Is Tom Hawkins criminally underrated?

[Tiger2709]

Yawn y'all are tiresome. Richmond are great we get it.

I replied to yet another Cats comment about Richmond, if your supporters would stop referencing us in every damn thread we wouldnt need to constantly respond in every damn thread

 

[Tiger2709]

Sneaky Coleman chance. Still flying under the radar.

Quite a chance a few could tie for it, very close.

 

[The 747]

I replied to yet another Cats comment about Richmond, if your supporters would stop referencing us in every damn thread we wouldnt need to constantly respond in every damn thread

Perhaps if you weren't so insecure you wouldn't feel the need to defend the reigning premier and current flag favourite everytime they get mentioned in a thread.

 

[The 747]

Quite a chance a few could tie for it, very close.

It's been a good season for forwards. Offensive tactics are starting to catch the defensive ones which occur as a result of rule changes. So hey let's change some more rules AFL.

 

[Tiger2709]

Perhaps if you weren't so insecure you wouldn't feel the need to defend the reigning premier and current flag favourite everytime they get mentioned in a thread.

You see there you go again

Perhaps if you stayed on topic we wouldn't be having this pointless discussion.

 

[Tiger2709]

It's been a good season for forwards. Offensive tactics are starting to catch the defensive ones which occur as a result of rule changes. So hey let's change some more rules AFL.

I wish they would just leave things alone pay the frees that are there, the game will take care of itself.

 

[Wojcinski]

When was the last time he played down back for an extended period?

2016

 

[The 747]

You see there you go again

Perhaps if you stayed on topic we wouldn't be having this pointless discussion.

This whole thread is pointless. Hawkins is rated appropriately he's a very good player not a great one.

 

[DrEvil_]

This whole thread is pointless. Hawkins is rated appropriately he's a very good player not a great one.

He's an all time great at the local hot dog eating contest.

 

[The 747]

He's an all time great at the local hot dog eating contest.

You are funny, do you write your own material?

 

[Wojcinski]

He's an all time great at the local hot dog eating contest.

Hopefully he can climb to legendary status like Cyril and Hodge

 

[PhatBoy]

He's an all time great at the local hot dog eating contest.

Based on what, his ridiculous physique? Classic.

 

[WillHayward]

About to hit 500 career goals.
Good effort.

 

[Benny78]

We dont think highly of him as Rance generally beats him so we dont see him at his best.

If only lol.. he's drilled Rance for a decade. Rance didn't beat Hawkins until the end of his 10th AFL season.

 

[Daka]

He has had a good career if people are honest, he reminds me of a poor man's Matthew Richardson he has good tank not to workrate of Richo but does seem run a lot Kilometers on the App he is not quite to the level of Buddy, Riewoldt, Kennedy but I'd probably have him on par with Tex Walker as a player.

 

[My Tilly]

He has had a good career if people are honest, he reminds me of a poor man's Matthew Richardson he has good tank not to workrate of Richo but does seem run a lot Kilometers on the App he is not quite to the level of Buddy, Riewoldt, Kennedy but I'd probably have him on par with Tex Walker as a player.

Walker's probably a bit more prominent in finals. If his teammates aren't getting him the ball, he tends to try and work his way into a game.

Hawkins has kicked 1 goal or less in 11 of his 20 finals appearances.
Very mediocre by comparison to most other 500 career goal kickers.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Walker's probably a bit more prominent in finals. If his teammates aren't getting him the ball, he tends to try and work his way into a game.

Hawkins has kicked 1 goal or less in 11 of his 20 finals appearances.
Very mediocre by comparison to most other 500 career goal kickers.

I'm still of the opinion that Hawkins should have been awarded the Norm Smith Medal in the 2011 GF.

 

[Tiger2709]

If only lol.. he's drilled Rance for a decade. Rance didn't beat Hawkins until the end of his 10th AFL season.

Benny Benny Benny, since the beginning of Rances career in 2009, which actually began at KP versus Geelong, with Hawkins being held to 2 goals, Hawkins has averaged only 1.5 goals a game against Richmond, his best output was 3 in 2011 and 2015 the rest of the years are 1 goal or no goals.

If 1.5 goals a game is what you consider a drilling then that explains why you think Hawkins is underrated, personal opinion is he is a solid full forward not to many tricks in his bag, if anything he is slightly overrated.

 

[Emissary]

Given his size / work rate, I've always somehow expected more of him. But still, very good player.

 

[Captain_Bender]

Benny Benny Benny, since the beginning of Rances career in 2009, which actually began at KP versus Geelong, with Hawkins being held to 2 goals, Hawkins has averaged only 1.5 goals a game against Richmond, his best output was 3 in 2011 and 2015 the rest of the years are 1 goal or no goals.

If 1.5 goals a game is what you consider a drilling then that explains why you think Hawkins is underrated, personal opinion is he is a solid full forward not to many tricks in his bag, if anything he is slightly overrated.

I struggled to recall any game where Hawkins had a day out against Richmond

 

[Tiger2709]

I struggled to recall any game where Hawkins had a day out against Richmond

Same here, even though Geelong itself had a number of days out against us up intil recent years.

 

[MISFITS]

Given his size / work rate, I've always somehow expected more of him. But still, very good player.

Agreed..
2012. He was poised to take the Coleman mantle for years to come.

Key Forward Players like Jack Riewoldt shed weight about 4 years ago to cater to the running based supportive game expected of forwards these days.
15kg from memory.

Hawkins went the other way and piled on the kilos.
I’m sure that size comes in handy but the guy is physically stronger than his opponents anyway.
With the increased size Tom has been more notable to accidental frees against and the odd suspension through being a fraction late and clumsy.

Credit where credit is due..
I’m still a Tomahawk fan.

It’s always a balance between size and speed.

 

[My Tilly]

I'm still of the opinion that Hawkins should have been awarded the Norm Smith Medal in the 2011 GF.

nah' he was playing on an injured bloke who is now all but washed up because of persistent injuries starting that very day.

Bartel was a class above everyone in the midfield.
Dictated the game on his terms. Was kicking goals from the boundary, 55 metres out and was at the very top of his game in every aspect.
If not for he, Johnson and Selwood, we are in trouble at halftime.

 

[Collins-Langford-Ayres]

Porkins once cleaned through this in 30 minutes...



Very underrated !!

 

[Sttew]

Porkins once cleaned through this in 30 minutes...

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Very underrated !!

It is most unfair of you to post an image of your afternoon snack and link it to Tommy