and we potentially have two different situations playing out. Don't think we've got enough aces up our sleeve to get that deal done though.

I very much doubt they are going to tell teams to stop asking the question regarding Smith, in regards to Oliver we have no chance of landing him, his asking price will be insane and doubt the club would feel comfortable with the term and $$, would be on a million a year easy.

 

[CatsDoItBetter]

If a player and their agent come out before trade time to make a statement to say they’re staying at their current club I’d be inclined to think they’re leaving. Why would they come out to make a statement saying he’s not going? I could understand a club doing that but there’s no need for a player or agent to do that. Particularly in Smith’s case, Oliver is a different circumstances in which someone needs to say something or he’s gone.

 

[Jeff76]

No chance Smith goes to the Hawks, they’re chasing Pick #1.


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[year of the cat]

I'm now hearing that Connors (and possibly Bailey Smith) will make comment in the next 24-48 hours to formally stamp out any discussion around Smith leaving the Dogs this trade period. There's been some discussions in the last few days between all parties and clubs are now effectively being told Smith is a required player, and to stop asking the question. Disappointing if true.

Never say never, but I think if they come out with a firm statement like that then we need to accept that it's no deal this year and we turn our attention to other options. Compare that to the Oliver situation and Melbourne F.C choosing to say nothing, and we potentially have two different situations playing out. Don't think we've got enough aces up our sleeve to get that deal done though.

Safe to say he was probably a more likely shot at the end of next year anyway. If he doesn’t re-sign in the first half of next season you’d assume he’s out.

 

[Kobe Gryant]

If Smith's off the table our best shot is going youth like last year.

Get Lord, Duursma or a pick to get George Stevens or Charlie Edwards out of Port.

Trade up to get Sanders, or take O'Sullivan/Wilson with pick 7.

Add Cadman, JUH or Smith next year.

Just keep adding to the young nucleus that'll hopefully be winning us a flag in 4-5 years.

 

[Sttew]

I just cannot see Oliver leaving Melbourne. SEN saying the Club has given him an ultimatum - Shape up or Ship out. Very reminiscent of JDG at Pies, and look how that turned out...

 

[Jumping Jack]

I very much doubt they are going to tell teams to stop asking the question regarding Smith, in regards to Oliver we have no chance of landing him, his asking price will be insane and doubt the club would feel comfortable with the term and $$, would be on a million a year easy.

Only passing on what I've been told, and I think it's changed a bit this week. It seems Geelong (and other clubs) are waving the white flag on dragging Smith away from the Dogs this year. If that's the case, I'm comfortable enough with my source to accept that's what's happening.

As much as we want him, and possibly Oliver, there's also a chance we revisit this discussion in a few years and breathe a big sigh of relief that we dodged bullets on both fronts.

 

[Stocks_go_Up]

Why does the AFL make draft week so long - it's taking the piss. Force clubs to get serious and do it over 3 days maximum. If you can't organise shit in that time then move on.

 

[Rubberducky]

Why does the AFL make draft week so long - it's taking the piss. Force clubs to get serious and do it over 3 days maximum. If you can't organise s**t in that time then move on.

For headlines, its great business. Dragging it out means extra weeks of AFL owning the news.

 

[Kobe Gryant]

Only passing on what I've been told, and I think it's changed a bit this week. It seems Geelong (and other clubs) are waving the white flag on dragging Smith away from the Dogs this year. If that's the case, I'm comfortable enough with my source to accept that's what's happening.

As much as we want him, and possibly Oliver, there's also a chance we revisit this discussion in a few years and breathe a big sigh of relief that we dodged bullets on both fronts.

Wouldn't it be a bit weird to wave the white flag already? We haven't even started the trade period yet.

 

[Hamingja]

Oliver is a very good player, the current talk of him being one of the all time great players for the demons took me by surprise.
Not taking anything away from him but that’s embarrassing for the demons if that really stacks up. He’s not even the best player in their team currently.

I'm sure they had some good players back in the Norm Smith era but modern times, say 90s onwards, they wouldn't have a lot. Stynes, Neitz, Lyon at a stretch if you say his full potential was cut down by injury. Then you basically are at Gawn, Petracca, Oliver.