Rumour GFC 2025 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt 2

[Grimoz]

Am i the only one that thinks Silvagni is a spud? 4 million is waaaay overs!!!

 

[dangerwood]

Am i the only one that thinks Silvagni is a spud? 4 million is waaaay overs!!!

I wouldn't say spud but it's over. Not sure his addition to the saints will help with their player unrest.

 

[AM]

Am i the only one that thinks Silvagni is a spud? 4 million is waaaay overs!!!

The money is overs, but he’s not a spud. He’s one Bagger who always has a crack. After all these years of him being used as a spare parts player, he might have found his home in the back half.

I know a few Carlton tragics, and are they savage on the old man?

 

[AM]

Correct. Which is why curnow wont Get traded anywhere because Carlton will set the price too high.

Most things are for sale, it’s just a matter of price. That includes players. That said, I do think the Baggers will keep him, because their asking price will be more than any club will pony up.

 

[Whiskers]

Curnow’s knees are no good.
No club will take him once they do a medical on him anyway.
He’s staying.

 

[And_ROOS]

Correct. Which is why curnow wont Get traded anywhere because Carlton will set the price too high.

Their supporters online on social are insane and think Curnow, who in the 9 seasons he has played games has had 2 elite seasons and 1 great season and I have seen different accounts asking for things like "Goulden + Florent + 2 first rounders" etc.

They act like he is a 90 goal a year mid 20s forward with no injury history. He is 29 next year, and could be on a downward trend. He doesn't have the consistency to command a big fee.

Am i the only one that thinks Silvagni is a spud? 4 million is waaaay overs!!!

I don't think he is a spud he was looking good as a second/loose defender at Carlton before he got injured, again, but I am seeing reports its 5 years at 800k or 850k per year and thats a lot of money for a player who has played 13 games this season, missed 2024 injured, then going backwards from 2023 played 16 games, 21 games, 15 games, 3 games, 17 games, 15 games, 20 games and 8 games in his first season.
JS is just completely unreliable to be earning that sort of coin.
If he was fit he actually would be a good Temu Blicavs because he can rotate in the ruck, was ok in defence and unlike Blicavs is a decent set shot and has some forward craft.

 

[dazbroncos]

I read the first line and thought …gee thats a bit harsh by Daz I didn’t think my post was that crook. LOL

Yeah wasn’t clear there really.. not you in any case.. that article was horrendous

Go Catters

 

[small 4wards]

Best offer for Curnow I saw was given by DDF:
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[Mr Meow]

Curnow?

More like Cur-NO!

Best I've got right now.

 

[Turbocat]

Correct. Which is why curnow wont Get traded anywhere because Carlton will set the price too high.

In the end you may be 100% correct.

If i were Carlton Id squeeze a bit but ultimately do a trade especially if it gets them a chance to reset. Get a couple of kids and couple of picks imo..If he were OOC and a FA … the most they would get is an R1… so anything in excess of that is a bonus for a 29 year old player with a history of injury. Keep him and they do not do anything for a couple of years .. and its probably a wasted opportunity.A bit of short term pain and add some talent and some picks.. especially if his knees are a bit less than robust but...

...maybe , as you say , they will want a dramatic win to trade him. .. and that their prerogative. and if he cant get out , then he has only himself and his manager to blame for prioritising the security of payment over his self determination that a shorter contract would have given him.

I wonder when Jack S decided the Saints were his 2026 team.


In the end as long as we hold fast and only offer our limit then its likely to not our problem as I doubt our best actions a trade.

 

[dudusmaximus]

I wonder when Jack S decided the Saints were his 2026 team.

He was in deep water.. distressed.. signalled SOS. He was quickly rescued.

 

[Turbocat]

Think there's a bit of the player wanting out but also Clubs being more open to the player wanting out, especially when that player is 12 months out from free agency

IF Jezza was a true free agent (not restricted), it would have seen GWS receive pick 9 as compensation when he joined us rather than the forced trade situation that arose and the trading of multiple picks plus Jezza - and as we know, 99% of the time clubs won't match a FA offer meaning they'll accept the compo pick

But there's times where clubs know 12+ months out that a player is leaning towards a move versus staying, so they'll be more open to trading a player out when they believe they can get more for a trade during that "Pre-FA" period compared with what they'd receive when the player actually hits free agency

As a free agent, the club receives a single compensation pick for the player but as a pre-FA, the original club may be able to push for a higher pick than they'd receive via compensation or maybe have a bit more thrown in


I don't think it's always as simply as being the player looking for an out while under contract

Good post.

The pre agent observation really is amplified with someone like Butters. Trade him this year or let him see out the current contract and be RFA or get him to sign for two more.. and then he would be gone in 3.. with no ability to get more than comp.

Port have offered a mega 2 year deal so maybe they rate three years more of Butters more than picks this year in an ify draft even if its cost them down the track...

but what if a club did have a handful of real early picks. Lets say Butters had always dreamed about playing at Ess. What they might offer would be so far in excess of what they might ever get offered again. Would Port jump then. He has been linked to Dogs and Cats ..and they do not have that type of hand so I think he stays.

RFA is annoying and it must go eventually. To penalise some for earning too much seems wrong somehow.It sort of like an AFL Tax. Im surprised someone has not challenged it as being discriminatory.

Its not evn that accurate. To have the way a contract is structured affect whether you are RFA or UFA seems to be contrary to the intent of RFA. Front load and rear loading .. still the same money yet one is UFA one is not.
Apparently Draper at ESS who is UFA only became UFA because of other players had their contracts were restructured… and wasn't Cameron at GWS for ten years, starting as a 17 year old as they were a start up club. He should have been UFA ..

and it seems 99% time clubs do not match … except if they are dealing with geelong.

 

[Turbocat]

Marshall and Ryan in a 3 way trade has always made the most sense to me. Why put Marshall forward where he's kicked all of 15 goals in a year ever? You could be using him to get an actual forward line player to play there.

what is the third part...

(sounds like Marx brothers… the part where the party of the first part shall be known in this contract as the party of the first part..)

 

[iameviljez]

No way.
One Carlton wont want picks. Pick 9 is around where Dean gets bid so pointless and their next years first isn't appealing.
And 2 they will want players (and not fringe salary dumps like florent)
Carlton will ask for heeney or Gulden but they know its no chance.
Papley and a couple of high picks will get it done. If he doesn't move maybe Hayward (who they chased last year) or maybe someone like rowbottom or mcinerney etc.
But if they aren't prepared to part with best 22 players its no chance and same with Geelong if he Came here.

Who was the last big name to move in exchange for a best-22 player?

Probably Ryan Griffen, but that one was forced by the Dogs.

 

[iameviljez]

I do. Its not just 18 year olds in the draft is it. Kelly was mid 20’s and had a family. Mannagh is another. There are plenty that are not 18.

My point is if its good enough for the kids then ther should be a mechanism that allows clubs to trade contracts.. Now maybe their is a bonus for the player of some sort ..maybe there is a cut off after so long in the comp etc..but being able to trade the contract and push the player should be allowed to some degree.

It’s overwhelmingly 18 year olds, though. Kelly and Mannagh are very much the exception.

Completely disagree about trading mid career players without consent. It’s not remotely fair on their partners, kids, families etc, and it’s a huge career killer for the partner.

 

[canny30]

A coach who didn’t like him and got the arse at the end of the year.

Yeah I’d trust how JSel see’s JC, not someone who is known for not being a people person and has the personality of a scratchie

Scarlo didnt get the arse, he walked, just as Boris did.

I think it's poor form to be defending a bloke that showed a severe lack of respect to the club (Clark) and also denigrate a legend of our club because it's suits your narrative.

 

[canny30]

Scarlett is a knob so thats not surprising.

And another one defending him.....this blows my mind tbh.

Clark is the one who is a massive nob.

He forced through the trade while under contract.

I think we can agree Stephen Wells is not a nob

Btw this article is only a tiny part of the story. Clark acted like an entitled little prick.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/im-not-coming-back-afl-trade-drama-explodes/news-story/a2e67c00d34c5950e2d0ce1db9dacd8a

 

[Pure_Ownage]

The money is overs, but he’s not a spud. He’s one Bagger who always has a crack. After all these years of him being used as a spare parts player, he might have found his home in the back half.

I know a few Carlton tragics, and are they savage on the old man?

Hes not a complete spud but hes way top injury prone for that money. They are morons.

 

[Warhorse]

And another one defending him.....this blows my mind tbh.

Clark is the one who is a massive nob.

He forced through the trade while under contract.

I think we can agree Stephen Wells is not a nob

Btw this article is only a tiny part of the story. Clark acted like an entitled little prick.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/im-not-coming-back-afl-trade-drama-explodes/news-story/a2e67c00d34c5950e2d0ce1db9dacd8a

You don't know what you are talking about

 

[calder_daddy]

Scarlo didnt get the arse, he walked, just as Boris did.

I think it's poor form to be defending a bloke that showed a severe lack of respect to the club (Clark) and also denigrate a legend of our club because it's suits your narrative.

Please see below

You don't know what you are talking about

 

[canny30]

You don't know what you are talking about

I know exactly what I'm talking about.

 

[canny30]

Please see below

Please see above

 

[standupand]

RFA is annoying and it must go eventually. To penalise some for earning too much seems wrong somehow.It sort of like an AFL Tax. Im surprised someone has not challenged it as being discriminatory.

It would absolutely be considered an illegal restraint of trade in any other walk of life, as would the draft system. All depends on what's considered reasonable for the purpose of maintaining an even competition. I agree it's very questionable.

 

[iameviljez]

That would the definition of selling low.

Plus it would erode the relationship with one of our most important players (Jack H).

We should be looking to build o Henry up, not giving him away for next to nothing

Ollie is a good player in bad form IMO.

 

[Always on the ball]

We won’t do anything with TB. Not until the case is over.

There’s some talk in the trade thread of Cam requesting an extension. Was a while ago, June-ish. Obviously only hearsay, not a fact.

can confirm CG wants to go on.