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s**t VFL team if he's captain
VFL sides are typically less so about being the best player, and rather having the ability to lead.

At that level, it's about who's eating right, turning up to training early and leaving late, setting the example on and off the field. It's why many of us believed Dalhaus had that role waiting for him if he chose to go down that path.

You can't make the captain Jhye Clark, Mitch Knevitt, Toby Conway or whichever youngster has leadership scope at the time, as there's every chance they're hardly there.

Stephens for all his flaws purely as a footballer, has the leadership intangibles to be a captain at that level.

All he would have to do is average 20 or so touches and he's probably got the role.
 
VFL sides are typically less so about being the best player, and rather having the ability to lead.

At that level, it's about who's eating right, turning up to training early and leaving late, setting the example on and off the field. It's why many of us believed Dalhaus had that role waiting for him if he chose to go down that path.

You can't make the captain Jhye Clark, Mitch Knevitt, Toby Conway or whichever youngster has leadership scope at the time, as there's every chance they're hardly there.

Stephens for all his flaws purely as a footballer, has the leadership intangibles to be a captain at that level.

All he would have to do is average 20 or so touches and he's probably got the role.
Was a bit of a joke but yes you're right, he could make a decent captain for Portarlington.
 
I would've been interested in Lachie Neale. Not sure if Geelong were though.
 

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It's encouraging to note that many recently selected players are widely recognized for their strong leadership qualities. Among them are:

  • Atkins
  • Conway
  • Bruhn
  • Holmes
  • Bowes
  • Clark
  • O'Sullivan
  • O'Connor

Considering these promising prospects, the question arises: who is the likely successor?

My pick is Atkins followed by Clark.


Additionally, is there anyone else I may have overlooked?
 
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I know there’s obviously been some big name players we’ve been interested in, that we’ve been linked to and ultimately they’ve decided to sign elsewhere - but of those who’ve changed teams & opted against Geelong’s offer, is there anyone we could look upon as being one that really got away, and be like “damn, would have been good if they said yes to us!”?

Please note that I’m not talking about those who’ve opted to re-sign with their original club such as Curnow or say TDK, but purely those who’ve changed teams - like Hopper or Stringer

People were linking us to Taranto just as much as hopper early on. Whether he counts as one that got away I’m not sure, but he had a pretty good season last year.
 
It's encouraging to note that many recently selected players are widely recognized for their strong leadership qualities. Among them are:

  • Atkins
  • Conway
  • Bruhn
  • Holmes
  • Bowes
  • Clark
  • O'Sullivan
  • O'Connor

Considering these promising prospects, the question arises: who is the likely successor?

My pick is Atkins followed by Clark.


Additionally, is there anyone else I may have overlooked?
If I remember correctly C Scott has said a few times that being a good player on the field is #1 for a captain.

I'd say Stewart is very likely the next captain
 
It's encouraging to note that many recently selected players are widely recognized for their strong leadership qualities. Among them are:

  • Atkins
  • Conway
  • Bruhn
  • Holmes
  • Bowes
  • Clark
  • O'Sullivan
  • O'Connor

Considering these promising prospects, the question arises: who is the likely successor?

My pick is Atkins followed by Clark.


Additionally, is there anyone else I may have overlooked?

Zach Guthrie - if we still had a leadership group that sat behind the captain, I wouldn't be surprised if he was in it this season
 
The funniest thing about the Hopper deal is many of us in here (including me) where luke-warm on him at best.

The belief here was if it was a one or the other deal between him and Bruhn, we felt we got the much better deal with Tanner as he was younger, suited the age profile we needed at the time, and had the scope to improve.

Next minute you've got Richmond posters coming in here acting like they've stolen prime Cindy Crawford from us, and how distraught we must be to miss out.

Jacob Hopper. I repeat, Jacob F***ING Hopper is who you sold your future for.

The whole point of copying the Geelong method was bringing in superstars like Cameron & Dangerfield. League altering talents. That's the idea they took inspiration from.

You don't sell the farm for B+ midfielders you can find anywhere, and that's exactly what they went and did.
They're turning against Hopper even on their own board now....
 
The funniest thing about the Hopper deal is many of us in here (including me) where luke-warm on him at best.

The belief here was if it was a one or the other deal between him and Bruhn, we felt we got the much better deal with Tanner as he was younger, suited the age profile we needed at the time, and had the scope to improve.

Next minute you've got Richmond posters coming in here acting like they've stolen prime Cindy Crawford from us, and how distraught we must be to miss out.

Jacob Hopper. I repeat, Jacob F***ING Hopper is who you sold your future for.

The whole point of copying the Geelong method was bringing in superstars like Cameron & Dangerfield. League altering talents. That's the idea they took inspiration from.

You don't sell the farm for B+ midfielders you can find anywhere, and that's exactly what they went and did.

I see the Hopper Bruhn transfiguration as a demarcation between how we were focused and how our focus moved to a more youthful drafting trade approach. While i would have been happy enough to have Hopper at the right price, even better as a FA.. I think the trading for him by Rich was a serious over reach .. more than happy we put our focus on a Boomerang Falcon.
 
The first game against Stk will be a bit of a flash back to 2 decades ago. StK youth getting all the attention and accolades. Only time will tell if the outcome is similar to back then but Filpu and Wilson have both been given a fairly big tick in the media. Liked Wilson in the draft but if COS can become a long term player for us ... then I think we have done OK ... finding a tall player is a win thats harder to find than a mid.
 

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The first game against Stk will be a bit of a flash back to 2 decades ago. StK youth getting all the attention and accolades. Only time will tell if the outcome is similar to back then but Filpu and Wilson have both been given a fairly big tick in the media. Liked Wilson in the draft but if COS can become a long term player for us ... then I think we have done OK ... finding a tall player is a win thats harder to find than a mid.
If COS can become a long term player for us?..... more like WILL not IF with COS being a 'great get', same as TDK Turbocat. Cats have absolutely nailed it getting those two key position backs because in time they'll be the AFL's leading key-back combo, there's nothing surer. COS is a very similar player to Lever at the Dees with the only difference being, that it in time he'll be better.
 
If COS can become a long term player for us?..... more like WILL not IF with COS being a 'great get', same as TDK Turbocat. Cats have absolutely nailed it getting those two key position backs because in time they'll be the AFL's leading key-back combo, there's nothing surer. COS is a very similar player to Lever at the Dees with the only difference being, that it in time he'll be better.
My only question is when. Can he be a 3rd tall intercept this year or next? Is he a kpd the years from now?
 
My only question is when. Can he be a 3rd tall intercept this year or next? Is he a kpd the years from now?

Judging by COS's body strength verses the Carlton hit out, he still has a bit of muscle to put on, so it's inconclusive as to whether he can be a 3rd interceptor at this very early stage of his development in the senior side but what impressed me as the game progressed, especially in the second half under stifling hot conditions he actually got better. In fact there was one marking contest in last quarter against Tom De Koning where he easily and surprisingly matched him in the contest and given he is so young with a reasonably immature body that was a great effort. This kid has so much 'natural talent and potential' as he's a great reader of the play and for his size is 'excellent below his knees' with superb marking, spoiling, handballing and kicking skills and loves to run and attack with his 'extra attacking mindset' a real highlight, the same as SDK and between the two of them as the key-position backs going forward we're going to have a extremely attacking back-half for many years to come which is going to be so exciting for the club and us supporters.

CTTF.... this weeks hit out against the Bombers will give us a better indication of how far advanced his body is to handle the oppositions bigger bodies and the on-going riggers of the AFL but also what position in the shorter term he is best suited to which is what you were eluding too but rest assured we have 'struck gold' getting this kid as top line key-position players are 'priceless' and are worth their weight in gold.
 
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Anyone heard we are into Finn McRae?

Few teams probably are
As in you've heard something? Or just curious?

Personally, I don't see it. If he was playing at St Kilda rather than Collingwood, I doubt we'd even know who he is.

Going into his 4th year with 12 games to his name. If we're going to be critical of Holmes & Bruhn on here and feel we need better than them to improve, Macrae wouldn't last a second. He's closer to James Willis than he is those two.

If it's a Holmes/Collingwood thing, then I'd take him as steak knives, but he couldn't be the main prize one would think.
 
As in you've heard something? Or just curious?

Personally, I don't see it. If he was playing at St Kilda rather than Collingwood, I doubt we'd even know who he is.

Going into his 4th year with 12 games to his name. If we're going to be critical of Holmes & Bruhn on here and feel we need better than them to improve, Macrae wouldn't last a second. He's closer to James Willis than he is those two.

If it's a Holmes/Collingwood thing, then I'd take him as steak knives, but he couldn't be the main prize one would think.

It's hard to think of a more overhyped player. Not saying he can't be any good but 20+ year old
olds stuck in the VFL generally don't receive the sort of attention he has.

Maybe Cumberland who is supposedly a star but multiple coaches have now left in the VFL. At least he showed a bit at AFL level at one point. MacRae has barely even played.
 

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As in you've heard something? Or just curious?

Personally, I don't see it. If he was playing at St Kilda rather than Collingwood, I doubt we'd even know who he is.

Going into his 4th year with 12 games to his name. If we're going to be critical of Holmes & Bruhn on here and feel we need better than them to improve, Macrae wouldn't last a second. He's closer to James Willis than he is those two.

If it's a Holmes/Collingwood thing, then I'd take him as steak knives, but he couldn't be the main prize one would think.
Heard from an unreliable source, so take with a grain of salt.
But they do have a Collingwood connection, maybe just an age profile thing?
 
Heard from an unreliable source, so take with a grain of salt.
But they do have a Collingwood connection, maybe just an age profile thing?
I could see us being interested purely because of the list turnover we're going to see over the next couple years.

Over the next 24 months odds are all of Duncan, Dangerfield, Hawkins, Blicavs, Touhy, Bews, Stanley, & Rohan are going to be out the door.

On injury alone, we probably have to throw Guthrie senior into that category now too, while guys like Parfitt are unlikely to be kept around.

We're either going to be replacing them with high draft picks, players like Smith, JUH, and whoever else...or a bit of both, but that won't be all of it done and dusted.

Basically, what I'm trying to say is do the club see a 22/23 year old Finn Macrae as a better option to have on the list than pick 50+ in the draft? I'd assume they would.

The law of averages would suggest he probably is too, and I could see why he could appeal in that sense.

It all depends on what we see him as I suppose. If we think he's the missing link (which I doubt) I'm of the view that we're completely delusional and have bought into the unjustified hype.

If we just see him as a means to an end while we transition the list though, well that's a very different story.
 
It's hard to think of a more overhyped player. Not saying he can't be any good but 20+ year old
olds stuck in the VFL generally don't receive the sort of attention he has.

Maybe Cumberland who is supposedly a star but multiple coaches have now left in the VFL. At least he showed a bit at AFL level at one point. MacRae has barely even played.
It's Collingwood supporters man, they still think Nathan Kreuger and Ash Johnson are the second coming of Lloyd & Lucas.

They'll both be out of the AFL in the next 24 months, or end up with Mitch Brown esque longevity without really doing much.

I know we're not the most positive bunch on here, but I do prefer that we at least for the most part try to live in reality, rather than whatever they're doing.

Credit to the media, they know if they report that sort of things that the mouth breathers will eat it up, they're just capitalising on the market.

That doesn't make any of it true though, and if you're not wearing black & white glasses, you see through that pretty quickly.
 
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