Its Time For Trigg To Resign.

[Jars458]

He didn't. The only Person open to criticism is Whicker.

Smart has done nothing wrong.

The whole idea was bad judgement. His media appearances cringeworthy. He cannot be our next CEO.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Whicker didn't want it . As he said he made the call.

Paperwork or not the SANFL changed its mind.

That is irrelevant! You put any major issue in writing no matter what the other party says. Particularly when like in this case there is a disagreement over the details. If in writing it should be black & white. Seriously amateurish & these clowns have not even learnt from a hard lesson. Just not up to the job. Simple as that.

 

[Cap]

That is irrelevant! You put any major issue in writing no matter what the other party says. Particularly when like in this case there is a disagreement over the details. If in writing it should be black & white. Seriously amateurish & these clowns have not even learnt from a hard lesson. Just not up to the job. Simple as that.

They got it from the AFL.

If you really think there would be a different outcome if it had been in writing from the SANFL, I'd be amazed.

 

[Mattrox]

They got it from the AFL.

If you really think there would be a different outcome if it had been in writing from the SANFL, I'd be amazed.

This is the bit I have issue with. Trigg and Chapman should have closed ranks behind Smart. Trigg sold Smart out on 5AA last night.

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[Kane McGoodwin]

They got it from the AFL.

If you really think there would be a different outcome if it had been in writing from the SANFL, I'd be amazed.

way to miss the point that afc should put everything in writing!

If the outcome is the same at least then all the blame would be elsewhere.

 

[Cap]

way to miss the point that afc should put everything in writing!

If the outcome is the same at least then all the blame would be elsewhere.

The blame is elsewhere.

Whicker has said its his faukt, he made the call and the AFC arent to blame.

Only people with agendas are suggesting otherwise

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

The blame is elsewhere.

Whicker has said its his faukt, he made the call and the AFC arent to blame.

Only people with agendas are suggesting otherwise

You have no idea about business if you don't believe that major proposals should be put in writing

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Ps cap are you now working for afc?

 

[Cap]

Ps cap are you now working for afc?

I work in big business I do big deals. Some agreements are in verbal agreements which hold as much legal sway as written

If I could work for the AFC I would. Wouldn't you?

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I work in big business I do big deals. Some agreements are in verbal agreements which hold as much legal sway as written

If I could work for the AFC I would. Wouldn't you?

I also work in business but I put anything significant in writing. Doesn't take long to put something in email including if previously verbalised.

Gather you are a better candidate for afc than me

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Ps if no witnesses give me a written over a verbal deal any day!

 

[Cap]

I also work in business but I put anything significant in writing. Doesn't take long to put something in email including if previously verbalised.

Gather you are a better candidate for afc than me

You know there is no legal precdence for email.

Word = email.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Email has been often used as evidence & has more weight than hear say.

 

[rocket18]

I work in big business I do big deals. Some agreements are in verbal agreements which hold as much legal sway as written

If I could work for the AFC I would. Wouldn't you?

Sure a lot is verbal but when the details are done you follow it up with the paperwork. Especially since the SANFL hold the licencing rights and we wanted to use it to the tune of $500,000.

I'm staggered that supposed business people on here don't expect this is writing. Just gob smacked.

If we had a written agreement detailing how we were selling it to members and we expect to earn $500-$600k it would have been a lot harder for them to change their mind.

 

[Southerntakeover]

You know there is no legal precdence for email.

Word = email.

I'm not sure what this is even supposed to mean.

 

[Cap]

I'm not sure what this is even supposed to mean.

It means the validity of email as a medium to create a contract hasn't been established.

Well last time I checked.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Harper mentioned dodgy contract in email = evidence.

Trigg cancelled written contract verbally = carries no weight.

See the difference.

 

[Southerntakeover]

It means the validity of email as a medium to create a contract hasn't been established.

Well last time I checked.

I don't think you really understand what a contract is.

Emails are frequently used to communicate agreements, and could certainly be produced, and relied upon, in order to establish the existence of a contract.

 

[Southerntakeover]

Harper mentioned dodgy contract in email = evidence.

Trigg cancelled written contract verbally = carries no weight.

See the difference.

They could theoretically both carry weight.

The reality is though, that being able to produce something that demonstrates the agreement means that it's far more likely that a court would find that such an agreement existed. If you do not record your agreement in writing, you can only establish it with your evidence (i.e. by attesting to the fact that it existed), and you run the risk that the Court may not prefer your version of events to the other parties.

 

[Cap]

I don't think you really understand what a contract is.

Emails are frequently used to communicate agreements, and could certainly be produced, and relied upon, in order to establish the existence of a contract.

Yes they have been relied on by business but that didn't mean in a court of law it cant get over turned.

I don't take email communication, I'll take a fax because it has been supportered in a court of law.

I don't need to prove my knowledge to you. I deal in this stuff daily.

 

[skoobydoo]

Smart should have prepared better. Off the cuff curt retorts is no way to handle the media. He should have paved the way with 'statement' responses that spelt out our approach, the precedents, and more importantly a more sophisticated dismissal of Port along the lines of 'The AFC do not have to ensure Port Power are happy with everything we do'. Etc Etc.

But it wasn't just Smart's presentation. The idea was good but the entire package (name selling) was not fully thought through and developed. What a welcome back gift to Rucci.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

They could theoretically both carry weight.

The reality is though, that being able to produce something that demonstrates the agreement means that it's far more likely that a court would find that such an agreement existed. If you do not record your agreement in writing, you can only establish it with your evidence (i.e. by attesting to the fact that it existed), and you run the risk that the Court may not prefer your version of events to the other parties.

absolutely that is my point that whilst verbal & written both are legal only written will definitely hold up as verbal may be disputed by the other party. Exhibit a - triggy's poor attempt to verbally cancel a written contract.

 

[Southerntakeover]

Yes they have been relied on by business but that didn't mean in a court of law it cant get over turned.

I don't take email communication, I'll take a fax because it has been supportered in a court of law.

I don't need to prove my knowledge to you. I deal in this stuff daily.

I actually don't think you know what you're talking about, despite the numerous appeals to your authority.

I would like you to support your claims regarding courts 'supporting fax' and 'overturning emails'. The distinction between the two would appear spurious at best. Both are simply a method of exchanging documents.

It is usual practice in many areas of litigation that communications are exchanged by emails, including those from Courts themselves, or containing formal documents. In some jurisdictions you can now instigate proceedings and lodge documents via email.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Why did the afl look at all afc's emails in tippett-gate & use as evidence if they couldn't?

 

[Damp Squarie]

The thing with being arrogant and smug is you need to make sure you don't leave yourself open to ridicule by making mistakes or stupid statements.

Very true.
This was probably his first big statement under the spotlight and he got toasted.
Smart will make lot more stupid comments....you watch.