Is Nick Daicos The Best First Year Player Of All Time?

[La Dispute]

Before anyone mentions Michael Barlow who was 22 or 23 at the time, I'm talking about players drafted out of TAC or equivalent junior league.

Judd was incredibly good from the get go, more impactful, but wasn't putting up the numbers Daicos is. Selwood and Walsh were both great and played important roles but slightly behind.

Partly pains me putting this one up, but it's awesome watching Daicos dominate games of footy. Beautiful kicking skills, composed, accumulates but is one of the few high volume possession winners with hurt factor.

Massive ceiling.

 

[aussierulesrules]

Chris Grant is one that comes to mind. Kicked 51 goals from just 20 games in his first year, at the ripe old age of 17. So two years younger than Nick is this year. And he was playing key position.

Was out there at the Western Oval for his first game.

 

[ep2018]

Joel Selwood. Won the rising star and a flag in the same year.

 

[Dynamics]

I'm just grateful this was posted by a Carlton supporter.

My opinion on the actual subject is hopelessly biased, but the kid's pretty special.

 

[00Stinger]

Threads like this are utterly ****ing stupid, a big like the GOAT discussion

How can anyone really know who the best ever was if no one was alive 130 years ago to have seen every player play?

 

[random260]

Just goes to show how good Rowell was in his first five games prior injury

 

[RuFiO]

No, he's the best player of all time!

 

[La Dispute]

Joel Selwood. Won the rising star and a flag in the same year.

Flag is a nice, but not sure you can tack it on given Selwood probably wasn't in the best 10 players that day.

Selwood also didn't finish in the Top 15 in the Carji Greeves that year - Daicos should finish in the Top 5 (at worst) in Collingwood's BnF this year.

 

[La Dispute]

Just goes to show how good Rowell was in his first five games prior injury

Wonder how he would have gone if had of played out a full season though?

Surely teams would have started to tag him and/or he would have ran out of steam and regressed at some point.

 

[Gavin Excell]

Judd?

 

[OnceWeWereKings]

Chris Grant is one that comes to mind. Kicked 51 goals from just 20 games in his first year, at the ripe old age of 17. So two years younger than Nick is this year. And he was playing key position.

Was out there at the Western Oval for his first game.

Was an absolute Rolls Royce from the get go. Star.

 

[theiaofseed]

Hogan kicked 44 goals at an average of 2.2

Walsh I'd argue had a better first year than Daicos so far

 

[Gavin Excell]

For sure he is having a great debut but is playing one of the easiest positions (off half back) in the modern game

 

[clivenator26]

Granted he was playing in a team that won only 7 games but Paul Hasleby

Paul Hasleby

Age

44

Ht

182cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.7

5star

K

9.2

4star

HB

11.5

5star

M

4.3

4star

T

3.0

5star

CL

1.9

4star

No current season stats available

D

17.4

5star

K

11.4

4star

HB

6.0

4star

M

5.8

5star

T

3.8

5star

copped tags and finished 2nd in our b&f in 2000. He averaged 21 touches a game and kicked 15 goals from 21 games as a pure mid. He had 30 and a goal on debut and a season high 37 and a goal. Two 3 x brownlow votes in two other games as well.

Rhys Palmer’s was up there too but Hasleby’s doesn’t get talked about enough, super clean hands and impacted games right away.

Daicos looks amazing and you’d be splitting hairs for mine to pick.

 

[HairyO]

Grant, Judd, Rioli, Hogan, Walsh all better.

Go back far enough and most players were recruited at 17 and played in the Reserves and had maybe a few games in the seniors. So its really only the last 20 or 30 years we can compare.

 

[WillHayward]

Classic bigfooty.

Such and such is the best "ever".

Then go back about 2 years.

 

[HairyO]

Classic bigfooty.

Such and such is the best "ever".

Then go back about 2 years.

Carlton supporter probably did this so people could say Walsh.

 

[La Dispute]

Classic bigfooty.

Such and such is the best "ever".

Then go back about 2 years.

Wait what.

A 1st year Daicos is currently better than a 3rd year Rowell.

Surely you didn't believe a quarter of a season is enough to validate Rowell as the best first year player of all time?

 

[La Dispute]

Carlton supporter probably did this so people could say Walsh.

Literally said in the OP I believe Daicos is better than Walsh at the same point in time.

Nice projecting though.

 

[Vikingnz]

Michael Barlow had a good first year but is such a bizarre example in this situation lol.

It's like saying 'Is Buddy Franklin the best forward of all time? Now before any of you mention Billy Brownless, hear me out...'

 

[WillHayward]

Mainwaring in 1987 was very handy (3rd b and f)

 

[masai tu]

Classic bigfooty.

Such and such is the best "ever".

Then go back about 2 years.

Generational is the buzz word at the moment.

Player X is a generational player in his position.

 

[WillHayward]

Peter Hudson kicked 57 goals from 17 games in 1967.

Solid.

 

[CasuallyDressed]

Judd?

I think Judd debuted against the Pies at the G and it was probably the most dominant game I've seen from a player that young ever.

Killed us.

 

[Nunez]

Wait until you see Will Ashcrofts first season next year.