Unsure what you mean here iDon. Are you saying you can't remember how to do the drill prescribed?
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Correct. I'm a visual guy. Need a video. His instruction made it look easy when doing it but I've had a hard time recreating what he said.
Did play with a single handicapper on the weekend and he suggested my grip wasn't neutral enough. So have had a look online at what is more neutral and going to add that in this week at the range.
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New, neutral grip (well self taught via youtube) started out as you expect. Was getting some funny jarring motion in my top hand but it came good and I would say it felt more consistent then prior. 8 irons and 6 irons were feeling nice. When i went out to the 4 iron was just not making the same contact but that would just be a lack of consistency with a new feel.
Driver though, was finally feeling some consistency. Now need to decide what is a controllable slice or am I hitting a fade? wasn't setting up for the slice was just slightly off centre and was coming back. (first 5 were horrible). will continue to work at it. Driver average was 254m and sent one 280m straight so can't complain on distance. just need to continue to work at it. Grouping was much much better then previous weeks at the range.
I was hitting from position K of "Albert Park Driving Range"
Driver though, was finally feeling some consistency. Now need to decide what is a controllable slice or am I hitting a fade? wasn't setting up for the slice was just slightly off centre and was coming back. (first 5 were horrible). will continue to work at it. Driver average was 254m and sent one 280m straight so can't complain on distance. just need to continue to work at it. Grouping was much much better then previous weeks at the range.
I was hitting from position K of "Albert Park Driving Range"
That's insane distance with range balls.
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Do they adjust after your session because they weren't showing as these numbers on the screen. Giving me 225-240 typically.
How much do you reckon range balls take off?
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Bloke was questioning it when I turned up and 20% for driver was the answer, 15% for 8 iron or there abouts
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Depends how new they are and how often they change them over. They can be terrible when they get super worn. I have seen balls start left then go right whilst going down then go up haha. It wouldn't make a huge difference when they are brand spanking new.
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Well I took a half day and decided to go to the range.
anything up to a 6 iron I was in a good rhythm and with some better, tight spacings. Still working on the additional change to the grip.
Whipped the 3 wood out of the bag and felt a heap more comfortable with it, and consistent. Driver was back to my old habits, was forgetting what I was learning but when I put that into practice it was nice.
Super frustrating this swing change, and the pro who gave me the lesson pulled up next to me, didn't even say hello or ask how its going, so making the right choice not going back to him. Going to try and get one away somewhere soon but its super busy at the moment.
Obligatory photo. minus the couple of snap hooks, was pretty happy with these 3w off the deck. Much more confident with this in hand then my driver at the moment, but we continue to work on the driver.
anything up to a 6 iron I was in a good rhythm and with some better, tight spacings. Still working on the additional change to the grip.
Whipped the 3 wood out of the bag and felt a heap more comfortable with it, and consistent. Driver was back to my old habits, was forgetting what I was learning but when I put that into practice it was nice.
Super frustrating this swing change, and the pro who gave me the lesson pulled up next to me, didn't even say hello or ask how its going, so making the right choice not going back to him. Going to try and get one away somewhere soon but its super busy at the moment.
Obligatory photo. minus the couple of snap hooks, was pretty happy with these 3w off the deck. Much more confident with this in hand then my driver at the moment, but we continue to work on the driver.
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Big lesson last night at the Golf Studio.
My Trackman numbers were horrendous - coming kilometres from the inside and with a closed clubface. Which would explain why I'm struggling to hit it on the planet at present.
Have a stack of drills aimed at getting on plane on the way down and not dropping the shaft inside.
Won't be an easy change but worked on it hard after the lesson and again tonight and again tomorrow night - and when I'm getting up from my desk have a club and a mirror for dry drill practice.
Theoretically mastering new moves ought be easier when you're working from home.
My Trackman numbers were horrendous - coming kilometres from the inside and with a closed clubface. Which would explain why I'm struggling to hit it on the planet at present.
Have a stack of drills aimed at getting on plane on the way down and not dropping the shaft inside.
Won't be an easy change but worked on it hard after the lesson and again tonight and again tomorrow night - and when I'm getting up from my desk have a club and a mirror for dry drill practice.
Theoretically mastering new moves ought be easier when you're working from home.
There's a growing number of these indoor simulator places popping up, think it will become more popular although it's generally a lot more expensive than your old fashioned 50 balls at a range.
How do you find the lessons/session indoors vs outdoors when it comes to working with a pro for lessons? I'm always a bit skeptical on the accuracy of the systems indoors into a screen vs the ball outdoors in real conditions.
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As you are aware I am struggling at the moment. I started hitting the ball well again in practice at home...regardless of where they were going i started to at least compress the ball again consistently and the only thing that I started doing was what I did for many years and that was focus on the a very specific part of the ball (almost a dimple). From where you address and look at the ball it would be 5 o'clock if the ball was a clock. And hit through that path. From in to out. And bingo I was at least striking it well. Dam getting tired of fats and thins...something I have never ever done. The result will be a draw...or a hook...or a block haha. But at least it is out there. Stupid game sometimes.
I find it perfect. It's 100% Trackman - and indoors takes all variables out. Ie no wind or anything to affect numbers.
And you never get cold/hot so the lesson is always comfortable.
Important to note my coach is also my friend and I trust that he's not fudging the machine settings.
Tough caper ballstriking isn't it?
The alternative I guess (to the tough road you and I continue to travel down) would be to avoid all lessons, turn your back on swing mechanics and just play with what we have. Accept we won't really end up playing the golf of our dreams, have good days when our timing is in and a lot of woeful days when we are hitting it thin and can't find the clubface.
Personally I love the challenge of trying to get better and revelling in the moments on course when it all clicks and you hit shots you did not believe you could execute.
That's what I've turned to with my golf.
Lessons are great if you have the time, money and commitment to work through the challenges/drills/dips of a swing change or mechanic change. But if you don't, they can do more harm than good in the short term.
Otherwise find a swing that works for you even if it's not technically or mechanically one that will reach your potential and just practice the hell out of the short game.
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Some of us will never be satisfied though...you included I suspect. You have improved out of sight. It has been lessons, practice, playing, researching online, tips from people you have played with and reading peoples thoughts here etc. But overall you are filling up that bucket of knowledge slowly but surely...that was empty when you first started. That was my attitude when I got my first handicap mid 20s age. I went down from 23 to 10 in one year by learning to get it to the edge of the green as best as I could but being really good at chipping and putting. I remember members couldn't believe I would aim OOB but knowing I would slice it back. But I could not get any better. I had to get lessons to get past this point.
Anyway enjoy the roller coaster ride you jumped on!
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Yeah I really love the challenge too. Sometimes I much prefer the practice...working on something in the net than getting out and playing. Last lesson with Rohan he was getting me to turn just before impact and straighten the left leg earlier...and stop pretending to be turning and finishing nicely...haha. He compared on the pc my short, fat, old little frame to that of tiger in his hey day mid 20s...just post impact (after I was working on it in the lesson) and he was saying he can't really see any difference...except his head stayed focussing on the divot a bit longer...but body positions were in much the same spots. Fair to say I was walking around a tad erect for a few days. Better than Viagra!
Dam frustrating as consistency has dropped and I am playing way worse on course.
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Do you think everyone should aim for draws? Does that equal the best technique?
Jack Nicklaus hit a fade.
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Fantastic. Just call me iJack
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Nope...a mini fade is probably best. Draw bad shots are death IMO. The better off your bad shots are the better you will score.
My old man use to always say “you can talk to a fade, a hook won’t listen”.
Almost no one hits a draw anymore at the elite level. I grew up in Freo in the 90's and the idea of a high fade was repulsive. If the ball got up in the air the seabreeze would take it. Greg Norman was king and the draw was in. In the last 6 months I've taken to hitting a fade and I've never driven better.
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Neither, the best shot is SIMPLY this.
The one you can repeat and results are predictable
Fade, Draw , Straight
Doesn't matter 2 hoots
Just be consistent
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I'll suggest that first sentence is totally wrong, plenty hit draws by choice
