Josh Frydenberg. Out of his depth.

[campbell]

Angry middle aged man huh.lol

 

[Nikita Blue]

correction - former ABC journalist running against a hardline conservative (despite his comical efforts to brand himself a 'moderate')

I live in the neighbouring electorate and spend a lot of time in Goldstein. Zoe's picture is everywhere and so are her volunteers. Timmy might have to permanently decamp to Canberra while no doubt claiming exorbitant travel expenses.

 

[Rotayjay]

I hope that in the coming years, the LNP is reduced to a little rump in parliament. **** them. They do not deserve to get anywhere near government after what they have done to the country - the country our kids have to grow up in.

 

[kalex6251]

I hope that in the coming years, the LNP is reduced to a little rump in parliament. fu** them. They do not deserve to get anywhere near government after what they have done to the country - the country our kids have to grow up in.

in some ways its probably not a bad thing that the lnp moves further to the right ....... moderates will abandon the party in droves preferring to vote for candidates that better reflect their socially progressive views

this will inevitably expose the hardline conservative rump for what it is ..... no longer able to hide behind the more palatable positions of their moderate base this lot will be forced to electorally justify their vile obnoxious views ..... the victorian conservatives are a case in point (america as well - just have to look at the $hitshow now unfolding around abortion) ...... their candidates are increasingly drawn from a limited pool comprising: objectionable RWNJ think tank groups; a third rate suburban lawyer/accountant workforce; and an unhinged religious right who unashamedly believe in theocratic rule ..... exposure is not a bad thing here

 

[nut]

Josh representing even more value now at $1.81…..

 

[mill204]

Nailed it!

Frydenberg, Wilson, and Liu are not only fighting as hard as each other to retain their incumbency, but they also have a lot in common: All three consistently demonstrate they care more about their power and standing within the party, their preselectors and their donors than they do about their conscience, their communities, and their country.

Victorian Liberals care more about themselves than their communities

Frydenberg, Wilson and Liu care more about their standing within the party than they do about their conscience, their communities and their country.

thenewdaily.com.au

 

[mill204]

Anyone surprised? Anyone????

And I'm guessing "yes" on this one.

 

[Tyberious Funk]

Yep... and when those kids are old enough, they'll probably vote for the Greens.

And in their twenties, they'll continue to vote for the Greens or maybe sway towards voting for Labor.

And in their thirties, they'll probably continue to vote for the Greens or Labor.

And then in their forties, they'll maybe continue to vote for the Greens of Labor.

And then in their fifties... having inherited the family residence in Kooyong... they'll probably start to think "**** the poor people... **** the old people... **** the sick people... and **** the environment. I've got mine, and I don't want to share."

And from that point on, they'll vote for the Liberals and regularly complain about how the younger generation want everything handed to them on a silver platter and if they would just stop eating avocado on toast...

 

[Maggie5]

Gee I hope she wins. Has done her homework.

 

[nut]

Gee I hope she wins. Has done her homework.

Sounds like she lived that homework..

This should be shared every where …

 

[Gethelred]

Yep... and when those kids are old enough, they'll probably vote for the Greens.

And in their twenties, they'll continue to vote for the Greens or maybe sway towards voting for Labor.

And in their thirties, they'll probably continue to vote for the Greens or Labor.

And then in their forties, they'll maybe continue to vote for the Greens of Labor.

And then in their fifties... having inherited the family residence in Kooyong... they'll probably start to think "fu** the poor people... fu** the old people... fu** the sick people... and fu** the environment. I've got mine, and I don't want to share."

And from that point on, they'll vote for the Liberals and regularly complain about how the younger generation want everything handed to them on a silver platter and if they would just stop eating avocado on toast...

Nah.

Circumstances have changed. Libs are skewing even older than before. Beyond a certain point, they themselves will have to change, as their voter base is no longer Boomers or Gen X but Y as well, and we ain't voting for them unless things change rather a lot because we will not own property under the status quo.

The wedding force between age and conservativism is property ownership. If they exclude people from that, they will not see the supposed transition from young left wing to old conservative, and that is provided one accepts the bullshit Churchhillian 'If you aren’t a liberal when you’re young, you have no heart, but if you aren’t a conservative by middle age, you have no head' horseshit.

 

[QuietB]

 

[nut]

Monique now favourite with bookies

 

[Pessimistic]

Leafy inner east didn’t appreciate culture wars based election last state election. Look at the areas with biggest swings

 

[Dixie Flatline]

Leafy inner east didn’t appreciate culture wars based election last state election. Look at the areas with biggest swingsView attachment 1397642

Which is exactly why Scott Morrison has studiously stayed the hell away from seats like Kooyong and Goldstein so far, because the Liberal campaign HQ know that he is electoral poison south of the Murray River, especially in seats like Kooyong.

 

[nut]

Which is exactly why Scott Morrison has studiously stayed the hell away from seats like Kooyong and Goldstein so far, because the Liberal campaign HQ know that he is electoral poison south of the Murray River, especially in seats like Kooyong.

Labor and the Teals should put up posters of him

 

[Contra Mundum]

I live in the neighbouring electorate and spend a lot of time in Goldstein. Zoe's picture is everywhere and so are her volunteers. Timmy might have to permanently decamp to Canberra while no doubt claiming exorbitant travel expenses.

The teals are doing some incredible campaigning - 85% doors knocked is both Kooyong and Goldstein is an amazing. Labor are lucky to do half of that in their seats

 

[mill204]

The teals are doing some incredible campaigning - 85% doors knocked is both Kooyong and Goldstein is an amazing. Labor are lucky to do half of that in their seats

Liberals too. In Goldstein Timmy (I'm a dobber) Wilson is struggling for funds and volunteers.

The Teal movement has so-so much to do with the appalling treatment and utter disregard Scummo and his band of misogynists has for women. It's women who will be at the forefront of change. And God bless 'em for it.

 

[Contra Mundum]

Liberals too. In Goldstein Timmy (I'm a dobber) Wilson is struggling for funds and volunteers.

The Teal movement has so-so much to do with the appalling treatment and utter disregard Scummo and his band of misogynists has for women. It's women who will be at the forefront of change. And God bless 'em for it.

Lets face it - as far as climate change is concerned Labor can't be trusted - be better if they had to rely on teals to get anything done. [contra: Stegell is a rusted on NeoLib on basically every other issue)

 

[Cyber_punk]

Monique now favourite with bookies

53-47 on tpp.

Throw the rat bastard out.

 

[Tyberious Funk]

Interesting thought, but...

Back in 2007, John Howard not only lost the election but was ousted from Bennelong, a blue ribbon Liberal seat.

In 2018, in the bye-election triggered by Malcolm Turnbull resigning after losing the leadership spill, the Liberals lost the blue-ribbon seat of Wentworth.

In 2019, former PM Tony Abbbot lost the blue-ribbon seat of Warringah.

Liberal leaders don't a great track record of late. Maybe the voters of Kooyong are being proactive and looking to turf him before he becomes leader of the party.

 

[Pie eyed]

Interesting thought, but...

Back in 2007, John Howard not only lost the election but was ousted from Bennelong, a blue ribbon Liberal seat.

In 2018, in the bye-election triggered by Malcolm Turnbull resigning after losing the leadership spill, the Liberals lost the blue-ribbon seat of Wentworth.

In 2019, former PM Tony Abbbot lost the blue-ribbon seat of Warringah.

Liberal leaders don't a great track record of late. Maybe the voters of Kooyong are being proactive and looking to turf him before he becomes leader of the party.

Love to see the campaigner lose Cook.

 

[gringo2011]

Lets face it - as far as climate change is concerned Labor can't be trusted - be better if they had to rely on teals to get anything done. [contra: Stegell is a rusted on NeoLib on basically every other issue)

That is the teal in their name. Blue with green mixed in. They are all basically conservatives who want to have green policy introduced. At the very worst they bring the Liberals back to the centre.

 

[carloss]

Anyone surprised? Anyone????

And I'm guessing "yes" on this one.

Quoting Jenny "Charmaine" Frecklington-Jones is scraping the bottom of the barrel

 

[Blue1980]

Nah.

Circumstances have changed. Libs are skewing even older than before. Beyond a certain point, they themselves will have to change, as their voter base is no longer Boomers or Gen X but Y as well, and we ain't voting for them unless things change rather a lot because we will not own property under the status quo.

The wedding force between age and conservativism is property ownership. If they exclude people from that, they will not see the supposed transition from young left wing to old conservative, and that is provided one accepts the bullshit Churchhillian 'If you aren’t a liberal when you’re young, you have no heart, but if you aren’t a conservative by middle age, you have no head' horseshit.

As I’ve mentioned I’ve veered further left as I’ve gotten older.