Hamling isn't far off it, especially his legs. Although looks like he has added a bit over the offseason. Fair way to go though i'd think.
Review How do you rate our draft?
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In the most convoluted way it turned out perfect.
We always desperately needed some big arse defenders, it is by far our biggest and maybe our only weakness (depending on whether Roughy, Minson or Campbell can lift). Many of us were disappointed that we couldn't get Carlisle. Some of us had thought it was a no brainer done deal. As it turns out Carlisle has some serious behavioural issues. Fortunately for us the saints didn't care, they wanted a key defender and were determined to get Carlisle. Had the Saints not got their man, there was every chance they would have gone for Kieran Collins themselves.
At the end of the trade period, I and others were despairing that we had failed to rectify our key defensive weakness, which with the advent of our fire sale of Talia was now even a bigger hole.
I spat the dummy, because I thought even if we recruited some quality key defenders, I felt they would require 2-3 years of development before they could be of real value and our top 6 are going to be firing during that period and would be let down by a gapping hole in our defence.
To then pick up 2 guys, Adams & Collins, who are physically mature, who also possess a range of elite qualities superior to either Talia or Roberts is astounding. We have clutched victory from the jaws of defeat. Mark my words, even in 2016, Roberts will have to produce his best consistently to stay ahead of either of these two beasts. Yes they may take a little bit time to adjust but they have both have elite qualities.
So in my mind, if one of either Adams or Collins becomes an A grader - then this draft rates A+ anything more is a bonus. If neither than you still have to give the recruiting team credit for giving us a great shot at rectifying a dire need.
We always desperately needed some big arse defenders, it is by far our biggest and maybe our only weakness (depending on whether Roughy, Minson or Campbell can lift). Many of us were disappointed that we couldn't get Carlisle. Some of us had thought it was a no brainer done deal. As it turns out Carlisle has some serious behavioural issues. Fortunately for us the saints didn't care, they wanted a key defender and were determined to get Carlisle. Had the Saints not got their man, there was every chance they would have gone for Kieran Collins themselves.
At the end of the trade period, I and others were despairing that we had failed to rectify our key defensive weakness, which with the advent of our fire sale of Talia was now even a bigger hole.
I spat the dummy, because I thought even if we recruited some quality key defenders, I felt they would require 2-3 years of development before they could be of real value and our top 6 are going to be firing during that period and would be let down by a gapping hole in our defence.
To then pick up 2 guys, Adams & Collins, who are physically mature, who also possess a range of elite qualities superior to either Talia or Roberts is astounding. We have clutched victory from the jaws of defeat. Mark my words, even in 2016, Roberts will have to produce his best consistently to stay ahead of either of these two beasts. Yes they may take a little bit time to adjust but they have both have elite qualities.
So in my mind, if one of either Adams or Collins becomes an A grader - then this draft rates A+ anything more is a bonus. If neither than you still have to give the recruiting team credit for giving us a great shot at rectifying a dire need.
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No-one has a crystal ball. But...if you don't buy a tall ticket you can never win the tall raffle.
Many are pleased we bought a tall ticket.
Let's hope we win the raffle!!
On top of all that, physically these 2 guys really aren't that far behind guys that we could have drafted last year (Marchbank, Lever, Durdin) or even the year before (Gardiner). Obviously there are a lot of other areas they will need to get up to speed with, but physicality is probably the most common factor that slows a kpp's development.
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This makes interesting reading
You make interesting reading!
Sorry I'm in a combative mood tonight...I need to get off Facebook and Twitter .
Williams - Yep, gonna be a good player for a long time
Collins - Somewhat unknown. Tough initiation. Looked a little slow.
Dunkley - A+, Premiership rockstar. Look at his frame, he will be an inside monster. Had a great finals series.
Adams: A brilliant contributor when he was on the park. Let's home he finds a Melbourne version of Miranda Kerr this year, otherwise he's heading back to Perth.
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I'd be disappointed if you weren't combative. I think you're twitter account would be something to behold.
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Its amazing looking back at these 2 draft/trade periods' and seeing that 7 guys who have come in have already won a premiership.
If you look at our bookends that I mentioned, you would take 3 out of 5 players being successful every day of the week.
Ok we have lost Hamling, but he helped us gain another pick in the top 30 and walks away as a premiership hero.
Adams may end up leaving, but if he stays fit he could be a big reason for us going back to back.
Both Boyd and cordy have added to their game, in the ruck and up forward. As for Collins seems to be impressing this offseason to get fitter.
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Itd be nice if Adams signed a contract extension next year even if he does request a trade at some point. Would at least allow us to get what he is worth at the trade table: a first rounder.
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Seriously the people that voted A are so laughable its beyond a joke.
We did donuts. Try and twist and pretend we ended up on top but if you think moving up a few picks and keeping Jong is a success then you truly are all still drunk from the GF.
Premiership team and we did bubcus is at best a C and in my opinion a fail.
Seriously the people that voted A are so laughable its beyond a joke.
We did donuts. Try and twist and pretend we ended up on top but if you think moving up a few picks and keeping Jong is a success then you truly are all still drunk from the GF.
Premiership team and we did bubcus is at best a C and in my opinion a fail.
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This thread is about the 2015 draft
Then someone put 2015 up there for dumbasses like me
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That fact the draft hasn't happened yet this year might of given it away too...
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Dude come on....
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Even if Collins doesn't pan out which he definitely still could;
Williams - Looks like he'll be a very very classy footballer
Adams - Terrific Choice. Pity about the injuries and homesickness but he can get through that. Key defender if he stays.
Dunkley - Rising Star nominee, premiership player, amazing little snap at goal out of a pack, and solid overhead. Another amazing pick.
Collins - Drafted a position of need. Intriguing prospect. Definitely still a slow burner.
A+ Draft for where we picked. I'd like a word with someone who thinks otherwise.
Williams - Looks like he'll be a very very classy footballer
Adams - Terrific Choice. Pity about the injuries and homesickness but he can get through that. Key defender if he stays.
Dunkley - Rising Star nominee, premiership player, amazing little snap at goal out of a pack, and solid overhead. Another amazing pick.
Collins - Drafted a position of need. Intriguing prospect. Definitely still a slow burner.
A+ Draft for where we picked. I'd like a word with someone who thinks otherwise.
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Not sure if I commented on this last year, if I did I hope i was prophetic enough to say we nailed it. Lol.
Collins is still a bit unknown, but shows enough to be granted the time KP prospect can take. Suffers from the fact he looks 10 years older than he is and is built like brick shizenhuaser, when he's just a kid in his first year.
Collins is still a bit unknown, but shows enough to be granted the time KP prospect can take. Suffers from the fact he looks 10 years older than he is and is built like brick shizenhuaser, when he's just a kid in his first year.
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With a December birthday if I'm not mistaken
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We seem to pick late birthday kids.. meaning Nov and Dec draftees.
Collins is going to be a gun guys already dropped another 5kg of his already impressive frame and put on a heap off mussel
Williams is just class
Adams if we can get him settled will be all Australian next year
Dunkley well what do you say?? kid was back training on the Wednesday after the grand final just a delight for me we somehow got him..
Collins is going to be a gun guys already dropped another 5kg of his already impressive frame and put on a heap off mussel
Williams is just class
Adams if we can get him settled will be all Australian next year
Dunkley well what do you say?? kid was back training on the Wednesday after the grand final just a delight for me we somehow got him..
Apart from the part about Gach Nyuon, he's already been delisted. Thank heavens for Roughead.
