Kruezer v Luenberger

[Wizard]

Simple really, which one in your opinion will be a better AFL player?

 

[smiddaz123]

Luenberger. Only Carlton supporters will say Lruezer.

The Berger is the best young ruckman in the league by a long way.

 

[Lynch takes a mark]

For Berger to show the most from the top 4 as a 204cm 18 year old ruck is seriously impressive.

 

[Upgrayedd]

Leuenberger is superior to Kruezer in every way
Kruezer is pretty damn talented, but Leuenberger shits all over him

 

[chump]

Have any of you supposed 'experts' seen Kruezer play?

Or are you just basing your opinion on hearsay combined with a deep hatred for Carlton?

 

[Bazzar]

Have any of you supposed 'experts' seen Kruezer play?

Seen him twice this year and he is good but he didnt excite me that much. Cotchin played in both thoes games and was the stand out.

Luenberger is a dead set gun, Kruezer will be very good but not great.

Tanked for nothing

 

[blaise]

THe berger by the length of flemington straight

 

[BABYBOMBERS2007]

Luenberger is a billion times better. Only Carlton supporters will say Kruezer. Kruezer will end up being an average ruckman while Luenberger will end up being a really good ruckman; he could be like Cox/Lade etc.

 

[Carson_Kressley]

the only berger i kno is from hungry jacks who is this berger he is just a pickle compared to kruezer. berger is outa his league if he is to be compared to a number 1 draft pick. at what number did berger n fries get drafted at ????

 

[smiddaz123]

the only berger i kno is from hungry jacks who is this berger he is just a pickle compared to kruezer. berger is outa his league if he is to be compared to a number 1 draft pick. at what number did berger n fries get drafted at ????

Make no mistake, luenberger would've gone number 1 in 2007.

And kruezer would've gone from 7-12 in the 2006 at a guess.

 

[Silvagnis]

How you can judge until Kreuzer has played a game?

You might as well as compare Gibbs to Cotchin and Myers and Selwood to Masten just to win a pointless pissing contest on BF.

For Berger to show the most from the top 4 as a 204cm 18 year old ruck is seriously impressive.

Leuenberger is 19 years old.

Leuenberger is superior to Kruezer in every way
Kruezer is pretty damn talented, but Leuenberger shits all over him

Kreuzer shits all over Leuenberger with his endurance and ability to win the ball on the deck.

Kreuzer and Hampson will be one of the best ruck pairings in the AFL with their speed, agility, ruck work and running ability for big men.

Who needs Leuenberger when they'll be tapping it to Judd, Gibbs, Murphy, Stevens, etc for at least the next five years?

 

[Monkeyboy]

How is the anger at Carlton. The fear is absolutely amazing. When Kreuzer is being called Leuzer and dud before he has even played a game, this fear of the Blues young list is really starting to become quite sad amongst the paranoid at BF.

Both will be guns. I guess if we go by what we saw when they played against each other as kids, you would say Kreuzer, as he gave Leuy a bath. Both will be guns, but most independant and wise judges believe Kreuzer will be one out of the box.

Exciting times for both clubs. And even more so for Carlton as they have Hammer Hampson as the tandem ruckman with the Kruezer in years to come.

 

[Upgrayedd]

How you can judge until Kreuzer has played a game?

TAC Cup and Colts are a good indication. I do watch these things, unlike you who probably read a very biast perspective about the,.

Kreuzer shits all over Leuenberger with his endurance and ability to win the ball on the deck.

Uh...Try again

Who needs Leuenberger when they'll be tapping it to Judd, Gibbs, Murphy, Stevens, etc for at least the next five years?

I dont know, You can have the best midfield (Hint, Carlton dont even have as good as midfield as the eagles/Adelaide/Geelong/Hawthorn/Port Adelaide/ Adelaide/Sydney/St Kilda/Kangaroos yet,So drafting the next josh Fraser insted of the next Dean Cox MIGHT of been a little mistake

 

[Hollow Knight]

Leuenberger did amazing things as a freshman ruckman this year.

His solo efforts against Everitt and Jolly in Round 20 was inspirational stuff.

Would surely have gone Number 1 in this years draft.

It is also becoming extremely tiresome than anyone who dares to rate a non-Carlton player higher than a Carlton player is accused of petty hatred and jealousy.

Get over yourselves FFS.

 

[Kochie 16]

WHat the hell? Rating a 1st year ruckman against a ruckman who hasn't even played at AFL level yet, that's screwed!

 

[Kochie 16]

the only berger i kno is from hungry jacks who is this berger he is just a pickle compared to kruezer. berger is outa his league if he is to be compared to a number 1 draft pick. at what number did berger n fries get drafted at ????

You should keep your mouth shut if your gonna say stuff like that! Tell me how many number 1 draft picks have won the brownlow? Being a number one draft pick has nothing to do with the players abilities or skills. Tell me this also what numbers were players like Chris Grant, James Hird, Ashley McIntosh , Adam Goodes, Simon Black, etc drafted at?

 

[SunKing]

Who needs Leuenberger when they'll be tapping it to Judd, Gibbs, Murphy, Stevens, etc for at least the next five years?

Judd is a gun but who knows with injuries. Gibbs is unproven and may be at the Crows in five years. Murphy could also leave and he may not,you can't know what your list will be like in five years. But you certainly have the makings of a very good midfield.

As to the question Leuenberger.

 

[Hollow Knight]

Gibbs & Kruezer or Leuenberger & Cotchin.

Carlton could have had either of these combinations.

Which would you choose?

 

[CrazyQ]

Gibbs & Kruezer or Leuenberger & Cotchin.

Carlton could have had either of these combinations.

Which would you choose?

Luey and Cotch.

 

[Monkeyboy]

Gibbs & Kruezer or Leuenberger & Cotchin.

Carlton could have had either of these combinations.

Which would you choose?

Carlton got it right. Gibbs will be the standout. But they did have the two first picks, so the should have got it right. So no massive kudos here...just a job well done.

 

[Tarkyn_24]

Kreuzer wouldn't have gone top 10 last year (except maybe at 8 as Collingwood need a ruckman)

Kreuzer will be a star, but it'll be the Lade vs Cox situation.

Lade's easily the second best ruck in the league, but Leuenberger's the Cox, the unbeatable.

 

[Grimreepah]

Who needs Leuenberger when they'll be tapping it to Judd, Gibbs, Murphy, Stevens, etc for at least the next five years?

That doesn't make sense. If you've got good midfielders then you want someone who is good in the ruck to give them first use.

 

[Hollow Knight]

That doesn't make sense. If you've got good midfielders then you want someone who is good in the ruck to give them first use.

Plus, Judd is quality, but I'd take Black, Lappin, Power, Adcock, Johnstone over Judd, Gibbs, Murphy, Stevens, Carazzo anyday.

 

[mattdwyer]

Luenberger is gonna be a star !!

 

[Cyborg_]

Kreuzer wouldn't have gone top 10 last year (except maybe at 8 as Collingwood need a ruckman)

Kreuzer will be a star, but it'll be the Lade vs Cox situation.

Lade's easily the second best ruck in the league, but Leuenberger's the Cox, the unbeatable.

Kreuzer would not have gone in the top 10 of the 2006 draft?

He is about on par with Leuy pre draft who went at 4 (and could have gone at 1 all said and done).

So in my opinion Kreuzer belongs with the top 4 of the 2006 draft.

Not sure where this top 10 stuff comes from. It cant be from people who have watched Kreuzer as a junior. They must be reading the 199cm bio write ups on here and a part time ruck from a nuffy nuffy.