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I'm still haunted by lost chance: Gary Ablett

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Gary Ablett

March 22, 2009 12:00am

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25222066-661,00.html

I'VE been asked a lot since last year's Grand Final about why I got so emotional in the moments after the final siren.

My answer is simple. Playing in a grand final is why we play footy. Footballers play the game so that we can win premierships.

Everything we sacrifice during the year, all the hard work we put in as an individual and as a club, it's all for that one afternoon.

So when the siren sounded, it got to me that we'd put in all the work, but there was no taking it back. We'd have to go through another year of grind just to get another opportunity to win one.

You think about all the great footballers who've gone through their careers without winning a premiership.

Sure, we'd won a flag the previous season, but this was a chance to win another one and you never know whether that chance will come again.

Out on the ground, "Bomber" (Cats coach Mark Thompson) made sure he got around to the players, because he could see we were hurting.

He was great, he said to make sure we learned from it, that if we get in another situation like this, to make sure we don't let it slip again.

That evening, some of the players and girlfriends went out for a few beers just to be together and share the pain.

Whereas in 2007, I'd gone home to Geelong because I wanted to soak it all in and enjoy every moment.

I also spoke on the phone to my dad (Gary Sr) - who'd been through four losing grand finals as a player - and spent about an hour talking about how I felt.

He's an incredibly positive person, the old man, and spoke about how you can't change the result, all you can do is work towards the next one.

Since the loss, the players haven't spoken about it much. We try not to dwell on it.

Straight after the game we spoke about what a great opportunity it had been to do something special, but that it had gone. Since then, though, we haven't felt the need to sit down and review the game.

The players knew what went wrong, that, OK, the coach had given us a game plan and spoken to us after every quarter, but as players on the ground we hadn't adapted as the match unfolded around us.

We hadn't taken responsibility for making changes, which is something we usually pride ourselves on.

Maybe we as individuals had tried to win the match, rather than thinking first and foremost about what we could do to help the team.

We hadn't made sure we got across to help teammates and brought them into the game.

I wouldn't say we'll use the loss as motivation. Maybe individual players will feel that pain and draw on it, but as a group we want to move on.

It was the same when we won the 2007 Grand Final. As much as you want to enjoy it, you've got to shift your focus to the next challenge.

I'd say each of our players has probably had a look at a tape of last year's Grand Final - I had a really brief look at it - and it does hurt.

Our game plan was good enough to win, but we made a few errors that we don't normally make and Hawthorn played good footy.

There's no doubt every Geelong player had a real crack. I just got the sense some of our guys were much more nervous last year than they were going into the 2007 Grand Final.

We'd lost only one game during the season and the expectation was there, so it felt like there were a few nervous boys.

That can change how a player performs and if you've got five or six players down on the day, it has a real impact, especially on a team like us, which relies on everyone.

We normally enjoy the challenge of knowing that teams are coming after us and we still do, but on that day there were perhaps a few guys who struggled with it.

We had chances, but maybe just some guys were nervous.

The other thing people ask me about the Grand Final is whether I was happy with my game.

The answer is 'No', because the bottom line is it was a losing Grand Final.

There was no happiness. I was shattered.

I'd rather have had one kick and won the match.
 

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nah, he was crying coz he had the trifecta

Brownlow, Grandfinal and Normy, 2nd in all 3:)

More of a man than you'll ever be. What Gary failed to mention in that article was the tragic loss of his Grandfather a week before. Pardon him for being a bit "emotional".
 
It's a bit hard to believe Gary when he also had a cry when he didn't win the Brownlow in 2007 and 2008. While he is desperately trying to repair his image to position himself to be Geelong's next captain most will see straight through this stunt. Like his father and brother, Gary Ablett is a selfish human being playing football for nothing more than individual glory. Shameful.
 
It's a bit hard to believe Gary when he also had a cry when he didn't win the Brownlow in 2007 and 2008. While he is desperately trying to repair his image to position himself to be Geelong's next captain most will see straight through this stunt. Like his father and brother, Gary Ablett is a selfish human being playing football for nothing more than individual glory. Shameful.

Seems theres a few people around here who'd like a little time out.
 
Pretty good of Gary to come out and address it rather than just hope everyone forgets he got emotional. Good article.

Any Geelong supporters worried about this bit though?

"Straight after the game we spoke about what a great opportunity it had been to do something special, but that it had gone. Since then, though, we haven't felt the need to sit down and review the game."

Maybe I'm old fashioned but I would have thought losing an important game would result in minute by minute replays of working out what went wrong to avoid it happening in the future?

Anyway - good luck to you guys Friday night. Hope it's a ripping game. :thumbsu:
 
It's a bit hard to believe Gary when he also had a cry when he didn't win the Brownlow in 2007 and 2008. While he is desperately trying to repair his image to position himself to be Geelong's next captain most will straight through this stunt. Like his father and brother, Gary Ablett is a selfish human being playing football for nothing more than individual glory. Shameful.

Mate what are you on about? Gary had every reason to feel dissapointed after losing the brownlow (and he "didnt have a cry"). He was favourite all year, and also the year before, and had he not been injured for 4-5 games he would have easily won. Also, the last game where the count came down to the wire (against West Coast i believe) Gary had 30 possesions and kicked a goal or 2. I think he can be forgiven for thinking that that performance was at least worthy of 2 or 3 votes :rolleyes:.

While we are in he mood of talking about players playing for the individual glory why dont you have a look at your very own Brendan Fevola. Shameful.
 
It's a bit hard to believe Gary when he also had a cry when he didn't win the Brownlow in 2007 and 2008. While he is desperately trying to repair his image to position himself to be Geelong's next captain most will see straight through this stunt. Like his father and brother, Gary Ablett is a selfish human being playing football for nothing more than individual glory. Shameful.

What bollocks.

An individual being disappointed at not winning an individual award does not translate into not being a team player.

Watch how he plays the game. He is one of the most team oriented players in the league. When you take into account how talented he is, that's a huge feat as he could be forgiven for trying to do a lot more on his own than he does.

If you are trolling, you hit the mark. If you're not, you have NFI.
 
Any Geelong supporters worried about this bit though?

"Straight after the game we spoke about what a great opportunity it had been to do something special, but that it had gone. Since then, though, we haven't felt the need to sit down and review the game."

Maybe I'm old fashioned but I would have thought losing an important game would result in minute by minute replays of working out what went wrong to avoid it happening in the future?

There's a whole thread on this somewhere.

Essentially, this is Bomber's style and always has been. I'd say the majority of Geelong supporters wish he'd look at and address his and the team's flaws more closely, but it's hard to argue with the record of the man over the past 2 seasons. The results are there for all to see.

I think there's also an element of this only being the way the issue is being dealt with in public where as in private it might be quite different. I think Bomber and the team know where they went wrong on GF day (whether that's by dissecting the replay or not is another matter) and they have and will set about rectifying it. I guess that's all that matters. What is said publicly is neither here nor there.
 
I spoke to Bomber about this last year. I dont see a point in reviewing it. What are you going to say?

Umm next time kick straight and you will win by 60pts like you do every match.

No pressure like scoreboard pressure!
 
Perhaps this sits with 'Bomber' saying that "people take it so seriously,get so emotional,get so angry,I just can't understand that" (Herald Sun 13/03); perhaps it suggests that 'Bomber' in his tenth year of coaching hasn't bothered to understand that it might be just a game but that's what supporters do, they are passionate, they do hurt and after spending all that money, time and emotional investment they do get a little cross when the unloseable GF is well -lost.
Perhaps he should take a little time to understand us and respect that, we the supporters, after all pay his wages.

The most telling part of the Gary Ablett interview is when he says Bomber could see that we were hurting, I would have thought that 'Bomber' should have been hurting was well.
And please don't tell me that we are lucky to have him because of 2007- blind freddy or the Drovers Dog could have have coached that winning GF, with that team. And 'Bomber' should have won more eg 06 & 08 with that team.
 

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2009 will tell the tale for Bomber and this (almost) great Geelong team.

I don't rate Bomber as a great coach even tho he gave us our first flag in 44 years (there should arguably have been 3 or 4 premierships in between), and in all honesty wouldn't have been sad to see him go at the end of 2006 (clearly I was wrong, along with thousands of others).

But there is no doubt that he has the team playing the best football ever seen in the AFL (okay it may not be exciting for opposing fans but a lot of them admire the style and quality of play).

Oh for one more big strong forward....
 
Perhaps this sits with 'Bomber' saying that "people take it so seriously,get so emotional,get so angry,I just can't understand that" (Herald Sun 13/03); perhaps it suggests that 'Bomber' in his tenth year of coaching hasn't bothered to understand that it might be just a game but that's what supporters do, they are passionate, they do hurt and after spending all that money, time and emotional investment they do get a little cross when the unloseable GF is well -lost.
Perhaps he should take a little time to understand us and respect that, we the supporters, after all pay his wages.

The most telling part of the Gary Ablett interview is when he says Bomber could see that we were hurting, I would have thought that 'Bomber' should have been hurting was well.
And please don't tell me that we are lucky to have him because of 2007- blind freddy or the Drovers Dog could have have coached that winning GF, with that team. And 'Bomber' should have won more eg 06 & 08 with that team.
I was at the Sunday wake after the GF at Skilled..trust me...Bomber was hurting! So were the boys.
Just because Bomber doesn't rant and rave in public doesn't mean that he doesn't occasionally tear the boys a new one.
I would think a man who has built such an impressive young and successful team from the ground up with no sub-7 picks should not have to justify his style.
Personally I felt the GF was not his best day as a coach and I'm sure he knows what they did and didn't do wrong better than we do...early signs are promising IMO.
We have to remember there is a different culture at GFC now. It relates not just to winning but to how you present as a human being in private and public. It's about respecting the game, your club, your team-mates and the community as a whole.
I would hold that up against Clarkson's "win at all cost/stretch the rules to the limit" approach any day.
Let's not also forget that Bomber said 2 years ago that he wanted you to be able to turn up at Skilled on a Monday after the game and not see a difference if we win or lose, in either the demeanour or processes around the club.
We were happy with that for the 42 times we won. Let's not wimp out on the 3 times we lose.
 
Gotta love Hawks fans who scan every article written about Geelong since the grand final with a fine tooth comb to pick out every little tidbit to try and convince themselves they have some kind of mental edge over us. What do they expect us to do? Watch the tape every day and write down copious notes on every second of action? I'd say the players have watched the tape of the 2008 grand final just as much as they watched the tape of the 2007 grand final. After all, there's no use dwelling on the past.
 
Gotta love Hawks fans who scan every article written about Geelong since the grand final with a fine tooth comb to pick out every little tidbit to try and convince themselves they have some kind of mental edge over us. What do they expect us to do? Watch the tape every day and write down copious notes on every second of action? I'd say the players have watched the tape of the 2008 grand final just as much as they watched the tape of the 2007 grand final. After all, there's no use dwelling on the past.

Fear...insecurity...
Also good point about 2007..I remember players and Bomber saying they hadn't really watched that one much at all until weeks/months later. Moved on immediately.
 
Gotta love the trolls! See ya later...

I have to say this article doesn't say anything I didn't expect it to say. Rd 1 is going to have a big say in giving us, say, a bit of a psychological boost, but a win is only going to be a small catharsis. After all, it's only premiership points, not a premiership.
 

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I was at the Sunday wake after the GF at Skilled..trust me...Bomber was hurting! So were the boys.
Just because Bomber doesn't rant and rave in public doesn't mean that he doesn't occasionally tear the boys a new one.
I would think a man who has built such an impressive young and successful team from the ground up with no sub-7 picks should not have to justify his style.
Personally I felt the GF was not his best day as a coach and I'm sure he knows what they did and didn't do wrong better than we do...early signs are promising IMO.
We have to remember there is a different culture at GFC now. It relates not just to winning but to how you present as a human being in private and public. It's about respecting the game, your club, your team-mates and the community as a whole.
I would hold that up against Clarkson's "win at all cost/stretch the rules to the limit" approach any day.
Let's not also forget that Bomber said 2 years ago that he wanted you to be able to turn up at Skilled on a Monday after the game and not see a difference if we win or lose, in either the demeanour or processes around the club.
We were happy with that for the 42 times we won. Let's not wimp out on the 3 times we lose.

Well said.:thumbsu:
 
Gotta love Hawks fans who scan every article written about Geelong since the grand final with a fine tooth comb to pick out every little tidbit to try and convince themselves they have some kind of mental edge over us. What do they expect us to do? Watch the tape every day and write down copious notes on every second of action? I'd say the players have watched the tape of the 2008 grand final just as much as they watched the tape of the 2007 grand final. After all, there's no use dwelling on the past.

No, not at all.

Just try and work out if it was coaching, game plan, match day tactics or personnel that lost the game - and then fix that going forward.

I'm not insecure or looking to hang onto a mental edge, let's not take this approach. I want to see Geelong come back bigger and stronger in 2009, hopefully the hawks do as well and we can have some epic battles going forward.
 
No, not at all.

Just try and work out if it was coaching, game plan, match day tactics or personnel that lost the game - and then fix that going forward.

I'm not insecure or looking to hang onto a mental edge, let's not take this approach. I want to see Geelong come back bigger and stronger in 2009, hopefully the hawks do as well and we can have some epic battles going forward.

I think they realised on the day where it all went wrong. Looking at the tape again months later won't change that. As Ablett said in the article,

"The players knew went wrong, that, OK, the coach had given us a game plan and spoke to us after every quarter, but as players on the ground we hadn't adapted as the match unfolded around us. We hadn't taken responsibility for making changes, which is something we usually pride ourselves on.

Maybe we as individuals had tried to win the match, rather than thinking first and foremost what we could do to help the team. We hadn't made sure we got across to help teammates and brought them into the game."

But nah, they need to watch the tape again, don't they? :rolleyes:
 
No, not at all.

Just try and work out if it was coaching, game plan, match day tactics or personnel that lost the game - and then fix that going forward.

I'm not insecure or looking to hang onto a mental edge, let's not take this approach. I want to see Geelong come back bigger and stronger in 2009, hopefully the hawks do as well and we can have some epic battles going forward.

Bomber has said that he has watched it up until 1/2 way through the last quarter. And that it was a complete waste of time. He already knew what went wrong.
 
No, not at all.

Just try and work out if it was coaching, game plan, match day tactics or personnel that lost the game - and then fix that going forward.

I'm not insecure or looking to hang onto a mental edge, let's not take this approach. I want to see Geelong come back bigger and stronger in 2009, hopefully the hawks do as well and we can have some epic battles going forward.

To the extent that we'd rip your mob a new one every time we meet this year? How very thoughtful of you. lol :D

Don't worry about us, surely you've gotta plenty on your plate at your own club to keep you busy? I'm certainly not overly concerned how the hawks are gonna fair this year
 
I think they realised on the day where it all went wrong. Looking at the tape again months later won't change that. As Ablett said in the article,

But nah, they need to watch the tape again, don't they? :rolleyes:

You're a very defensive bunch of fans. I'll just leave you all to your own devices.

Good luck in 2009:thumbsu:
 

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