Is Ayers foxing?

[MaccasNeighbour]

Gary Ayers has stated clearly that he doesn't expect Adelaide to be a major player in trade negatiations this week.

Do you think he's just playing it cool or are we likely to see pretty much the same squad in Round 1 next year?

 

[Portia]

If Adelaide were going to make a major play for someone, it'd be all over the media by now. You don't have homesick players, or much in the way of trade bait - most players on your list are either required, unproven or too old to have good trade value.

 

[MaccasNeighbour]

Originally posted by Porthos
If Adelaide were going to make a major play for someone, it'd be all over the media by now. You don't have homesick players, or much in the way of trade bait - most players on your list are either required, unproven or too old to have good trade value.

I would have thought Perrie would be great trade bait but it seems like he'll be retained.

There are several other fringe type players that are tradeable e.g. Doughty, Bode, Marsh, Mattner. None of them would get you a top player, but with draft picks they could.

 

[macca23]

Originally posted by Porthos
If Adelaide were going to make a major play for someone, it'd be all over the media by now. You don't have homesick players, or much in the way of trade bait - most players on your list are either required, unproven or too old to have good trade value.

I'm sure you're right.

I'm equally sure that Adelaide are just sitting there as did Port last year, hoping to pull off a bargain deal on the last day as Port did with Pickett and the trading of Barry Brooks.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Adelaide are just sitting back to see what is on offer. Unlike last year, we are not desperate to trade. However, I'm sure if Reidy & co see a good opportunity (eg. Michael) they will go after it.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Originally posted by Kane McGoodwin
Adelaide are just sitting back to see what is on offer. Unlike last year, we are not desperate to trade. However, I'm sure if Reidy & co see a good opportunity (eg. Michael) they will go after it.

Spot on.

We are not going out there and stating publicly that we are after someone. We did it last year and we got ripped off.

This year we are going sit back and see what unfolds. We might come our winners, we might come out empty handed or we might exchange a fringe player or 2. Either way I would not be too fussed. Obviously I would love to get Michael and a good young ruckman but it is unlikely to happen.

As far as AFC are concerned, we won't know anything by friday. Any deals that we are likely to do, will be done after 12 on friday. Same sort of stuff with Ronnie Burns last year.

 

[Jars458]

When did we trade Gary Ayres for Gary Ayers??

 

[MaccasNeighbour]

Oops, Ayres or Ayers he's still a tool.

Brisbane have apparently stated that Mal Michael is a required player. Then again, that too could simply be crap otherwise they would have resigned him already.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Its interesting to see that Mal Michael was Rookie Listed by Collingwood in 1997. A best FB in the comp came off the rookie list.

Hopefully, Aidan Parker can follow in his foot steps.

 

[roostersgal4eva]

Originally posted by MaccasNeighbour
Brisbane have apparently stated that Mal Michael is a required player. Then again, that too could simply be crap otherwise they would have resigned him already.

no apparently about it - mal IS a requred player, we are waiting for him to make his mind up

we will probally trade gram (vic team) and notting (sydney as faves)

 

[Crow-mosone]

Originally posted by Porthos
If Adelaide were going to make a major play for someone, it'd be all over the media by now. You don't have homesick players, or much in the way of trade bait - most players on your list are either required, unproven or too old to have good trade value.

Isn't it past your bedtime?

Fantasia stated clearly that the AFC beleives that their bargaining power was compromised last year by showing their hand too early.

Now I am not expecting any blockbusters, but your first line is rubbish.

 

[Portia]

Originally posted by Crow-mosone
Isn't it past your bedtime?

Are you trying to establish yourself as the AFC's premier dill?

Fantasia stated clearly that the AFC beleives that their bargaining power was compromised last year by showing their hand too early.

Now I am not expecting any blockbusters, but your first line is rubbish.

No, its not. As far as I can see there's a general agreement with it, even from yourself as much as you won't admit it.

 

[PAfolwr]

Originally posted by Porthos
If Adelaide were going to make a major play for someone, it'd be all over the media by now. You don't have homesick players, or much in the way of trade bait - most players on your list are either required, unproven or too old to have good trade value.

Fair statement, and you could add that after last year the AFC will not trade early picks so easily.
My expectation is not too much trade done by the AFC and early draft picks used on taller type players.

Having said that, watch your first round pick go tomorrow morning.

 

[Crow-mosone]

Originally posted by Porthos

No, its not. As far as I can see there's a general agreement with it, even from yourself as much as you won't admit it.

this is uneducated hooey, there is no correlation between the AFC's trade plans, and YOUR reasons for stating us such.
chicken - egg? egg - chicken?

you seem to think because it's not all over the media, there CAN'T be any trades in he works. which is typical rubbish.
whether there is, or is not, media speculation is not the barometer.

it's still past your bedtime.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Originally posted by PAfolwr
Fair statement, and you could add that after last year the AFC will not trade early picks so easily.
My expectation is not too much trade done by the AFC and early draft picks used on taller type players.

I think that we will sit back and see what happens. A bit like your mob did last year with Pickett. We might be as lucky as you were last year but I am not holding my breath. I think we will concentrate on the National draft which suits me fine.

Having said that, watch your first round pick go tomorrow morning.

Wash your mouth out. Although I wouldn't mind losing a 1st round pick for a good young tall. Someone like Charman would be great

 

[Portia]

Originally posted by Crow-mosone

you seem to think because it's not all over the media, there CAN'T be any trades in he works.

I never said can't, I said weren't. I believe I have until I'm proven wrong before you can actually call me out on that.

which is typical rubbish.

Yet strangely, so far 100% accurate.

whether there is, or is not, media speculation is not the barometer.

Its as good as any other. Name the last big trade the Crows did without it being in the media prior? And you know what else? Thats not even the main reason I mentioned for why there probably wouldn't be any big deal done by the Crows.

it's still past your bedtime.

You're still being a prick.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Originally posted by Porthos
Name the last big trade the Crows did without it being in the media prior?

I can see where you are coming from but I think there has been a genuine change in how we go about things this year. We are unlikely to get a big gun but that doesn't mean we won't be involved.

Was there anything in the media about Port going after Pickett last year??????

 

[Portia]

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
Was there anything in the media about Port going after Pickett last year??????

Port are probably the most secretive club in the league, whereas the Crows have the media's claws in them like nobody's business. But yes, we heard about the Pickett deal a day or so before it was done (although not the exact details).

And again, media speculation still isn't the main reason why I don't see Adelaide doing any big trades this year. Its a lack of obvious tradebait (ie. non-required players with higher trade value than their value to the team) or homesick players that I reckon is the main cause.

 

[PAfolwr]

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
I think that we will sit back and see what happens. A bit like your mob did last year with Pickett. We might be as lucky as you were last year but I am not holding my breath. I think we will concentrate on the National draft which suits me fine.

You never never know just what might happen, although the fact that Pickett was homesick was known, thus the trade was not really that much of a surprise. How little we paid for him definitely was.

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
Wash your mouth out. Although I wouldn't mind losing a 1st round pick for a good young tall. Someone like Charman would be great

Sorry. The problem is every time I make a statement, I end up having to eat my own words.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Originally posted by Porthos
And again, media speculation still isn't the main reason why I don't see Adelaide doing any big trades this year. Its a lack of obvious tradebait (ie. non-required players with higher trade value than their value to the team) or homesick players that I reckon is the main cause.

And I think you are not far off the mark.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Originally posted by PAfolwr
You never never know just what might happen, although the fact that Pickett was homesick was known, thus the trade was not really that much of a surprise. How little we paid for him definitely was.

Sorry. The problem is every time I make a statement, I end up having to eat my own words.

Well we are hoping for a bargain or 2 but if it doesn't come off then its no big deal

I wouldn't be too fussed about trading our 1st round pick as long as its for a very good young player. By young I mean 22 or under

Ottens would be an exception of course

 

[Crow-mosone]

Originally posted by Porthos
I never said can't, I said weren't. I believe I have until I'm proven wrong before you can actually call me out on that.

Yet strangely, so far 100% accurate.

idiot. I think we all know not much seems to be happening, your reasons i.e. media - is pure speculation, and not the best kind. If you think that makes you 100% accurate. I have sized you up about right.

Its as good as any other. Name the last big trade the Crows did without it being in the media prior? And you know what else? Thats not even the main reason I mentioned for why there probably wouldn't be any big deal done by the Crows.

The crows very rarely make huge trades, they are a little dull like that. I believe I quoted you verbatim originally. The matthew Clarke deal (biggest one, pre carey) wasn't mentioned in the media until just before, and ronnie burns (though not huge, I grant you) was not mentioned at all.

You're still being a prick.

you've missed fat cat.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Well Reidy & Co must not be too concerned about trading as they have come back to Adelaide. Perhaps they got bored with a lack of action for 2 days or Sheedy-Miller squabbles & figure that they will head back on Friday when clubs are actually looking to trade.

 

[Portia]

Crow-mosone, its become pretty clear that you've got the comprehension skills of a post-lobotomy mental patient. Have a nice life.

 

[noddy]

Ahh the joy of trade week,