How would former great players go in the modern game?

[captain cotch 9]

Richo would still be a gun.
He was an amazing athelete

 

[PrinceCharles]

Richo would still be a gun.
He was an amazing athelete

He retired in 2009...

 

[Power Raid]

Silvagni is one of the most overrated players in the history of the game.

who would you rate above him at FB? would he be in your top 5 FBs?

 

[chriso_luke]

If Gary Ablett Snr was converted to the modern game he’d play and dominate exactly like Jnr, perhaps more so

 

[Bunk Moreland]

When you look at Diesel Williams's numbers from the 90s you gotta wonder what he'd put up in today's heavily congested game.

65 possessions, 25 clearances, 7 charges from the MRP.

 

[longdonkey]

Imagine how good the Krakeour brothers would be with modern training techniques and psychologists

 

[gordo2016]

Silvagni is one of the most overrated players in the history of the game.

Just when it appeared the standard of your posts could not get any worse, you come out with that. Pathetic.

 

[Power Raid]

Ablett Snr and other mobile types would excel as they did in the past.

Some of the dinosaurs may not be so effective. One that I would have my doubts on would be dunstall. Not big enough for the KP role and not mobile enough for the midfield or even forward flanks. I'm sure he would still be good but he probably wouldn't be remembered decades after his career.

 

[kranky al]

them were the days

Silly thing is - he was a better player than jako - but jako sucked him into battles of strength - and carey fell for it every time - couldnt accept that jako was stronger and beat him with his other abilities that jako didnt have - had to try beat him with strength - which didnt work

 

[Jack Bradley]

Silly thing is - he was a better player than jako - but jako sucked him into battles of strength - and carey fell for it every time - couldnt accept that jako was stronger and beat him with his other abilities that jako didnt have - had to try beat him with strength - which didnt work

That's what ego does to a man. That being said if they played under today's rules Carey would dominate because punching arms and scragging isn't allowed anymore. That being said, if it's and buts where candy and nuts then I would have a full larder.

 

[footyfan1978]

John Nicholls, one of greatest rucks, was same height as Chris Judd

Would Nicholls rove to Shaun Grigg tap outs ?

 

[footyfan1978]

Yep, it’s the silly season in full swing.

EFA

 

[HTT]

If you put the exact same people into the current system from an early age, they’d be able to match it. As the OP suggests some would play a different position, but in that case someone like a Polly Farmer would be more suited to that position because they’ve played it for most of their life. Take a bunch of older players in their prime and put them in the AFL and they’d be shit. Game moves faster, you need to be fitter. They’d be way out of their depth. Even players from 10-20 years ago would struggle due to new tactics. Although they’d be able to adapt reasonably quickly.

 

[gavaniacono]

Dunstall at 188cm and also could not apply defensive pressure if their lives depended on it.

Oooopppppssssssies!

 

[Supercoach Bargain]

A bloke like Craig Bradley would immerse himself in footy and still be a great player. The blokes who were happy training twice a week and eating pies would be playing suburban footy and happy about it.

 

[*PAF]

The way the game was played even in the 1990s is very different from today.

For example, if you travelled back in time to 1992 and went to a Hawthorn vs. St Kilda game you would see Dunstall (H) and Frawley (S) at one end of the ground, Lockett (S) and Langford (H) at the other, and they would largely stay there until the ball next came into the vicinity. Now when the ball is at one end of the ground, there are very rarely any players of either team at the other end of the ground, they have followed the play down.

and the point is?

Dunstall would excel nowadays just as he did when he played. Maybe not quite as many goals due to having 35 other players to compete with inside 50, but would still excel.

Unlike many other FFs, he gave away almost as many goals as he scored.

 

[Tuco]

Players who played in the 90's would simply need to seriously tune up over a couple of solid pre-seasons.

Players in the 80's and ealier the attrition rate would be brutal though. The Cowboy O'Neils of the world would barely survive.

The top 50 from most eras since the 50's could make a list if developed the same way from childhood.

I suspect the real difference would be some legends of the game would just be average or even list cloggers as the abilities that set them apart were rare in their eras but are simply non-negotiables now that EVERY player has to execute.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

They would teach the modern player how to kick, how not to handball to a team mate under pressure, how to handle a bump, how to play on a man.
They would do just fine. They might have a problem with so many kids who are not ready getting a game.

 

[Dank You Steven]

Sort of like the title suggests I thought it would be interesting to discuss former players, probably not the really recently retired players but players who have been out of the game a few years and how you think they would go in the modern game, or if their styles and how they played would work in the modern game.

I think an interesting example of this, though this is going back some way is Polly Farmer who is the AFL team of the century ruckman, and while I did not see him play he was undoubtably an amazing player to get in that team. Only problem, he is 191cm tall. If he was in the modern game there is no way he would be a ruckman. He would have to either be a medium defender (or forward) or if he had the tank go in the midfield but he would not be the top ruckman in the modern game at that height.

What about guys like Stephen Silvagni as well, as he was supposedly the best key defender of the modern age but I have also heard he was an expert at tactics that would in the modern game be considered a free kick against him. Would he be as effective in 2017/2018 if he had to follow the modern rules?

and what about great power forwards like Locket and Dunstall, both of whom were big (width wise), excellent kicks, reasonably fast on the lead but also surprisingly short (Lockett at 191cm and Dunstall at 188cm) and also could not apply defensive pressure if their lives depended on it. Could they be taught to apply pressure? Also how would their roles be different in 2017 than it was in the late 80's and early 90's?

So how do you think former great players would go in the modern game?

Spot on about Silvagni -he'd concede about twenty frees in the first 10 minutes.

 

[Dank You Steven]

Silvagni is one of the most overrated players in the history of the game.

I second that.

 

[Mootsy]

Hird would still be a star

 

[Dank You Steven]

With modern training techniques, slimming down Dunstall, would he play the Jack Darling sort of role or could he actually be moved into the midfield for short bursts?

Dunstall's tank was... he didn't have one. No chance going in the midfield.

 

[PhatBoy]

Unless you put jako on him

While he did get blanked by Jakovich plenty of times, he also kicked 3 bags of five on him.

On the subject itself, the athletic freaks like Carey and Ablett wouldn’t have an issue. And to be honest, footy nous counts for more than just about anything in the game so the smart players would be able to find a role.

 

[Dank You Steven]

Sort of like the title suggests I thought it would be interesting to discuss former players, probably not the really recently retired players but players who have been out of the game a few years and how you think they would go in the modern game, or if their styles and how they played would work in the modern game.

I think an interesting example of this, though this is going back some way is Polly Farmer who is the AFL team of the century ruckman, and while I did not see him play he was undoubtably an amazing player to get in that team. Only problem, he is 191cm tall. If he was in the modern game there is no way he would be a ruckman. He would have to either be a medium defender (or forward) or if he had the tank go in the midfield but he would not be the top ruckman in the modern game at that height.

What about guys like Stephen Silvagni as well, as he was supposedly the best key defender of the modern age but I have also heard he was an expert at tactics that would in the modern game be considered a free kick against him. Would he be as effective in 2017/2018 if he had to follow the modern rules?

and what about great power forwards like Locket and Dunstall, both of whom were big (width wise), excellent kicks, reasonably fast on the lead but also surprisingly short (Lockett at 191cm and Dunstall at 188cm) and also could not apply defensive pressure if their lives depended on it. Could they be taught to apply pressure? Also how would their roles be different in 2017 than it was in the late 80's and early 90's?

So how do you think former great players would go in the modern game?

I actually took this thread seriously for a bit until I re-read the bit about Dunstall "could not apply defensive pressure if their lives depended on it" - are you ****ing joking? You've totally shown yourself up here - Dunstall set the standard for forward defensive pressure in the late 80s, early 90s. Do your research before coming out with shite like that.

 

[Dank You Steven]

While he did get blanked by Jakovich plenty of times, he also kicked 3 bags of five on him.

On the subject itself, the athletic freaks like Carey and Ablett wouldn’t have an issue. And to be honest, footy nous counts for more than just about anything in the game so the smart players would be able to find a role.

Sam Mitchell was a waddling, slow midfield, but his football smarts made him one of the great players of all time. Greg Williams would do just fine in this era, as would many others who were not athletic.