How many players will play for Australia this summer?

[Holden Hillbilly]

1st test v SAF: 11 Warner S Marsh Khawaja Smith Voges M Marsh Neville Starc Siddle Hazelwood Lyon
2nd Test add 3 Burns Ferguson Mennie
3rd Test add 5 Renshaw Handscom Maddinson Wade Bird

So 19 there

1st test v Pakistan - nil
2nd Test - nil
3rd Test - add 2 Cartwright O'Keefe

21 players in tests.

ODI v NZ

1st add 5 Finch Bailey Head Cummins Zampa
2nd add 1 Faulkner
3rd nil

ODI v Pakistan

1st add 3 Lynn Maxwell Stanlake
2nd nil
3rd nil
4th nil
5th nil

Another 9 in ODIs.

So 30 players before we play in NZ and then the three 20/20 matches whilst 16 players in India.

Incredible.

We could have 40 players by the end of the summer.

 

[STFU Donnie]

Bloody Romulan!

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

Stoinis and Heazlett are 2 possible new players to play in NZ.

 

[The_Reaper]

As far as I am aware here is a list of every player still in the Australian domestic system who has represented Australia at international level at some point sorted out by the state they are currently contracted + Big Bash only players.

New South Wales

#  Player            Tests ODIs T20Is
1. Nathan Lyon          63   13     1
2. David Warner         60   93    63
3. Steve Smith          50   95    30
4. Mitchell Starc       34   63    22
5. Josh Hazlewood       26   33     7
6. Ed Cowan             18    0     0
7. Peter Nevill         17    0     9
8. Doug Bollinger       12   39     9
9. Moises Henriques      4    8     6
10.Steve O'Keefe         4    0     7
11.Nic Maddinson         3    0     2
12.Trent Copeland        3    0     0
13.Pat Cummins           1   26    15
14.Gurinder Sandhu       0    2     0
15.Sean Abbott           0    1     3
16.Ben Rohrer            0    0     1

Queensland

#  Player            Tests ODIs T20Is
1. Usman Khawaja        23   18     9
2. Joe Burns            13    6     0
3. Mat Renshaw           4    0     0
4. Peter George          1    0     0
5. Peter Forrest         0   15     0
6. Ben Cutting           0    4     4
7. Billy Stanlake        0    2     0
8. Chris Lynn            0    1     5
9. Nathan Reardon        0    0     2

South Australia

#  Player            Tests ODIs T20Is
1. Callum Ferguson       1   30     3
2. Joe Mennie            1    2     0
3. Adam Zampa            0   21     8
4. Travis Head           0   20     4
5. Kane Richardson       0   12     3
6. Dan Worrall           0    3     0[code]

Tasmania  
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#  Player            Tests ODIs T20Is
1. Jackson Bird          8    0     0
2. George Bailey         5   90    29
3. Xavier Doherty        4   60    11
4. Tim Paine             4   26     5
5. Alex Doolan           4    0     0
6. James Faulkner        1   65    21
7. Cameron Boyce         0    0     7
8. Ben Dunk              0    0     3

Victoria

#  Player            Tests ODIs T20Is
1. Peter Siddle         62   17     2
2. James Pattinson      17   15     4
3. Matthew Wade         16   87    26
4. Cameron White         4   88    47
5. Peter Handscomb       4    3     0
6. Glenn Maxwell         3   72    36
7. Michael Beer          2    0     0
8. Jon Holland           2    0     0
9. Rob Quiney            2    0     0
10.John Hastings         1   28     9
11.Aaron Finch           0   77    28
12.Dan Christian         0   19    15
13.Scott Boland          0   14     3
14.Chris Tremain         0    4     0
15.Fawad Ahmed           0    3     2
16.Marcus Stoinis        0    1     1
17.James Muirhead        0    0     5

Western Australia

#  Player            Tests ODIs T20Is
1. Adam Voges           20   31    7
2. Shaun Marsh          19   51   15
3. Mitch Marsh          19   48    9
4. Ashton Agar           2    2    2
5. Hilton Cartwright     1    0    0
6. Nathan Coulter-Nile   0   16   17
7. Joel Paris            0    2    0
8. Andrew Tye            0    0    3
9. Cameron Bancroft      0    0    1

Big Bash Only

#  Player            Tests ODIs T20Is
1. Mitchell Johnson     73  153    30
2. Brad Haddin          66  126    34
3. Shane Watson         59  190    58
4. Ben Hilfenhaus       27   25     7
5. Brad Hogg             7  123    15
6. Brad Hodge            6   25    15
7. Shaun Tait            3   35    21
8. Clint McKay           1   59     6
9. David Hussey          0   69    39
10.Ben Laughlin          0    5     3

 

[eddiesmith]

no1 State in the country

#vicsdoitbetter

 

[Gavin Excell]

no1 State in the country

#vicsdoitbetter

Youre not a real cricketer unless your from nsw

 

[strewthcobber]

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...er_count;team=2;template=results;type=batting

2016 sets a new record

 

[The_Reaper]

And with Wade Captaining Australia we'll have at least seven players (Smith, Watson, Warner, Finch, Bailey, White and Wade) who have Captained Australia still in domestic cricket.

And Haddin probably did as well at some point.

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

Stoinis and Heazlett become the 31st and 32nd players of the summer.

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

1st test v SAF: 11 Warner S Marsh Khawaja Smith Voges M Marsh Neville Starc Siddle Hazelwood Lyon
2nd Test add 3 Burns Ferguson Mennie
3rd Test add 5 Renshaw Handscom Maddinson Wade Bird

So 19 there

1st test v Pakistan - nil
2nd Test - nil
3rd Test - add 2 Cartwright O'Keefe

21 players in tests.

ODI v NZ

1st add 5 Finch Bailey Head Cummins Zampa
2nd add 1 Faulkner
3rd nil

ODI v Pakistan

1st add 3 Lynn Maxwell Stanlake
2nd nil
3rd nil
4th nil
5th nil

ODI v NZ

1st add Stoinis Heazlett

Another 11 in ODIs.

32 in total.

 

[Ronnie Baby]

no1 State in the country

#vicsdoitbetter

Quality over quantity

 

[Damon_3388]

no1 State in the country

#vicsdoitbetter

Kind of kills the idea of an anti-Vic selection bias, doesn't it? (especially if you count Hodge, McKay and David Hussey as well)

 

[ioppolo]

At least we have a form guide for the upcoming T20s against SL with the BBL having just finished, but the timing of the Matadors compared with ODIs is a bit of a head scratcher.

 

[eddiesmith]

At least we have a form guide for the upcoming T20s against SL with the BBL having just finished, but the timing of the Matadors compared with ODIs is a bit of a head scratcher.

Originally it was done to prepare for the World Cup, then NSW started winning and it has remained the stupid way it is...

 

[eddiesmith]

Kind of kills the idea of an anti-Vic selection bias, doesn't it? (especially if you count Hodge, McKay and David Hussey as well)

Not really, my gripe has always been they never get a chance. They get 1 off tests as a bowler on the Perth Highway or thrown into no3 on the sub continent when they have rarely if ever batted that high in first class cricket. Then get dropped next match, in ODIs their only hope is when half the side is rested so what hope do you have when playing with blokes who haven't even played for their state? This is usually after spending plenty of time carrying the drinks so you have to perform having not played for a while.

Then come the big tournaments or the chance to play weak opposition, back come the favourites. Or if a NSW batsman, you can fail 4-5 times in a row before you get dropped, but they will get another shot, once a Victorian gets dropped they are gone.

How much would Maxwell or White have liked a chance to play a home test series instead of as a bowler in India or a no3 batsman when he usually bats 6-7! Then when they do get a home series and average over 50, they get dropped anyway. Cameron White has improved his domestic performances out of sight the last 4-5 years but had 1 ODI game in that period? Finch was nearly written off, got in by a fluke because of an unexpected injury and made a decent couple of years out of it because he got a chance.

See what Handscomb did when given a chance, Stoinis today, Hastings and McKay were great in ODIs but never got another chance in tests. Imagine if Starc, Hazlewood, Johnson etc got dropped never to play again after a spanking on a road!

 

[DangerIsLove]

Hastings would've played in the ODIs if he wasn't injured
For me we have the best ODI attack in the world

Hastings, Hazlewood, Faulkner, Starc with Cummins, Zampa and Patto waiting in the wings. Plus Stanlake

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

Possible NEW players for the summer based on the T20 squad just announced:

Michael Klinger, Moises Henriques, Ashton Turner, Tim Paine (wk), Andrew Tye, Jhye Richardson.

 

[The_Reaper]

Possible NEW players for the summer based on the T20 squad just announced:

Michael Klinger, Moises Henriques, Ashton Turner, Tim Paine (wk), Andrew Tye, Jhye Richardson.

Klinger, Richardson and Turner also in line for their first ever Australian appearance. If all three play they will take the total number of players currently in the domestic system who have represented Australia to 69.

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

Klinger, Richardson and Turner also in line for their first ever Australian appearance. If all three play they will take the total number of players currently in the domestic system who have represented Australia to 69.

So just about everyone has had a game especially spinners who amy have played 1 game for Australia in some sort of format.

 

[Toe Poke]

Possible NEW players for the summer based on the T20 squad just announced:

Michael Klinger, Moises Henriques, Ashton Turner, Tim Paine (wk), Andrew Tye, Jhye Richardson.

Possible NEW players for the summer based on the T20 squad just announced:

Michael Klinger, Moises Henriques, Ashton Turner, Tim Paine (wk), Andrew Tye, Jhye Richardson, and add Ben Dunk to the list.

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[IKnowtheDog]

Interesting viewpoint

http://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket...l/news-story/891d283ce65dd8c95cf58e31644e1860

 

[JG22]

Interesting viewpoint

http://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket...l/news-story/891d283ce65dd8c95cf58e31644e1860

CA probably could do a lot more in that area, not that they have to.

I guess that's just what comes with a high pressure environment in any sport, praise or criticism.

 

[Kram]

Not really, my gripe has always been they never get a chance. They get 1 off tests as a bowler on the Perth Highway or thrown into no3 on the sub continent when they have rarely if ever batted that high in first class cricket. Then get dropped next match, in ODIs their only hope is when half the side is rested so what hope do you have when playing with blokes who haven't even played for their state? This is usually after spending plenty of time carrying the drinks so you have to perform having not played for a while.

Then come the big tournaments or the chance to play weak opposition, back come the favourites. Or if a NSW batsman, you can fail 4-5 times in a row before you get dropped, but they will get another shot, once a Victorian gets dropped they are gone.

How much would Maxwell or White have liked a chance to play a home test series instead of as a bowler in India or a no3 batsman when he usually bats 6-7! Then when they do get a home series and average over 50, they get dropped anyway. Cameron White has improved his domestic performances out of sight the last 4-5 years but had 1 ODI game in that period? Finch was nearly written off, got in by a fluke because of an unexpected injury and made a decent couple of years out of it because he got a chance.

See what Handscomb did when given a chance, Stoinis today, Hastings and McKay were great in ODIs but never got another chance in tests. Imagine if Starc, Hazlewood, Johnson etc got dropped never to play again after a spanking on a road!

lol.

 

[The_Reaper]

Interesting viewpoint

http://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket...l/news-story/891d283ce65dd8c95cf58e31644e1860

To be honest there isn't much CA can do about the media and fan criticism (in many ways mostly warranted in this case) which is probably the biggest factor.

Underperforming or seemingly 'undeserving' national cricketers cop it far more than anyone else in Australian sports with the exception of our Olympic Swim team every four years and our 'star' tennis players.

 

[IKnowtheDog]

I think you can throw in jockeys and AFL footballers to the list too!!

I was only young when it happened but I couldn't imagine the pain Kim Hughes went through!!

As you say not much CA can do but it might be something CA CPA can look into how to manage