Howe many?

[PP34]

Think the punishment is suitable.

I think the leg action was careless but not sure if it was as bad as some have made out. Still had to go for it.

The three weeks make up for the punch punishment. Can’t have players just belting blokes in the jaw. Luckily Cripps didn’t end up with a jaw crack again.

 

[Stax on the mill]

Give it a rest mate your cluelessness about the hawks is very obvious. Get back to me with proper evidence instead of baseless claims.

Off you go sonny. Churlish responses and personal abuse doesn’t quite cut it. Howe got his just desserts ( well almost ).

 

[falcons2]

^ Click the cog and turn HD on for a better look

This is interesting vision. Before Howe wrongly and then rightfully punished whacks Cripps, you have a collection of dribblers in Cripps, Fisher, Kennedy and Curnow all pushing at their Hawthorn opponents like successful high acheivers while the ball is out of play. No wonder they didn't score for the quarter.

 

[stax on the mull]

3 weeks is about right.

Its not a bump or tackle gone wrong, its been deemed as trip gone wrong.

A trip is not a legitimate football action and when the consequences are a broken leg then it should be dealt with severely.

 

[Ron The Bear]

Agree with others, punishment about about right. There have been far dirtier examples of tripping/kicking but with the AFL's consequences-based outcomes, the penalty had to be substantial.

 

[Strange Cat]

5 seems about right you can’t go around breaking players leg

Then again solane got away with it last year.

 

[Strange Cat]

Give it a rest mate your cluelessness about the hawks is very obvious. Get back to me with proper evidence instead of baseless claims.

Have a lie down I’m sure your tantrum posts will look embarrassing with a clear head

 

[Art Vandelay_]

5 week total suspension

Season done.

 

[hawkman]

What would result in medium or high impact for a trip?
Seems like it would be almost impossible to assessed either of those impacts for a trip

 

[Art Vandelay_]

What would result in medium or high impact for a trip?
Seems like it would be almost impossible to assessed either of those impacts for a trip

Interesting question.

Seems farcical that a trip not meant to harm someone gets 3 weeks but an intentional punch to the head gets two.
The system is broken.

 

[AlwaysHawks15]

Off you go sonny. Churlish responses and personal abuse doesn’t quite cut it. Howe got his just desserts ( well almost ).

Nothing but deflection just as I thought, we're not discussing string theory, a simple case of you making unsubstantiated claims about how our club goes about it's business, I asked for proof and you can't provide any so do yourself a favor and stop posting comments you know nothing about.

 

[AlwaysHawks15]

Have a lie down I’m sure your tantrum posts will look embarrassing with a clear head

Tantrum posts? "shakes head" defending your club from bullshit assumptions?, have a look at most club boards buddy including your own.

 

[Strange Cat]

Tantrum posts? "shakes head" defending your club from bullshit assumptions?, have a look at most club boards buddy including your own.

Another tantrum

 

[AlwaysHawks15]

Another tantrum

I'm not playing this game pal, try your baiting on the bay 13 board.

 

[Strange Cat]

I'm not playing this game pal, try your baiting on the bay 13 board.

I’m not baiting I’m just backing up what others are saying about your emotional posts

They all look childish, the penalty was fair so I don’t get this victim complex

 

[theyellowsash]

Think the punishment is suitable.

I think the leg action was careless but not sure if it was as bad as some have made out. Still had to go for it.

The three weeks make up for the punch punishment. Can’t have players just belting blokes in the jaw. Luckily Cripps didn’t end up with a jaw crack again.

i dont think careless comes into it. kicking players is a dog move, whether he did it on the spur of the moment or not, and is against the rules so its not like a dangerous tackle which was a legal action done badly. another player now has a badly broken leg. you have to kick someone pretty hard to break a bone unless theyre made of matchsticks, but that doesnt really matter.

i dont think it makes up for the punch. punches like that should be getting 4 weeks minimum regardless of impact to weed them out of the game.

 

[Sicily]

Absolutely appalling and gutless decision contrived to appease the ever growing PC brigade and flogs in the meedya - anyone who thinks that this was an intentional or reckless act has zero feel for the game and/or simply wants to jump on the anti-Hawthorn bandwagon.

I’ll now sit back and look forward to the inevitable rants from Hawthorn detractors comforted in the knowledge that you would be just as enraged if this travesty was levied upon one of your players -and don’t try and suggest otherwise ......

 

[F_therest]

Selwood on Milera last weekend, Dangerfield leading with his legs to try and win a disputed ball on Saturday night. So because they didn't break the guys leg or in danger's case smash the guys head in that it constitutes a lesser penalty? How about we penalise the action first not the outcome.

You can't realistically enforce that.

All criminal justice legal type systems base on outcome.

Cameron hits Harris Andrew's with an elbow he gets 5 weeks, same action but he misses Andrew's nothing happens.

No different to the real world.

Drunk driver swerves but hits nothing he's fine, if he swerves and hits and kills a pedestrian they go to jail.

 

[theyellowsash]

Absolutely appalling and gutless decision contrived to appease the ever growing PC brigade and flogs in the meedya - anyone who thinks that this was an intentional or reckless act has zero feel for the game and/or simply wants to jump on the anti-Hawthorn bandwagon.

I’ll now sit back and look forward to the inevitable rants from Hawthorn detractors comforted in the knowledge that you would be just as enraged if this travesty was levied upon one of your players -and don’t try and suggest otherwise ......

a guys leg is broken because of a deliberate illegal act during the game. if youre not going to suspend a player for that then you might as well do away with a suspension system.

 

[Marcus DuQuesne]

Hopefully Howe cops a meaningful penalty, which reflects the seriousness of his transgressions. For too long the Hawks and Clarkson have been pushing the boundaries under their mantra of playing unsociable football. Elbows, sly punches, knees, choking, and burying their opponents into the ground have been a hallmark of Hawthorn’s play under Clarkson’s reign. Cannot agree more this guy gets it right. Oh you barrack for Hawks who would have thought.

 

[Marcus DuQuesne]

Disappointing but expected

He got the least you could have expected. Lucky him.

 

[citizen-erased]

Absolutely appalling and gutless decision contrived to appease the ever growing PC brigade and flogs in the meedya - anyone who thinks that this was an intentional or reckless act has zero feel for the game and/or simply wants to jump on the anti-Hawthorn bandwagon.

I’ll now sit back and look forward to the inevitable rants from Hawthorn detractors comforted in the knowledge that you would be just as enraged if this travesty was levied upon one of your players -and don’t try and suggest otherwise ......

trips are deliberate. may have been instinct, but its a poor instinct. Fletcher copped plenty of these and i don't believe he ever broke anyones leg. And every time he did it, we knew what was coming and wish he'd stop.

3 seems fair given the outcome of the trip.

 

[Sicily]

a guys leg is broken because of a deliberate illegal act during the game. if youre not going to suspend a player for that then you might as well do away with a suspension system.

Nothing deliberate about it and we are opening a dangerous can of worms if we apply penalties based on outcomes in lieu of the acts themselves however unfortunate those outcomes may be.

 

[MinerBoy]

Hopefully Howe cops a meaningful penalty, which reflects the seriousness of his transgressions. For too long the Hawks and Clarkson have been pushing the boundaries under their mantra of playing unsociable football. Elbows, sly punches, knees, choking, and burying their opponents into the ground have been a hallmark of Hawthorn’s play under Clarkson’s reign. Cannot agree more this guy gets it right. Oh you barrack for Hawks who would have thought.

What a lovely lot of BS that was.

 

[hawkman]

Hopefully Howe cops a meaningful penalty, which reflects the seriousness of his transgressions. For too long the Hawks and Clarkson have been pushing the boundaries under their mantra of playing unsociable football. Elbows, sly punches, knees, choking, and burying their opponents into the ground have been a hallmark of Hawthorn’s play under Clarkson’s reign. Cannot agree more this guy gets it right. Oh you barrack for Hawks who would have thought.

Most top clubs play like that. I'm sure you were outraged watching Geelong at their peak watching players like Scarlett, Chapman, Mooney, Hawkins, Selwood, Milburn, Johnson and Podsiadly doing similar things