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Historical rape allegation against the Attorney-General Christian Porter
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They probably didn't have to discuss it anywhere outside of NSW Police for word to reach Porter's ears.
NSW Police Commissioner Mick Fuller held a "high level" discussion with his deputy about the historical rape allegation against Christian Porter before the complainant took her own life.
Speaking at a budget estimates hearing in NSW Parliament, Commissioner Fuller said the allegation, and subsequent investigation, was not discussed outside of the NSW Police.
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NSW Police Commissioner Mick Fuller held a "high level" discussion with his deputy about the historical rape allegation against Christian Porter before the complainant took her own life.
Speaking at a budget estimates hearing in NSW Parliament, Commissioner Fuller said the allegation, and subsequent investigation, was not discussed outside of the NSW Police.
NSW top cop held 'high-level' Christian Porter talks
NSW Police Commissioner Mick Fuller reveals he had "high-level discussions" with his deputy David Hudson about the rape allegations against Attorney-General Christian Porter.
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You'd think that it would have triggered a formal potential National Security issue alert to someone(s), or an update to a known issue alert.
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And flag her file.
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Having been touted as a potential PM from her teenage years, and frequenting with a range of future political and business leaders in her earlier years, there might have been quite a few files open on her any one time.
(likely including a Murdoch Media dirt file).
Her feminist activism (revealed today in Crikey) might have would also had her flagged as an activist.
Kate was bright, brilliant and funny. She should not be defined by her alleged rape
Friends thought Kate would become the first female prime minister of Australia. She was a loyal, feisty and honest person adored by her mates.
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'Ultimately she decided to accept a placement at University of New South Wales studying history of ideas. There she joined the Women on Campus Council, now known as the SRC Women’s Collective.
“Her feminism was very much lived by example,” Samuel said.
Although Kate wasn’t preachy about feminism, he said, she would point out failings in people who didn’t practise what they preached, and “made her views known if she thought somebody was falling short of the mark”.
“She could put you in your place without breaking a sweat.”'
Interestingly, Crikey reports that her father was ex-military. (without stating whether UK or Australian military - or both)
'Kate was born in the UK and moved to Adelaide as a young child. She came from what friends describe as a “well-to-do family” with an ex-military father who had high expectations of his daughter.'
Her Linkedin profile (no longer available at all, like it was 2 weeks ago) reveals that for 8 years, she was schooled in Canberra (1974-1982) at a Government International School. Probably connected to one of her parents employment.
Its so difficult to read anything about this tragedy with out the source material having its agenda. In this case most
of it strongly alluding to Porters guilt.
I naturally want to side with the victim Kate here.
Its hard not to when you hear of her horrific struggles and her death.
Herne Hill Hammer imo very wisely bought up the Lindy Chamberlian case. I've also known someone in my
circle who was at the wrong end of "mob guilt ".
These days I'm more open in trying to challenge my preconceived ideas and thoughts.
The below article was in Saturdays Australian ( I don't think its paywalled as I could pull it up. )
Her statement and description of the incident is a tough read. However it does show you how the majority of
media have excluded parts of Kate's story that do not fit their narrative.
I admit i have some sort of visceral dislike for Porter, however more importantly the take away from this article, there are some concerns and doubts about what Porter has been alleged to of done.
www.theaustralian.com.au
of it strongly alluding to Porters guilt.
I naturally want to side with the victim Kate here.
Its hard not to when you hear of her horrific struggles and her death.
Herne Hill Hammer imo very wisely bought up the Lindy Chamberlian case. I've also known someone in my
circle who was at the wrong end of "mob guilt ".
These days I'm more open in trying to challenge my preconceived ideas and thoughts.
The below article was in Saturdays Australian ( I don't think its paywalled as I could pull it up. )
Her statement and description of the incident is a tough read. However it does show you how the majority of
media have excluded parts of Kate's story that do not fit their narrative.
I admit i have some sort of visceral dislike for Porter, however more importantly the take away from this article, there are some concerns and doubts about what Porter has been alleged to of done.
NoCookies | The Australian
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Its so difficult to read anything about this tragedy with out the source material having its agenda. In this case most
of it strongly alluding to Porters guilt.
I naturally want to side with the victim Kate here.
Its hard not to when you hear of her horrific struggles and her death.
Herne Hill Hammer imo very wisely bought up the Lindy Chamberlian case. I've also known someone in my
circle who was at the wrong end of "mob guilt ".
These days I'm more open in trying to challenge my preconceived ideas and thoughts.
The below article was in Saturdays Australian ( I don't think its paywalled as I could pull it up. )
Her statement and description of the incident is a tough read. However it does show you how the majority of
media have excluded parts of Kate's story that do not fit their narrative.
I admit i have some sort of visceral dislike for Porter, however more importantly the take away from this article, there are some concerns and doubts about what Porter has been alleged to of done.
NoCookies | The Australian
Unfortunately there's a reason almost everything you read alludes to his guilt. He most likely did it. There's no other probable, plausible reason that Katharine made the allegations.
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Admittedly I haven't read it yet. I get a party wall for The Australian. If they've published it no doubt we'll all be able to read it soon enough. I hope there's content that proves me wrong. Like most Australians I don't want to believe that our A-G is guilty of such a heinous crime.
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Looks like it might have been removed Jammer and I'm not surprised to see it gone, maybe The Press Council has already intervened. Yes, it was that bad.
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No it's still there.
Here's the correct link
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Here's a screenshot of the title.
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The last sentence of the Van Olsenen / Albrechtsen Porter fan club piece of work on Friday, sees them as pseudo prosecutors, and readers as the jury.
www.theaustralian.com.au
'The question readers might now want to ask themselves is does Kate’s dossier raise doubts about what has been alleged against Porter?'
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We'll see what happens tomorrow then.
No it's still there.
Here's the correct link
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Here's a screenshot of the title.
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We'll see what happens tomorrow then.
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Firefox is really handy for reading articles like that.
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The Courier-Mail is running an article is running an article that says Christian Porter is suing the ABC for defamation. The AG has taken aim at Louise Milligan and is prepared to take the stand an answer allegations under oath.
The article is paywalled.
The article is paywalled.
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Doubts are raised over the allegations against MP Christian Porter
A shattered Mr Porter said he can't remember when asked by a journalist if he had: 'been out to dinner, went dancing at the Hard Rock Café, and then walked the alleged victim back to her room'.
Doubts raised over timeline of Porter rape allegation
Questions asked at a press conference have cast doubt over the timeline of allegations levelled against senior government minister Christian Porter. Journalists raised a series of events with the Attorney-General, appearing to reference a letter of complaint sent by the alleged victim to the...
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It took him a few weeks but he got there. Any way the ABC can release in court what they held back in order to prove they weren't trying to defame him?
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I hope so but IMO it likely won't get to court, this is Porter trying to save face. Just waiting to see if he steps down.
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Highest head of law in government suing the state broadcaster - what a time to be alive.
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The Age reports:
Christian Porter launches defamation action against the ABC
By Michaela Whitbourn
Attorney-General Christian Porter has launched Federal Court defamation proceedings against the ABC over an online article that he alleges portrays him as the perpetrator of a “brutal” rape that contributed to a woman taking her own life. The lawsuit is expected to put an end to calls for a public inquiry into his fitness to remain in office because a trial would ventilate many of the same issues before a judge, and involve the same witnesses.
In a statement of claim lodged on Monday, lawyers for Mr Porter, who is on medical leave, seek damages, including aggravated damages, for a February 26 article published on the ABC’s website, headlined “Scott Morrison, senators and AFP told of historical rape allegation against Cabinet Minister”.
ABC journalist Louise Milligan, who broke the story, is also named as a party to the lawsuit.
Mr Porter, who is not named in the ABC article, has retained a trio of high-powered lawyers, including Sydney barristers Bret Walker, SC, and Sue Chrysanthou, SC, and solicitor Rebekah Giles.
“Over the last few weeks, the Attorney-General has been subjected to trial by media without regard to the presumption of innocence or the rules of evidence and without any proper disclosure of the material said to support the untrue allegations,” Ms Giles said in a statement on Monday.
“The trial by media should now end with the commencement of these proceedings.”
Ms Giles said “the claims made by the ABC and Ms Milligan will be determined in a court in a procedurally fair process”. She foreshadowed that Mr Porter would give evidence in the proceedings.
Ms Chrysanthou and Ms Giles have acted successfully for a series of high-profile defamation plaintiffs, many of them women, including Greens Senator Sarah Hanson-Young against former Liberal Democratic Party senator David Leyonhjelm.
The statement of claim alleges the ABC article conveys a series of false and defamatory claims about Mr Porter, including that he “brutally raped a 16-year-old girl in 1988”, when he was 17, and that this contributed to her taking her own life.
They say the article also conveys that Mr Porter was “reasonably suspected by police” of rape, warranting criminal charges being brought against him, and there were “reasonable grounds for suspecting” both that he committed the crime and that it “contributed to [the woman] taking her own life”.
Mr Porter has strenuously denied allegations made by a woman that he raped her during a debating tournament in Sydney in 1988. The woman took her own life last year, after telling NSW Police that she did not wish to pursue her complaint.
Mr Porter’s lawyers say the Attorney-General was readily identifiable as the unnamed cabinet minister in the ABC’s online story, and his name was “trending prominently on Twitter” after it was published. He was “obliged” to identify himself on March 3, they say.
The statement of claim says factors that supported the identification of Mr Porter as the subject of the report included a Four Corners broadcast in November last year that presented Mr Porter as “a sexist and misogynist”.
The lawyers also say that only six male members of cabinet were about the same age as the woman in 1988 and, of those, only Mr Porter and two others were senior cabinet ministers. A photo caption in the article said the allegation involved a senior minister. On the day the article was published, visits to Mr Porter’s Facebook page and website “increased significantly”, the statement of claim says. Mr Porter’s lawyers argue the ABC and Milligan should pay aggravated damages, which are awarded in cases where a party’s conduct is considered “improper, unjustifiable or lacking in bona fides”, because they knew Mr Porter was readily identifiable as the subject of the article and “would ultimately be compelled to publicly respond”.
They say the ABC and Milligan also knew the allegations “could never be proved in any criminal or civil proceeding” but proceeded anyway “to ensure that he was publicly condemned and disgraced in the absence of any finding against him”.
Ms Giles, principal director of law firm Company (Giles), said that “if the ABC and Ms Milligan wish to argue the truth of the allegations, they can do so in these proceedings”. The ABC will file a defence to the proceedings at a later date. It is not yet known if the broadcaster will seek to rely on the defence of truth, which would effectively result in a rape trial being held in the context of a civil case.
In defamation cases, the standard of proof is the balance of probabilities, rather than the higher criminal standard of beyond reasonable doubt, but it is still a high bar when the allegations are serious.
As is common in many cases involving media outlets, it is likely the ABC will argue the article does not convey the very serious imputations of guilt or suspicion alleged by Mr Porter, but that it reported he was the subject of an allegation.
The judge is the final arbiter of what a publication says.
In recent days, two-thirds of Mr Porter’s legal team - Ms Chrysanthou and Ms Giles - acted for former Liberal staffer Brittany Higgins, who has alleged she was raped by a former staffer in the office of Defence Minister Linda Reynolds.
Senator Reynolds apologised unreservedly to Ms Higgins last week and agreed to pay damages after being caught out telling staff Ms Higgins was a “lying cow”. Senator Reynolds, who is on medical leave, has maintained she did not make the comment about the rape allegation but Ms Higgins’ account of her handling of the complaint.
Ms Chrysanthou also acted for actor Geoffrey Rush in his successful defamation suit against The Daily Telegraph, which resulted in a record $2.9 million payout.
Christian Porter launches defamation action against the ABC
By Michaela Whitbourn
Attorney-General Christian Porter has launched Federal Court defamation proceedings against the ABC over an online article that he alleges portrays him as the perpetrator of a “brutal” rape that contributed to a woman taking her own life. The lawsuit is expected to put an end to calls for a public inquiry into his fitness to remain in office because a trial would ventilate many of the same issues before a judge, and involve the same witnesses.
In a statement of claim lodged on Monday, lawyers for Mr Porter, who is on medical leave, seek damages, including aggravated damages, for a February 26 article published on the ABC’s website, headlined “Scott Morrison, senators and AFP told of historical rape allegation against Cabinet Minister”.
ABC journalist Louise Milligan, who broke the story, is also named as a party to the lawsuit.
Mr Porter, who is not named in the ABC article, has retained a trio of high-powered lawyers, including Sydney barristers Bret Walker, SC, and Sue Chrysanthou, SC, and solicitor Rebekah Giles.
“Over the last few weeks, the Attorney-General has been subjected to trial by media without regard to the presumption of innocence or the rules of evidence and without any proper disclosure of the material said to support the untrue allegations,” Ms Giles said in a statement on Monday.
“The trial by media should now end with the commencement of these proceedings.”
Ms Giles said “the claims made by the ABC and Ms Milligan will be determined in a court in a procedurally fair process”. She foreshadowed that Mr Porter would give evidence in the proceedings.
Ms Chrysanthou and Ms Giles have acted successfully for a series of high-profile defamation plaintiffs, many of them women, including Greens Senator Sarah Hanson-Young against former Liberal Democratic Party senator David Leyonhjelm.
The statement of claim alleges the ABC article conveys a series of false and defamatory claims about Mr Porter, including that he “brutally raped a 16-year-old girl in 1988”, when he was 17, and that this contributed to her taking her own life.
They say the article also conveys that Mr Porter was “reasonably suspected by police” of rape, warranting criminal charges being brought against him, and there were “reasonable grounds for suspecting” both that he committed the crime and that it “contributed to [the woman] taking her own life”.
Mr Porter has strenuously denied allegations made by a woman that he raped her during a debating tournament in Sydney in 1988. The woman took her own life last year, after telling NSW Police that she did not wish to pursue her complaint.
Mr Porter’s lawyers say the Attorney-General was readily identifiable as the unnamed cabinet minister in the ABC’s online story, and his name was “trending prominently on Twitter” after it was published. He was “obliged” to identify himself on March 3, they say.
The statement of claim says factors that supported the identification of Mr Porter as the subject of the report included a Four Corners broadcast in November last year that presented Mr Porter as “a sexist and misogynist”.
The lawyers also say that only six male members of cabinet were about the same age as the woman in 1988 and, of those, only Mr Porter and two others were senior cabinet ministers. A photo caption in the article said the allegation involved a senior minister. On the day the article was published, visits to Mr Porter’s Facebook page and website “increased significantly”, the statement of claim says. Mr Porter’s lawyers argue the ABC and Milligan should pay aggravated damages, which are awarded in cases where a party’s conduct is considered “improper, unjustifiable or lacking in bona fides”, because they knew Mr Porter was readily identifiable as the subject of the article and “would ultimately be compelled to publicly respond”.
They say the ABC and Milligan also knew the allegations “could never be proved in any criminal or civil proceeding” but proceeded anyway “to ensure that he was publicly condemned and disgraced in the absence of any finding against him”.
Ms Giles, principal director of law firm Company (Giles), said that “if the ABC and Ms Milligan wish to argue the truth of the allegations, they can do so in these proceedings”. The ABC will file a defence to the proceedings at a later date. It is not yet known if the broadcaster will seek to rely on the defence of truth, which would effectively result in a rape trial being held in the context of a civil case.
In defamation cases, the standard of proof is the balance of probabilities, rather than the higher criminal standard of beyond reasonable doubt, but it is still a high bar when the allegations are serious.
As is common in many cases involving media outlets, it is likely the ABC will argue the article does not convey the very serious imputations of guilt or suspicion alleged by Mr Porter, but that it reported he was the subject of an allegation.
The judge is the final arbiter of what a publication says.
In recent days, two-thirds of Mr Porter’s legal team - Ms Chrysanthou and Ms Giles - acted for former Liberal staffer Brittany Higgins, who has alleged she was raped by a former staffer in the office of Defence Minister Linda Reynolds.
Senator Reynolds apologised unreservedly to Ms Higgins last week and agreed to pay damages after being caught out telling staff Ms Higgins was a “lying cow”. Senator Reynolds, who is on medical leave, has maintained she did not make the comment about the rape allegation but Ms Higgins’ account of her handling of the complaint.
Ms Chrysanthou also acted for actor Geoffrey Rush in his successful defamation suit against The Daily Telegraph, which resulted in a record $2.9 million payout.
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IMO, for the long term rebuilding of the WA State Liberal Party, Porter will need to sever his ties with both the WA State and Federal Liberal Parties.
You comfortable with 'he most likely did it' ?
