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any way i look at it i see a win. which probably means we go extreme left field to escape that. lol.

from the many descriptions ive heard,

grundy.- elite ruck game winner.
toumpas.- elite mid game winner. kicking skills, composure, and run.

both very likely gone before our pick.

mayes- elite kick pacey tall winger. gets on the scoreboard.

orourke- inside/ outside mid good skills. sounds like a good all-rounder.

wines- big strong inside workhorse.

kennedy- forward/mid.tiny, fast, furious around the ball terrier. great kick, great around goals.

left field would be,

menzel.- hff/ mid. genius natural footballer. super super talent. terrible terrible body.

stringer.- flanker inside mid 3rd tall. strong, long kick ( well was before the leg anyway, i havent heard reports since?) competitive beast. has not looked the same since a terrible leg break.

plowman.- 3rd tall/ kpp/ midfielder. fisher with better mid type skills they say.

shaw.kf.- kick it to me kick it to me type. doesnt do much else.

there are so many good kids at the top of the list i think we couldnt miss as much as you say you cant miss in a subjective situation such as drafting kids.
 
with the americans it wouldnt hurt to look but we know this game is much more than being an athlete.

if you have one guy who can jump 20 cm higher than nicnat, and another guy that jumps 1 cm higher than nicnat, ild take the guy that can actually learn how to play football.

in footy there are so many players who are on equal footing athletically , but are so hugely different in talent. athleticism is a distant distant 4th to ( in no particular order) skills, work ethic, and understanding/ ability/ smarts/ natural feel for the game.
 

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At the last count, there are 3 discussions going on about Jurrah - must be a very important player, or there is nothing else happening.
 
with the americans it wouldnt hurt to look but we know this game is much more than being an athlete.

if you have one guy who can jump 20 cm higher than nicnat, and another guy that jumps 1 cm higher than nicnat, ild take the guy that can actually learn how to play football.

in footy there are so many players who are on equal footing athletically , but are so hugely different in talent. athleticism is a distant distant 4th to ( in no particular order) skills, work ethic, and understanding/ ability/ smarts/ natural feel for the game.
if theres a guy who is 8ft tall ,150kg and can jump just get him. Im sure we could teach him to tap.
 
If he's 8 foot tall, jumping is optional.
 

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any way i look at it i see a win. which probably means we go extreme left field to escape that. lol.

from the many descriptions ive heard,

grundy.- elite ruck game winner.
toumpas.- elite mid game winner. kicking skills, composure, and run.

both very likely gone before our pick.

mayes- elite kick pacey tall winger. gets on the scoreboard.

orourke- inside/ outside mid good skills. sounds like a good all-rounder.

wines- big strong inside workhorse.

kennedy- forward/mid.tiny, fast, furious around the ball terrier. great kick, great around goals.

left field would be,

menzel.- hff/ mid. genius natural footballer. super super talent. terrible terrible body.

stringer.- flanker inside mid 3rd tall. strong, long kick ( well was before the leg anyway, i havent heard reports since?) competitive beast. has not looked the same since a terrible leg break.

plowman.- 3rd tall/ kpp/ midfielder. fisher with better mid type skills they say.

shaw.kf.- kick it to me kick it to me type. doesnt do much else.

there are so many good kids at the top of the list i think we couldnt miss as much as you say you cant miss in a subjective situation such as drafting kids.

Great quick summary

Everyone should read this before posting as a bar mimumum only one you forgot was

Vlaustin: Inside big bodied mid, wins his own ball and kicks long will be top 10 Dangerfield/Buckley like
 
Really like menzel ( he has been playIng pretty good for centrals) but I don't think we can afford another injury prone player
 
Liam Jurrah as quit Melbourne and wants to be traded to Crows, Port, or (maybe out of his control) Her Majesties Hotel.

The fact he doesn't front the court until March is a worry.

How could he commit himself to us, or us to him?

The AFL has an updated list of prospects for us

Updated list of AFL free agents

Shannon Byrnes, Clinton Young, Lynden Dunn, Jared Rivers and laugh if you like -- Justin Koschitzke could be of interest.

Updated list of AFL free agents
 
I think you've left off one other strong contender philthy, especially given Port isn't always a fan of doing the expected...

Jackson Macrae.

He might not be generally regarded as such a high pick yet, but I think he'll get there come draft day. And if Mayes is gone, and you decide Menzel is too big of a 'risk', he'd be my pick for you guys. He has the raw talent and explosiveness that you'd be after in a top 10 pick. Whereas you could perhaps get similar results with later picks in some positions (inside midfielder). And there is no concern over height either, he is 188cm not a 174cm midget. :p

And if you want a quick idea of what to expect, I've made the comparison to Steele Sidebottom and Humble Minion (the best Victorian 'scout' BigFooty has) said Steve Johnson.
 
Shannon Byrnes, Clinton Young, Lynden Dunn, Jared Rivers and laugh if you like -- Justin Koschitzke could be of interest.

Apart from Clinton Young, those would all be 'grab your torch and pitchforks and head down to Alberton' level blunders.
 
Apart from Clinton Young, those would all be 'grab your torch and pitchforks and head down to Alberton' level blunders.

You & I see footy differently, I reckon I'm correct.
 

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yeah, i love everything i hear about macrae. tall, fast, great kick, and racked up some of the biggest numbers in champs. my greatest sorrow was you pushing him up your draft order out of reach of ports second rounder chris. for once i hope your terribly terribly wrong lol.

i keep thinking orourke will be the way we will go but now im thinking he is going to go to melb or even more likely to the dogs. im really liking the top ten this year.
 
Don't write off Toumpas dropping to our first pick.

Whitfield to go #1, Grundy #2.

Viney to go #3. O'Rourke or Wines to go #4.

Bulldogs to take Stringer and a tall.

Then.

"Pick #7. Port Adelaide. Jimmy Toumpas. Woodville West-Torrens."

We can only hope...
 
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