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I miss Gaddafi and Saddam

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They should never have been attacked.

Gaddafi ran Libya very well and helped the Irish in their struggle.

Saddam was a prick but look at the alternative.

And Massoud in Afghanistan should have been leader, but Belgian AQ operatives took him out the day before 9/11. CIA? Probably/maybe.

Secular arab socialists, even those who are personally religious, are the only people capable of running these highly volatile nations that the French and English drew up.

More importantly, the one thing they don't need is european or anglo involvement.
Don't agree with defending Gaddafi or Saddam, but they did bring stability in a volition region.

Definitely agree with the premise of "don't get involved"
 

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I also love that we've seen firsthand how removing Middle Eastern strongmen works out. Yet, the attempts to remove Al Assad have continued :rolleyes:

How dumb can the US be to continue destabilizing the Middle East? What can we say that we've achieved for these people?

Because it's not about justice & Democracy....It's about oil, power & control....Not to mention the establishment of a greater Zionist State.

We all know this is the end-game, so why keep up the charade that America & the West are the good-guys?....They haven't been since the end of WW11.
 

Now there's a man who knew how to wear a tea-towel.

His other great accomplishment was in getting people to take him seriously, in spite of both his fashion-sense & his name.
 
In March of 1997, intrepid foreign correspondent Robert Fisk set out to meet with a tall, charismatic Gulf Arab Warrior of some renown. The son of a Saudi businessman billionaire, Osama Bin Laden was the leader that inspired followers from all over the Muslim world to take up arms in Jihad. He was the military leader who, with his mujaheddin, had fought and defeated the Russian Army. The very same man who plotted, conducted and encouraged some of the worst examples of mans inhumanity to man. A monster no doubt; a monster born of the parents of conflict and ideology. But you don’t want me to go into all that, another day…

Lets get back on the dirt tracks from Jalalabad to the Kabul Gorge and on upwards into the mountains. Now, as our brave reporter explains much better I, this was a white knuckle ride of tight twisting trails and dangerous ravines, all to be traversed in the purple inked Afghan night. So he held on as “the road grew worse…the jeep skidding backwards towards sheer cliffs, the headlights playing across the chasm on either side”.

Then in a failed expression of reassurance, the driver, in what must be the greatest corporate advertisement tagline never used, declared; “Toyota is good for Jihad!”
 

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I'm really surprised there's no love for Adi Amin,Pol Pot Mugabe and dare I say it Hitler on here.

Unlike most of em, U.S presidents usually only give the green-light to slaughter 3rd world citizens, rather than their own....Out-of-sight, out-of-mind....Doesn't count then. Too abstract & NIMBY, so no worries.

It also helps loads when you have the western media on your side too....Keeps the image nice n polished in spite of the carnage.
 

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What are your thoughts on Sankara, P35. We disagree on a lot but you seem the type to know of him.

Don't know much about him other than he was touted as the Che Guevara of African politics....I'm assuming the C.I.A knocked him off then?
 
From memory I think the French got rid of him because they wanted a monopoly on Burkina Faso's natural resources.

Give this one a crack then Herc, if you have the inclination....A very condensed version of an 11 hour expose epic.

 
Bought that book around 2008 which was a bit of a catalyst in my political and economic shift from capitalist to socialist.
It's pretty cooked. It makes it very hard to not want the US to collapse and to hope that we could rebuild the world in a better way.
 

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