Vic How would you rate Daniel Andrews' performance as Victorian Premier? - Part 7

[Evolved1]

I’m okay with it. People who habitually exceed speed limits need to be taken off the roads though

Why is one form of illegal driving behaviour acceptable while another isn't?

 

[Proper Gander]

Why is one form of illegal driving behaviour acceptable while another isn't?

Excessive speed has been shown to cause more harm on impact. But this wouldn’t be something you care about so I’m not sure why you asked

 

[Evolved1]

Excessive speed has been shown to cause more harm on impact. But this wouldn’t be something you care about so I’m not sure why you asked

Entitled drivers sitting illegally in the right lane cause frustration on the road, which often leads to road rage, tailgating, and other bad driving behaviour due to frustration (as eddiesmith alluded to).

Try to be consistent about laws if you're going to take the moral stance, otherwise you come across as a hypocrite.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Except the police won’t pull over those people, they’re only interested in the people really speeding.

They don't pull you over though, they just take your photo and send you the bill. They'd have to chase you to pull you over, or have been driving on your tail.

 

[Proper Gander]

Entitled drivers sitting illegally in the right lane cause frustration on the road, which often leads to road rage, tailgating, and other bad driving behaviour due to frustration (as eddiesmith alluded to).

Try to be consistent about laws if you're going to take the moral stance, otherwise you come across as a hypocrite.

Fine then. Drivers shouldn’t sit illegally in the right lane. Nor should any driver tailgate or succumb to road rage. Someone without the capacity to avoid a tantrum at the possibility of losing 10 minutes of their tv watching productivity shouldn’t be behind the wheel.

Habitual breakers of the speed limit should absolutely have their licence removed.

It’s hardly a moral stance to say that anyone who regularly puts their own desire to drive fast ahead of the safety of others should be prevented from driving. Leave the cars to people who do care.

 

[hawkman]

They don't pull you over though, they just take your photo and send you the bill. They'd have to chase you to pull you over, or have been driving on your tail.

Giving habitual speeders a few speeding fines quickly over a few months due to a proper blitz and that will give them cause to rethink their habits

 

[eddiesmith]

They don't pull you over though, they just take your photo and send you the bill. They'd have to chase you to pull you over, or have been driving on your tail.

Not the cops, they either pull you over and fine you or you’re golden. Mobile speed cameras on the other hand are extremely easy to spot on the highways and no one paying attention should ever get pinged by one.

 

[Gralin]

So

Entitled drivers sitting illegally in the right lane cause frustration on the road, which often leads to road rage, tailgating, and other bad driving behaviour due to frustration (as eddiesmith alluded to).

Try to be consistent about laws if you're going to take the moral stance, otherwise you come across as a hypocrite.

I think you'll find the entitlement of the person that road rages is what causes the road rage

You're suggesting people that don't speed or get out of your way are to blame for your aggressive and dangerous driving

 

[Not Important]

Giving habitual speeders a few speeding fines quickly over a few months due to a proper blitz and that will give them cause to rethink their habits

the new speed detecting equipment that can identify speeding on a lane by lane basis on freeways will sort a few out.

 

[Nuggs Bunny]

I'm waiting for cameras that issue fines for driving without mufflers on your shitty Golf R.

 

[eddiesmith]

the new speed detecting equipment that can identify speeding on a lane by lane basis on freeways will sort a few out.

Not really, fixed cameras that everyone knows where they are are the easiest to avoid.

Or if on a different freeway, open the map app on the phone which goes “Speed camera reported ahead!”

 

[Not Important]

Not really, fixed cameras that everyone knows where they are are the easiest to avoid.

Or if on a different freeway, open the map app on the phone which goes “Speed camera reported ahead!”

they'll b extensive. and apart from u not knowing where they r there r mobile versions.

 

[Evolved1]

Fine then. Drivers shouldn’t sit illegally in the right lane. Nor should any driver tailgate or succumb to road rage. Someone without the capacity to avoid a tantrum at the possibility of losing 10 minutes of their tv watching productivity shouldn’t be behind the wheel.

Habitual breakers of the speed limit should absolutely have their licence removed.

It’s hardly a moral stance to say that anyone who regularly puts their own desire to drive fast ahead of the safety of others should be prevented from driving. Leave the cars to people who do care.

Low level speeding is such a minor issue to get on your high horse over. Car maintenance and courteous behaviour (including examples posted) are far more important imo. I view people staying within their lane as another issue more worthy of focus than low level speeding.

Low level speeding is much the same as masks. Why get worked up over trivial issues?

Regardless, I can pretty much guarantee that the level of focus on speeding you want would pull 30-50% of drivers off the road. No government is stupid enough to piss off half the voting population for no benefit.

 

[Proper Gander]

Low level speeding is such a minor issue to get on your high horse over. Car maintenance and courteous behaviour (including examples posted) are far more important imo. I view people staying within their lane as another issue more worthy of focus than low level speeding.

Low level speeding is much the same as masks. Why get worked up over trivial issues?

Regardless, I can pretty much guarantee that the level of focus on speeding you want would pull 30-50% of drivers off the road. No government is stupid enough to piss off half the voting population for no benefit.

Speeding is an issue.

If drivers like you are pulled off the road, that’s great.

 

[Evolved1]

So

I think you'll find the entitlement of the person that road rages is what causes the road rage

You're suggesting people that don't speed or get out of your way are to blame for your aggressive and dangerous driving

I'd blame both. Tailgating and illegal right lane hogging are equally responsible imo.

How hard is it to obey the road rules:

 

[Evolved1]

Speeding is an issue.

If drivers like you are pulled off the road, that’s great.

i suspect that life is going to give you a lot of disappointment.

 

[Gralin]

I'd blame both. Tailgating and illegal right lane hogging are equally responsible imo.

How hard is it to obey the road rules:

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Well no because you're saying its the fault of the person in front of the tailgater for being tailgated

 

[Evolved1]

I'm waiting for cameras that issue fines for driving without mufflers on your shitty Golf R.

While ignoring the sweet sounding 8's.

 

[Evolved1]

Well no because you're saying its the fault of the person in front of the tailgater for being tailgated

If you're hogging the right lane illegally and someone tailgates you, I dgaf. I have bigger fish to fry.

I don't tailgate. I just get pissy, then turn in front of them without using my indicator to show my disgust.

 

[Proper Gander]

i suspect that life is going to give you a lot of disappointment.

Not really, and I’ve lived a fair bit of it. I just don’t think that people should seek a licence to perform any task, or join any licenced occupation, without some willingness to consider the reasons behind the licensing and the safety of others. And unlike many, I don’t carry an expectation that everyone will do as I do. And I probably get some compensatory rewards in happiness and lower blood pressure without tailgate bullying or road rage incidents.

Of course I do miss out on opportunities to flex online about what a daredevil I am with the habitual speeding and so forth. I mean you must earn heaps of admirers

 

[Proper Gander]

While ignoring the sweet sounding 8's.

Probably the most impressive and masculine post ever seen on this site. I bet people are in awe

 

[Ned_Flanders]

But when they drop the speed limit for no reason then send the cops out every single day to catch Speeding motorists, it is nothing more than blatant revenue raising.

I noticed CityLink which is 80 and often littered with cops was able to safely raise the speed limit to 100 when they felt like it and no major accidents occurred.

citylink isnt 80 for revenue raising, its for traffic flow

get a bottle and fill it up with water, and then:

1) time how long it takes to empty when upside down

2) time how long it takes to empty when pouring it out so there is always an air gap in the mouth

the second empties quicker because while the first has higher speed, its stop start due to the water bottlenecking

as traffic approaches the city offramps congestion is inevitable, but by slowing down the traffic the congestion doesnt build up as much and the traffic actually moves more quickly

the same theory works for the new drip feed on ramps during peak hour

 

[Evolved1]

Not really, and I’ve lived a fair bit of it. I just don’t think that people should seek a licence to perform any task, or join any licenced occupation, without some willingness to consider the reasons behind the licensing and the safety of others. And unlike many, I don’t carry an expectation that everyone will do as I do. And I probably get some compensatory rewards in happiness and lower blood pressure without tailgate bullying or road rage incidents.

Of course I do miss out on opportunities to flex online about what a daredevil I am with the habitual speeding and so forth. I mean you must earn heaps of admirers

Because doing 10% over the limit makes me a daredevil, right? I presume you live it up by jaywalking. That's a story to tell the grandkids one day.

Stay in your lane, kid. Preferably not the right one.

 

[Evolved1]

Probably the most impressive and masculine post ever seen on this site. I bet people are in awe

Cheers mate. I thought much the same.

 

[Gralin]

If you're hogging the right lane illegally and someone tailgates you, I dgaf. I have bigger fish to fry.

I don't tailgate. I just get pissy, then turn in front of them without using my indicator to show my disgust.

Back to your entitlement being an issue