Jarrad Grant vs Jack Watts

[The Prosecutor]

But he's not even playing as a key forward.

What is he playing as then?

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

More proof of Watts' amazing ability. His attacking flair kept Melbourne withing 40 goals that day

Kind of like Hawkins' first 5 years.

 

[ManOfClay]

Watts has played more games than Grant, purely because Grant was even more of a stick when he was drafted.

Watts was supposedly a ready made key forward. Who can't play key forward.

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

What is he playing as then?

As a lead up flanker.

 

[Tex_21]

Kind of like Hawkins' first 5 years.

Apart from those 2 premierships, sure.

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

Watts has played more games than Grant, purely because Grant was even more of a stick when he was drafted.

Watts was supposedly a ready made key forward. Who can't play key forward.

You're showing yourself to be more and more full of shit by each post.

Watts weighed 78kg's when he was drafted - 196cm's.

Grant weighed 77kg's when he was drafted - 192cm's.

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

Apart from those 2 premierships, sure.

Love this revisionist history.

 

[Tex_21]

Love this revisionist history.

Well, Hawk's first 5 years were 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2011. Now, I assume he keeps them at home, but it is irelevant, that he has a premiership medal from both 2009 and 2011. When I went to school, that was 2.

 

[ManOfClay]

You're showing yourself to be more and more full of shit by each post.

Watts weighed 78kg's when he was drafted - 196cm's.

Grant weighed 77kg's when he was drafted - 192cm's.

If you can't look at their respective body types and see what I said, then it is because you are stupid or you just don't want to believe.

Here's that demonstration of Watts' pace by the way, one of the fastest players in the league indeed:


Put up against some real pace:

 

[Blackas87]

Usain Bolt can run fast, can't play football, just like Grant

 

[ManOfClay]

Or Watts' sublime ball use out of defence:

 

[ManOfClay]

For someone with such great footskills he tends to spray it a bit:

 

[ManOfClay]

Usain Bolt can run fast, can't play football, just like Grant

Must have missed the couple of bounces and a goal at the end. Usain Bolt can't do that. Neither can Jack Watts.

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

Well, Hawk's first 5 years were 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2011. Now, I assume he keeps them at home, but it is irelevant, that he has a premiership medal from both 2009 and 2011. When I went to school, that was 2.

Do you even understand what 'revisionist history' means?

 

[ManOfClay]

And that awareness, wow.

 

[Blackas87]

His first season there, how about 2012 for Grant, 12 goals from 13 games from a dangerous forward lol, the coach plays him as a sub because he knows he isn't any good.

 

[Tex_21]

Do you even understand what 'revisionist history' means?

The only point I made was that in his first 5 years, Hawkins had 2 flags. You claimed that as 'revionist history', suggesting I had somehow looked back on his performances with rose coloured glasses as he is now a very good player. I made no suggestion of the sort, and you seem to be somewhat mad about this. I suggest you put down the cheese grater, pull up your pants, put away the photo of Jack Viney and calm yourself down.

 

[The Prosecutor]

Do you even understand what 'revisionist history' means?

Is it similar to pointing out Watts as a number one pick was a grave mistake.

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

If you can't look at their respective body types and see what I said, then it is because you are stupid or you just don't want to believe.

Here's that demonstration of Watts' pace by the way, one of the fastest players in the league indeed:


Put up against some real pace:

Yeah, I was particularly impressed that Grant outran both of Ben Reid AND Darren Jolly.

BTW, how was Grant MORE of a rake when Watts is 4cm's taller but only 1kg heavier ... that just doesn't make sense, does it?

Watts' 20 metre sprint time = 2.82

Grant's = 2.89

Now, going on that fact = Watts is quicker.

It's not that hard.

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

The only point I made was that in his first 5 years, Hawkins had 2 flags. You claimed that as 'revionist history', suggesting I had somehow looked back on his performances with rose coloured glasses as he is now a very good player. I made no suggestion of the sort, and you seem to be somewhat mad about this. I suggest you put down the cheese grater, pull up your pants, put away the photo of Jack Viney and calm yourself down.

Thanks for confirming you don't understand what it means.

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

Is it similar to pointing out Watts as a number one pick was a grave mistake.

No.

 

[The Prosecutor]

His first season there, how about 2012 for Grant, 12 goals from 13 games from a dangerous forward lol, the coach plays him as a sub because he knows he isn't any good.

Yet, as ThePuppetMaster pointed out, Watts played as a KPF last year, his return was 0.95 goals a game, Grant on the other hand was returning 0.92 goals a game this year.

Considering that Grant has been used as a sub as you pointed out, that highlights just how poor Watts is as a KPF.

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

Yet, as ThePuppetMaster pointed out, Watts played as a KPF last year, his return was 0.95 goals a game, Grant on the other hand was 0.92 goals a game.

Considering that Grant has been a sub as you pointed out, that highlights just how poor Watts is as a KPF.

Watts' stats compare pretty favorably to that of any other 20 year old CHF - based on his 2011 season.

 

[Tex_21]

Thanks for confirming you don't understand what it means.

Is it more about the creation of Israel being a mistake?

 

[ManOfClay]

Wellingham could only watch as Grant breezed past him.


As for your "Watts was more of a rake" comment - he was skinny but nowhere near as lightly framed as Grant