How impressive are Collingwood?

[Barnzy]

Collingwood are always a threat because no team in the comp can match the midfield trio of Pendlebury, Beams and Swan. Their success will largely come down to forward line play and backline stability.

 

[Tarkyn_24]

youre embarrassing yourself here. Sydney would demolish you in their current form

dont get carried away because you comfortably beat a poor side with half your percentage

I never said they wouldn't. But the fact remains its patronising to go on about Sydney beng under strength, because every side is at some stage.

You can only beat the opposition put in front of you. In Sydney's case, when we played them they weren't good enough.

 

[SuperSub17]

he phrased his post in present-tense, implying that Collingwood could actually beat Sydney right now.
in any case, beating Sydney in the 2nd round by a lesser margin than GWS the round before is nothing to brag about

Don't suppose Sydney had an interstate advantage or anything

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

I never said they wouldn't. But the fact remains its patronising to go on about Sydney beng under strength, because every side is at some stage.

You can only beat the opposition put in front of you. In Sydney's case, when we played them they weren't good enough.

I will tell you something even in the form we are in i would not want to play you next week, infact if we can avoid you for the rest of the season that would suit me just fine!

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Don't suppose Sydney had an interstate advantage or anything

Hey its at ANZ!

 

[WWSD]

Collingwood are always a threat because no team in the comp can match the midfield trio of Pendlebury, Beams and Swan. Their success will largely come down to forward line play and backline stability.

Have you seen Hawthorn vs Collingwood recently? 137,138,135,145,119. That's our scores over the last five games against the Pies.

 

[McOrist]

We beat collingwood two weeks ago.

Enough said.

Yes, but is was the biggest night in South Australian sporting history.
Thanks Bruce.

 

[millsy29gopies]

youre embarrassing yourself here. Sydney would demolish you in their current form

dont get carried away because you comfortably beat a poor side with half your percentage

OK Computer

 

[SuperSub17]

Have you seen Hawthorn vs Collingwood recently? 137,138,135,145,119. That's our scores over the last five games against the Pies.

Don't know how that relates to Swan, Beams and Pendlebury.

 

[FuManchu]

I wouldn't be basing anything on tonight. St Kilda coughed it up too much to get a real indication of how much Collingwood won the hard ball. Class won out, but I can't say grit won it.

 

[WWSD]

Don't know how that relates to Swan, Beams and Pendlebury.

He was saying no team can match Collingwood in the midfield. Well Hawthorn have matched Collingwood in that department and beat them comprehensively.

 

[Looney]

With our current form, we will not beat the other top four teams. You can't judge a team on one good quarter.

 

[SuperSub17]

He was saying no team can match Collingwood in the midfield. Well Hawthorn have matched Collingwood in that department and beat them comprehensively.

I wouldn't say that either. Round 17 2012 Swan had 49 touches and Beams had 35 and 4 goals. Midfield has never been the problem - we've kicked 90 points just about each time as well.

Backline on the other hand...

 

[dickballsack]

youre embarrassing yourself here. Sydney would demolish you in their current form

dont get carried away because you comfortably beat a poor side with half your percentage

Why is he embarrassing himself? He's stating a fact and you're posing a hypothetical.

 

[Gone Critical]

The Sydney of round 2 and the May version are completely different teams.

Yeah true but when we are on the bottom and Sydney near the top they struggle against us. Just one of those funny things. We struggle against the Hawks. Sydney have had very few victories against us since 2005 and we play them in Sydney every year.

 

[Jewbacca]

I wouldn't say that either. Round 17 2012 Swan had 49 touches and Beams had 35 and 4 goals. Midfield has never been the problem - we've kicked 90 points just about each time as well.

Backline on the other hand...

That's kind of the point. you can either match offense with defense or more offense. Pendlebury, and Swan have played all of the last 5 and beams has only missed one. Swan is usually left loose and beams hasn't hurt enough to be reigned in. unfortunately it's the reverse Geelong and the one we'd exchange them all for went the pies way and ruined my holiday.

 

[OK Computer]

Why is he embarrassing himself? He's stating a fact and you're posing a hypothetical.

replying to a post stating that theyre not contenders until they beat a formidable team with "well we beat sydney in round 2" has nothing to do with facts. he is avoiding the question; sydney were not a formidable team in round 2

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Yeah true but when we are on the bottom and Sydney near the top they struggle against us. Just one of those funny things. We struggle against the Hawks. Sydney have had very few victories against us since 2005 and we play them in Sydney every year.

2005 our flag year we beat you by one point and you finished last lol.

 

[bugalugs213]

Sydney scariest performance since they beat Adelaide last year. Or was it when Freo beat Sydney in the prelim?Maybe when Sydney flogged 9th placed carlton in their only final win last year? or was it when Port beat hawthorn? i just cant keep up so many good teams in the league. I just hope the hawks can makes the finals at least to farewell their older brigade.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Sydney scariest performance since they beat Adelaide last year. Or was it when Freo beat Sydney in the prelim?Maybe when Sydney flogged 9th placed carlton in their only final win last year? or was it when Port beat hawthorn? i just cant keep up so many good teams in the league. I just hope the hawks can makes the finals at least to farewell their older brigade.

Hawthorn were pretty scary in round 3.

 

[dickballsack]

I wouldn't say that either. Round 17 2012 Swan had 49 touches and Beams had 35 and 4 goals. Midfield has never been the problem - we've kicked 90 points just about each time as well.

Backline on the other hand...

It's neither of that, talent has never been the issue for he pies in the last few years it's been talented players abiding by game plans which is where the hawks and swans succeed ( and port is year). The hawks in particular religiously stick to the game plan regardless of their own games and talents , swans just as good. Where as when the pies won a flag and all of a sudden some of them thought they were rock stars and did their own thing that's why the club did the right thing and got rid of shaw, jolly, krak ( and Thomas who decided that the pies doctors advice to operate was wrong and instead went to bali surfing).

 

[Fadge]

replying to a post stating that theyre not contenders until they beat a formidable team with "well we beat sydney in round 2" has nothing to do with facts. he is avoiding the question; sydney were not a formidable team in round 2

It just goes to show a lot can change in nine weeks, doesn't it?

How far away are the finals again?

 

[Righteo]

Sydney scariest performance since they beat Adelaide last year. Or was it when Freo beat Sydney in the prelim?Maybe when Sydney flogged 9th placed carlton in their only final win last year? or was it when Port beat hawthorn? i just cant keep up so many good teams in the league. I just hope the hawks can makes the finals at least to farewell their older brigade.

Well said, I'm sick of how under-appreciated Hawthorn are by the media.

 

[Ant85]

Anything can happen between now and the finals, as the injuries to Hawthorn in the last few weeks have shown.

The same can happen to Sydney, Collingwood, Port.

Most Pies fans have maintained that we won't win the flag this year, as we're still in development-mode, but finishing top 4 will certainly exceed our pass mark.

The gap between our young and experienced players still needs to be bridged, and the young players will be stretched by the end of the year.

The flag is Sydney's to lose, courtesy of COLA. It would be an undeserved flag, its forward line makes a mockery of the AFL and is a kick in the guts to the teams who have spent years developing their lists fairly.

 

[Lockyer24]

Pies still lacking a lot of polish unfortunately