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what a stupid comment. i dont think hes a great captain but what fevola and cousins did started before he got there and in no way could he have done anything.
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Judd - Is he a poor captain?
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True. Interesting that they ousted Aker for being relentlessly annoying and uncontrollable, and now Voss & Brown are happy to pick up Fevola.
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Surely, of course. You have sold me.
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These are things you wouldn't understand.
It's not like Richmond has had a decent captain in most posters' memories.
Oh and how is that 5 year plan coming along?
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Richmond supporters even having an opinion about leadership.
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I feel he could have done more to minimise the impact of Fev's actions on B'low night.
Judd is a great player but he's not a great captain. If Fev were to act the way he did under J.Brown's leadership the whole situation would have panned out a lot differently.
Rather than simply smirking at Fev's childish antics Judd should have made an effort to remove a drunken Fevola from the situation.
Judd is a great player but he's not a great captain. If Fev were to act the way he did under J.Brown's leadership the whole situation would have panned out a lot differently.
Rather than simply smirking at Fev's childish antics Judd should have made an effort to remove a drunken Fevola from the situation.
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Judd can't be blamed for everything Fev does, but his inactions on Brownlow night were glaring. He's also been non-existent when Fevola acts like a petulant child on the field.
Jono Brown won't be bullied with any pressure point gags, I assure you.
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Can't blame Judd for this mess, or any other mess that has become apparent during his captancies.
Besides, didn't he say he didn't want to be captain before getting to Carlton and they did it anyway?
Besides, didn't he say he didn't want to be captain before getting to Carlton and they did it anyway?
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BRENDAN Fevola's Brownlow night of shame has been revealed as a 13-hour bender that began on Crown's VIP blackjack tables with skipper Chris Judd.
Police and liquor licensing authorities have spent the past few days reviewing casino surveillance footage as part of their investigation into Crown's handling of the Fevola fiasco.
The Carlton spearhead is first seen gambling with Judd in the high rollers' Mahogany Room at 2pm - about six hours before the Brownlow Medal function began.
The pair are seen sipping drinks and losing about $2000 each playing blackjack.
Police and liquor licensing authorities have spent the past few days reviewing casino surveillance footage as part of their investigation into Crown's handling of the Fevola fiasco.
The Carlton spearhead is first seen gambling with Judd in the high rollers' Mahogany Room at 2pm - about six hours before the Brownlow Medal function began.
The pair are seen sipping drinks and losing about $2000 each playing blackjack.
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No way the finger can be pointed at Judd for the Cousins problems. The finger should be pointed at the coach. Win at all costs even if it means turning a blind eye to a player ruining his life.
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Turkey, Judd can't be blamed for Cousins' addictions or Fev's.
The problem is his inability to handle a brewing problem on the night. He started having drinks with Fev, he was sitting next to Fev smiling nervously when Fev was drinking and drinking, and after the count he was the butt of Fev's jokes.
I don't think a quality captain would be so ineffectual.
The problem is his inability to handle a brewing problem on the night. He started having drinks with Fev, he was sitting next to Fev smiling nervously when Fev was drinking and drinking, and after the count he was the butt of Fev's jokes.
I don't think a quality captain would be so ineffectual.
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Interesting comments being posted............if we apply the logic that Judd is a poor captain because he couldnt control Fev then we should apply the same logic to Brett Kirk and Barry Hall......
if anyone suggests that Kirk is a poor captain then I would question your understanding of our great game...
Judd is a champion player and whether he is a great or poor captain is dependent on your definition....im sure the Cats rate Harley.....but he isnt a matchwinner.......make him a poor captain...I think not...........
if anyone suggests that Kirk is a poor captain then I would question your understanding of our great game...
Judd is a champion player and whether he is a great or poor captain is dependent on your definition....im sure the Cats rate Harley.....but he isnt a matchwinner.......make him a poor captain...I think not...........
Incorrect.
If Hall were to put on a display like Fev did at the b'low i have no doubt that Kirk, a fantastic leader would do more to diffuse the situation than what Judd did.
You can't compare Hall's on-field issues to Fev's off-field ones. Hall punching Staker is a split second instance, Fev's antics at the b'low carried on for hours.
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Very valid question IMO. The Fevola issues especially. This year's Mad Monday it was supposedly Judd who provided Fev with the dildo. Then at the Brownlow Judd was supposedly instigating the drinking. I guess it's for Carlton fans to judge.
Which raises the question of whether Harley should have been held responsible for SJ going off the rails & almost destroying his career. Of course we know the answer is in the negative, but where do you draw the line?
Is Richmond's captain of the day held responsible for Andrew Krakouer's misdemeanour, which ultimately resulted in his conviction & imprisonment?
Those advocating what a great leader Cousins was must surely be turning a blind eye to the off-field misbehaviour of Gardner & Kerr, among others, during his captaincy.
We could play this game for hours, but ultimately players who are going to misbehave will do so regardless of who their captain is. When a personality like Fev gets stuck into the p***, you can suggest to them that they slow down, take it easy, but try to stop them from drinking totally & the odds are it will end up getting nasty & you will do more harm than good.
Fev doesn't need a captain to make decisions for him, he needs counselling to deal with the problem he has when given unfettered access to alcohol. Unfortunately when he gets started, he does not know when to call it quits.
He did step in,as did many others from the club. They tried everything short of rugby tackling him and carrying him out,maybe they should have.
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Fevola was told numerous times that night to go home he didnt listen to anyone... he didnt even listen to his coach.. Judd could of done anything and fev would not of left
Judd is the captain of the team not their 24hr babysitter. Fevola is not your normal person,i dont think anyone could really control him,not even J.Brown.
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This is true. Judd should have been able to sort the problem out on the night, before it got so out of hand. In fact, Carlton as a whole could have handled it better. It doesn't take much for one their players or officials to arrange to have Fevola taken home after the count finished. All they needed to do was call a taxi and have someone escort him home, or tell the Crown staff to stop serving him alcohol.
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These are things you wouldn't understand.
It's not like Richmond has had a decent captain in most posters' memories.
Oh and how is that 5 year plan coming along?
ROFL.
Richmond supporters even having an opinion about leadership.
You couldn't make this sh_t up.
Bwaaahhhhaaaaahhhhhaaaaaa.
Hang On! Hang On.... the topic changed and we are talking about Richmond now....
Speaking of captains.
Richie Vanderberg..... oh please Bwaaahhhhaaaaahhhhhaaaaaa.
Go back to SEN and complain about how you got screwed in trade period.
I love how the hawks give up pick 9 for a player recovering from injury and has only 3 years left. Then trades JK for a slab...
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Brett Kirk was seen pulling Hall away from explosive situations many times this year. Judd was just grinning and drinking with Fev and getting pwned by him on national television.
Like I said, Fev's drinking problems aren't Judd's fault, but they showed how ineffectual Judd is.
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