Opinion Is Jack Macrae Overrated?

[WillHayward]

Clangers matter. Turnovers don’t. Turnovers are much more wide variety while Clangers are direct which isn’t good. Doesn’t make or break anything like most stats needs to be used with others. Singular stats mean nothing as a whole they are usually much more represented.

Your Hawks just lost clearances 30 to 54. Centre clearances 8 to 18 and disposals 342 to 416.
Still won the game by 64!!!


Direct footy beats the crap ring a rosie supercoach points, sideways, triangle crap that Macrae plays.

 

[Virgin Dog]

Your Hawks just lost clearances 30 to 54. Centre clearances 8 to 18 and disposals 342 to 416.
Still won the game by 64!!!


Direct footy beats the crap ring a rosie supercoach points, sideways, triangle crap that Macrae plays.

Weird how many score assists and metres gained he gets while apparently only doing crap sideways passes.

 

[Dewyyyyy]

Your Hawks just lost clearances 30 to 54. Centre clearances 8 to 18 and disposals 342 to 416.
Still won the game by 64!!!


Direct footy beats the crap ring a rosie supercoach points, sideways, triangle crap that Macrae plays.

Yes but just using clearances stats without using efficiency, Inside 50 efficiency and so on. It makes it look better with less stats. It’s what I said there. You can’t use one or two you have to use more to make them all make sense.

 

[sr36]

Direct footy beats the crap ring a rosie supercoach points, sideways, triangle crap that Macrae plays.

You can't select one player and blame him for the style of footy that his team plays.

 

[WillHayward]

You can't select one player and blame him for the style of footy that his team plays.

Well Kane and Lloydy had a go at him on footy classified so it's not just me .

The thread is not whether he is good.
I think he's a very good footballer.

The thread is about if he is over rated.

My point is he is over rated because many people don't watch games and look at his stats and think he's gun.

That's my argument. He is very good but he ain't a gun.
He's over rated. Footy isn't supercoach points.
Stats over rate him.

 

[Dewyyyyy]

Well Kane and Lloydy had a go at him on footy classified so it's not just me .

The thread is not whether he is good.
I think he's a very good footballer.

The thread is about if he is over rated.

My point is he is over rated because many people don't watch games and look at his stats and think he's gun.

That's my argument. He is very good but he ain't a gun.
He's over rated. Footy isn't supercoach points.
Stats over rate him.

He’s not overrated. Because there’s too many saying that he is. He’s a gun. He’s rated pretty highly and has good reason.

There’s a pretty good middle ground between overrated and underrated. He’s also kinda overhated.

 

[WillHayward]

He’s not overrated. Because there’s too many saying that he is. He’s a gun. He’s rated pretty highly and has good reason.

There’s a pretty good middle ground between overrated and underrated. He’s also kinda overhated.

Pretty sure you are his mum or manager.
I like him. He good
He's not a gun.

 

[Dewyyyyy]

Pretty sure you are his mum or manager.

Pretty sure you’re Kane Cornes.

 

[Tylerbombers]

He's not a gun.

What is a gun to you? Top 50? Top 20? Top 10? Earlier in the thread you have said things like

If MacRae hits an inside 50 it's a sideways 15m kick to someone on the boundary

Which is clearly not true, you only need to watch his most recent game to see that so it seems like you are underrating him.

 

[BringouttheGimp]

Jack's the 3rd highest ranked Macrae in the AFL.

1. Craig
2. Finlay
3. Jack.

Not too bad.

 

[GroggSquad]

The fact most people always say Bont is way better than him suggests to me he is underrated.

Way more consistent than Bont and had more goal assists than him last year (Macrae was 2nd in the league). But yeah, he's not damaging

 

[TheBigHorne]

Well Kane and Lloydy had a go at him on footy classified so it's not just me .

The thread is not whether he is good.
I think he's a very good footballer.

The thread is about if he is over rated.

My point is he is over rated because many people don't watch games and look at his stats and think he's gun.

That's my argument. He is very good but he ain't a gun.
He's over rated. Footy isn't supercoach points.
Stats over rate him.

No they don't most people think he's a gun because he's able to accumulate the ball and clearances whilst also delivering passes to targets inside 50.

 

[maddog37]

Pretty sure you are his mum or manager.
I like him. He good
He's not a gun.

Just for perspectives sake, which Sydney players are you categorising as a gun?

 

[danster168]

He got shafted to the forward line and the wing when the game was in the balance in the last quarter...

 

[WillHayward]

Just for perspectives sake, which Sydney players are you categorising as a gun?

Right now. Probably none really.

Heeney the closest. Parker closish.

That's it.

 

[Bianconeri]

You can't select one player and blame him for the style of footy that his team plays.

Idk that the way I felt about Chris Mayne

 

[Freshwater]

The fact most people always say Bont is way better than him suggests to me he is underrated.

Way more consistent than Bont and had more goal assists than him last year (Macrae was 2nd in the league). But yeah, he's not damaging

Bont is amazingly consistent. When he is not BOG, he is just very good. Week in week out and never misses.

 

[WillHayward]

What's he had tonight?

1,000 fantasy points running around in circles?

 

[Dan]

What's he had tonight?

1,000 fantasy points running around in circles?

Big ol double points as SC Captain too.

Superstar.

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

He’s also kinda overhated.

I think people find the constant lurching and flopping a bit off-putting.

 

[Darksidepoints]

Stat padder extraordinaire

 

[Tylerbombers]

What's he had tonight?

1,000 fantasy points running around in circles?

He had the most contested possessions and clearances on the ground, the most tackles for the dogs, a goal and equal second for score involvements.

 

[Struggle]

The only guy in our side who kicked more goals than points. Underrated for sure

 

[WillHayward]

He had the most contested possessions and clearances on the ground, the most tackles for the dogs, a goal and equal second for score involvements.

Well be got zero coaches votes. So the coaches don't rate him


2022 Coaches Votes Leaderboard

25 Patrick Cripps CARL
21 Andrew Brayshaw FRE
21 Jeremy McGovern WCE
20 Christian Petracca MELB
18 Touk Miller GCFC
17 Shai Bolton RICH
17 Jordan De Goey COLL
17 Tom Green GWS
17 Clayton Oliver MELB
16 Changkuoth Jiath HAW
16 Darcy Parish ESS
16 Bailey Smith WB
15 Tom Hawkins GEEL
15 Isaac Heeney SYD
14 Willie Rioli WCE
13 Max King STK
13 James Sicily HAW
12 Heath Chapman FRE
12 Jack Crisp COLL
12 Lachie Neale BL
12 Joshua Rachele ADEL
12 Jayden Short RICH

 

[Tylerbombers]

So the coaches don't rate him

They didnt rate him in the best 5 players on the ground in a loss.