Rumour GFC 2025 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt 2

[Cataholic]

Am i the only one that thinks Silvagni is a spud? 4 million is waaaay overs!!!

It is overs, and is yet another example of money distorting the game, and the unhealthy allegiance to money that is overwhelming it.

Sure, players want to set themselves up, but Silvagni $4mil, TDK $13mil +, etc??

Nah. I see an element of greed pervading the game.

 

[iameviljez]

It is overs, and is yet another example of money distorting the game, and the unhealthy allegiance to money that is overwhelming it.

Sure, players want to set themselves up, but Silvagni $4mil, TDK $13mil +, etc??

Nah. I see an element of greed pervading the game.

Take it if you can get it

 

[The_Koulouriotis_Fan]

Ollie is a good player in bad form IMO.

100% he’s already shown how good he can be and is only young, first 2 years with us were super solid & his prelim was exceptional

 

[The_Koulouriotis_Fan]

It’s probably been mentioned on here but what’s the word on Hunter Holmes? Does he look like a good prospect and are we any chance of picking him up?

 

[CatToTheFuture]

what is the third part...

(sounds like Marx brothers… the part where the party of the first part shall be known in this contract as the party of the first part..)

West coast, us, saints

 

[Cataholic]

Take it if you can get it

Somewhere along the line that becomes pure greed.

 

[Gee Class Loco]

Totally disagree but thats why we are here to share different opinions.

The guy kicked 4 in a PF. He has talent. He need to do so work and get better in his areas of weakness. I think his dropping this year should be a soft shake on the shoulder. Improve you set shot. Get better over the ground. Work harder ..etc

That part about talent nor indeed his ability is not in question.
Never has been.
But every player in a starting 18 has talent/ability otherwise they wouldn't be there.
He has had this talent and ability ever since he was drafted in 2020, 5 years ago.
His lack of exposure in the seniors is solely on his application and lack of work off field that was highlighted last year.
That part i know. So if he does the hard work he'll be fine.... or should be.
But until then he is as i said not even in our top 25 players.
Break Glass in Emergency
The ball is in his court, has always been in his court.
As talent & ability, which every AFL player. Only gets u so far.
All i can say is thank God we bought Jack Martin to the club.

 

[cats_09]

 

[stavro#4]

Some important context to what Cleary actually says and why you are going to have to improve your FRP offer.

 

[calder_daddy]

Some important context to what Cleary actually says and why you are going to have to improve your FRP offer.

Let’s say his next 2 years is around the 500k mark instead of the 800-900k
That’s still half a mill that you can put towards these other players without pushing other players like Windhager out.
Helps you up your offer
I understand you have to give to get a contracted player so I think it will be a first round pick and then something like a 3rd and you give us back a 5th rounder or something

 

[D BRIDGE]

Some important context to what Cleary actually says and why you are going to have to improve your FRP offer.

You guys gonna need the draft capital.

It evens things out.

Don't go getting hopes of overs like last years delusional Bulldogs fans.

If you end up getting maximum return from us for a nearly 30 year old ruck who doesn’t wanna stay and your club doesn’t require anymore, I’ll tip my hat to you guys.

 

[goyoucatters]

You guys gonna need the draft capital.

It evens things out.

Don't go getting hopes of overs like last years delusional Bulldogs fans.

If you end up getting maximum return from us for a nearly 30 year old ruck who doesn’t wanna stay and your club doesn’t require anymore, I’ll tip my hat to you guys.

It's fascinating how people go on thinking that it's all going to be different this time. When the reality is that he'll end up arriving at the Cattery for a 'cost' that doesn't seem quite right to either us or the Saints.

And the world will keep on turning.

 

[stavro#4]

Let’s say his next 2 years is around the 500k mark instead of the 800-900k
That’s still half a mill that you can put towards these other players without pushing other players like Windhager out.
Helps you up your offer
I understand you have to give to get a contracted player so I think it will be a first round pick and then something like a 3rd and you give us back a 5th rounder or something

I highly doubt it.

It’s just an assumption we can’t fit these deals in.

For example the last 3 years, we have drafted heavily. We still have atleast 16 of those players on our list. Phillipous contract extension doesn’t begin until 2027 - so remains on his rookie deal. They are in the 150k vicinity.

It’s been confirmed that we have been paying our full salary cap for the last few years and it’s capped out at 85% so we have had to use 10% for atleast the last 2 maybe 3 seasons to forward pay deals (Marshall fits in here)

2026, we get to use the 5% overpay. We also stop contributing a couple hundred k to Jack Billings deal at the end of this year.

So it means a tight cap on 2026, but in 2027 we have a significant number of best 22 players out of contract, headlined by Nas and Wilkie/sinclair etc.

Which is why we won’t NEED to trade Marshall for cap relief.

 

[stavro#4]

You guys gonna need the draft capital.

It evens things out.

Don't go getting hopes of overs like last years delusional Bulldogs fans.

If you end up getting maximum return from us for a nearly 30 year old ruck who doesn’t wanna stay and your club doesn’t require anymore, I’ll tip my hat to you guys.

We don’t need the draft capital at all. We have our full future hand and what starts at pick 7 - which we can trade with.

You’ll need to improve your first round pick. Don’t think there is anything delusional about that.

 

[calder_daddy]

I highly doubt it.

It’s just an assumption we can’t fit these deals in.

For example the last 3 years, we have drafted heavily. We still have atleast 16 of those players on our list. Phillipous contract extension doesn’t begin until 2027 - so remains on his rookie deal. They are in the 150k vicinity.

It’s been confirmed that we have been paying our full salary cap for the last few years and it’s capped out at 85% so we have had to use 10% for atleast the last 2 maybe 3 seasons to forward pay deals (Marshall fits in here)

2026, we get to use the 5% overpay. We also stop contributing a couple hundred k to Jack Billings deal at the end of this year.

So it means a tight cap on 2026, but in 2027 we have a significant number of best 22 players out of contract, headlined by Nas and Wilkie/sinclair etc.

Which is why we won’t NEED to trade Marshall for cap relief.

I just don’t think it’s as simple as you think it is.
Until the day comes when we know how much players are on we have absolutely no idea and as another poster has said you need draft capital, if you keep saying you have all your future picks then your clubs is doomed for another 10 years of pain.
Imagine giving up your 1st and 2nd rounders for the next 2 years and bring in some good footballers but not world beaters in SOS, Ryan and Leek

I think a better argument would be he’s under contract and you don’t want to lost him as he is the best back up plan ruck/fwd in the comp

 

[cats_09]

Let’s say his next 2 years is around the 500k mark instead of the 800-900k
That’s still half a mill that you can put towards these other players without pushing other players like Windhager out.
Helps you up your offer
I understand you have to give to get a contracted player so I think it will be a first round pick and then something like a 3rd and you give us back a 5th rounder or something

With NGA prospects Mellor & Rongdit this draft, I can see us not necessarily wanting to trade later picks this year as we may have to match for Mellor - Rongdit we could get as a rookie due to his ACL

If there's a swap of later picks, I wonder if we'd prefer a future 3rd out with a 4th rounder this year coming back

 

[D BRIDGE]

We don’t need the draft capital at all. We have our full future hand and what starts at pick 7 - which we can trade with.

You’ll need to improve your first round pick. Don’t think there is anything delusional about that.

Oh you wanna part with your best pick for Leek Aleer and a washed Liam Ryan… my bad.

Ok you don’t need a late R1 then.

 

[stavro#4]

I just don’t think it’s as simple as you think it is.
Until the day comes when we know how much players are on we have absolutely no idea and as another poster has said you need draft capital, if you keep saying you have all your future picks then your clubs is doomed for another 10 years of pain.
Imagine giving up your 1st and 2nd rounders for the next 2 years and bring in some good footballers but not world beaters in SOS, Ryan and Leek

I think a better argument would be he’s under contract and you don’t want to lost him as he is the best back up plan ruck/fwd in the comp

I’m only giving insight as per actual reports on our cap situation.

Which relates to, someone needs to fall out to fit them in. Which if it was true, wouldn’t be Marshall as per Cleary - he doesn’t have a lot of salary left on his 2 year deal.

I’m not for one second saying he doesn’t want to get to Geelong. I’m just saying your going to need to improve your first round pick

 

[stavro#4]

Oh you wanna part with your best pick for Leek Aleer and a washed Liam Ryan… my bad.

Ok you don’t need a late R1 then.

Twomey in gettable said Aleer wil get done for a late pick or even the Psd. Future second for Ryan.

Pick 7 potentially for Flanders.

 

[cats_09]

I highly doubt it.

It’s just an assumption we can’t fit these deals in.

For example the last 3 years, we have drafted heavily. We still have atleast 16 of those players on our list. Phillipous contract extension doesn’t begin until 2027 - so remains on his rookie deal. They are in the 150k vicinity.

It’s been confirmed that we have been paying our full salary cap for the last few years and it’s capped out at 85% so we have had to use 10% for atleast the last 2 maybe 3 seasons to forward pay deals (Marshall fits in here)

2026, we get to use the 5% overpay. We also stop contributing a couple hundred k to Jack Billings deal at the end of this year.

So it means a tight cap on 2026, but in 2027 we have a significant number of best 22 players out of contract, headlined by Nas and Wilkie/sinclair etc.

Which is why we won’t NEED to trade Marshall for cap relief.

That's not true - Phillipou was drafted in 2022 meaning that his draftee contract was only the mandatory 2yrs. He signed his first contract extension last year, with the news earlier this week his second contract extension - so he's already on a "big boy" contract which would exceed $150k and could be pushing $300k already

 

[stavro#4]

That's not true - Phillipou was drafted in 2022 meaning that his draftee contract was only the mandatory 2yrs. He signed his first contract extension last year, with the news earlier this week his second contract extension - so he's already on a "big boy" contract which would exceed $150k and could be pushing $300k already

Sure.

So still below average afl salary?

 

[D BRIDGE]

Twomey in gettable said Aleer wil get done for a late pick or even the Psd. Future second for Ryan.

Pick 7 potentially for Flanders.

I’d deadset spew up if my club gave up #7 for Flanders.

I’d be holding that pick and adding as much young talent as possible.

Giving up #7 + an R2 for a club lacking so much talent… yuk.

It makes perfect sense to me to move on Marshall to help for long term future.

You guys are topping up as if you lost the prelim by a goal two years in a row and just need a little boost to get over the top.

I’ll back in Geelong to make the correct call.

Not sure I can say the same about the desperate aints though.

 

[stavro#4]

I’d deadset spew up if my club gave up #7 for Flanders.

I’d be holding that pick and adding as much young talent as possible.

Giving up #7 + an R2 for a club lacking so much talent… yuk.

It makes perfect sense to me to move on Marshall to help for long term future.

You guys are topping up as if you lost the prelim by a goal two years in a row and just need a little boost to get over the top.

I’ll back in Geelong to make the correct call.

Not sure I can say the same about the desperate aints though.

Look, wasn’t here to get into a tit for tat argument.

Was posting the actual Cleary clip where he says Marshall doesn’t have a lot left on his deal. That’s a positive for our cap situation. Not a negative that needs to force him out

 

[cats_09]

We don’t need the draft capital at all. We have our full future hand and what starts at pick 7 - which we can trade with.

You’ll need to improve your first round pick. Don’t think there is anything delusional about that.

That's also what Bulldogs fans said last year about a trade involving our first for Smith

Mackie put our first on the table and said to call him when they were ready to deal - the final deal was -
Geelong out: Pick 17 (Bulldogs), Pick 38 (Carlton)
Geelong in: Bailey Smith (Bulldogs), Pick 45 (St Kilda)

Bulldogs out: Bailey Smith (Geelong), Jack Macrae (St Kilda)
Bulldogs in: Matthew Kennedy (Carlton), Pick 17 (Geelong)

St Kilda out: Pick 45 (Geelong)
St Kilda in: Jack Macrae (Bulldogs)

Carlton out: Matthew Kennedy (Bulldogs)
Carlton in: Pick 38 (Geelong)



If St Kilda is wanting more for Marshall than just Geelong's first pick, then likely need to get another club or two involved to see if there's the chance to exchange later picks

 

[cats_09]

Sure.

So still below average afl salary?

For all we know he could be pushing the $500k average salary - as salaries aren't readily published, we don't really know full details, but we know he's on more than draftee wages