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Schulzenfest said:
I'm not usually the guy to complain about big dollars or big years on contracts, but $800k a year to Will Hayward is insane. He's not even that good.
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Ridiculous money for a bloke who’s basically a 15th-20th player picked type. Even adjusting for players in their prime getting more money than 22 yr olds and free agency bump.



Macca19 said:
Outrageous money for someone whos kicked 30 goals in a year once
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lol what’s that convert to adjusting for port deflation? 20ish goals… as a career high?
 
wayb2912 said:
We need to target consistent senior players. We do not need young players, we need a few solid 28-32 year olds, with preferable premiership experience. Pickett and Hardwick were the difference in 2004

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Hardness at the ball is required. The infusion of Hardwick (on the ball) and Pickett (Wing) plus Carr (on the ball) made a huge difference to the team.
 

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Isaac Cumming is out for another 6 weeks with a hamstring. His year is becoming a write off. He was meant to be playing wing this year. His price would be dropping.
 
wayb2912 said:
We need to target consistent senior players. We do not need young players, we need a few solid 28-32 year olds, with preferable premiership experience. Pickett and Hardwick were the difference in 2004

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Why would we want guys close to retirement when our new coach comes in?
 
Holden Hillbilly said:
Sydney forward Will Hayward is set to receive some big offers to leave the Harbour City.
The restricted free agent kicked four big goals in Saturday’s win over GWS at the SCG and Kane Cornes thinks a club will pay him $800,000 a year to leave the club he’s played 145 games for.
Cornes spoke about Hayward’s decision with Channel Nine’s Tom Morris on SEN Breakfast where they discussed what the Swan could receive if he leaves compared to re-signing with Sydney.
Morris added that Hayward, provided he were to leave the Swans, will only move to a club that’s in the premiership window and named four potential destinations for him to pick from.
“If he does leave the Sydney Swans and it's still an if, I doubt that it will be a club down the bottom of the ladder.
“The clubs that we know are interested are both Adelaide clubs – he is from South Australia … you put Port maybe ahead of Adelaide in the premiership race although maybe your mind has changed.
“Carlton is very keen on him and then there'll be a couple of other Melbourne clubs as well that'll be interested, including Melbourne.”
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The whole article hinges on something Kane Cornes “thinks”. He has no information of what clubs may actually be willing to fork out
 
PeacefulWarrior said:
Why would we want guys close to retirement when our new coach comes in?
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Yeah I can’t think of anything worse than putting this clubs future in a deeper hole to try to salvage something for Hinkley.

We dodged a bullet with Grundy, not that he isn’t in good form, he is, but he wouldn’t fix what’s wrong with this team currently we would just be left holding an albatross of a contract for an aging player once Hinkley got booted.
 
Chrizzt said:
Doubt it will affect the Burgoyne boys anyway as they will very likely not get bid on in the first round.

Any changes to F/S bidding should, and will most likely, target bids on players in the first round - none of this 5 third round picks to match a first bullshit.

Perhaps it would make sense to remove the 20% discount for matching bids, or maybe keep the 20% discount only for points matched by a first round pick (i.e. if you use multiple second/third round picks to match you get no discount). Most clubs are already trading out of the first round for a premium of later picks, so makes no sense to reward them with further surplus points with a discount.
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The change will be you need a 1st round pick to match a 1st round pick.
 
Hayward is a fine player, but even discounting the outrageous salary, Hayward is just another "not quite good enough for a midfielder so we will play him HFF". Yeah, he'd be nice depth and could contribute a bit but we need genuine small forwards with natural forward craft. Unfortunately there's just not a lot of them out there which are gettable - Pickett would be the dream, but maybe a Jesse Motlop or Ben Ainsworth could fill that gap for the time being.
 
Chrizzt said:
Hayward is a fine player, but even discounting the outrageous salary, Hayward is just another "not quite good enough for a midfielder so we will play him HFF". Yeah, he'd be nice depth and could contribute a bit but we need genuine small forwards with natural forward craft. Unfortunately there's just not a lot of them out there which are gettable - Pickett would be the dream, but maybe a Jesse Motlop or Ben Ainsworth could fill that gap for the time being.
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This is an odd post, because Hayward has literally always been a forward, but Ben Ainsworth is exactly the 'not quite good enough for a mid so we'll play him as a HFF' you're describing Hayward as being.
 
We already have a small forward with natural forward craft, his name is Jed McEntee.
 
Schulzenfest said:
This is an odd post, because Hayward has literally always been a forward, but Ben Ainsworth is exactly the 'not quite good enough for a mid so we'll play him as a HFF' you're describing Hayward as being.
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Ainsworth started that way but has played much deeper forward the last few years. Hayward still gets lots of touches up the ground.

But sure, I should have made clearer that we'd have to be scraping the bottom of the barrel if we can't get Pickett.
 

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rumoursofwinter said:
Isaac Cumming is out for another 6 weeks with a hamstring. His year is becoming a write off. He was meant to be playing wing this year. His price would be dropping.
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The hardest part is convincing players to move to SA: not an issue for Cummings with his Broken Hill origins.
 
Carlton has a six-year offer for Sydney restricted free agent Will Hayward, who is one of footy's most wanted signatures this year.
 
Hayward is hardly scrapping barrel. Is a specialised high HF (drilled in sydney system), if you can get him as a free agent, in a year when we don't have a 1st rd go for it.
 
The Crows and Power might have to stump up $800,000 a year - or more - to lure Harry Perryman out of western Sydney.(Tiser)
 
I would add a few 000s to my contract too, but seeing as it starts with 0 I don't think I will reap much benefit.
 
If we lose McKenzie, Dixon, Boak, Narkle this year. Possibly also Clurey. That's a massive hole in our depth for a list that's already quite shallow. Evans, Jackson, McCallum would also have to be at risk.

So I'm all aboard grabbing some players through free agency, and even plucking a few depth players from the SANFL and VFL.

We've not got a pick until the 2nd round again. So once again we'll be filling the list with more speculative, deep draft choices which continue to lower the quality of our list and decrease internal competition. So anything we can do to limit the massive quantity of players that have very questionable futures would be great.
 
Coobk001 said:
If we lose McKenzie, Dixon, Boak, Narkle this year. Possibly also Clurey. That's a massive hole in our depth for a list that's already quite shallow. Evans, Jackson, McCallum would also have to be at risk.

So I'm all aboard grabbing some players through free agency, and even plucking a few depth players from the SANFL and VFL.

We've not got a pick until the 2nd round again. So once again we'll be filling the list with more speculative, deep draft choices which continue to lower the quality of our list and decrease internal competition. So anything we can do to limit the massive quantity of players that have very questionable futures would be great.
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Yea this is a huge issue with us.

We already have multiple drafts worth of speculative picks Lord, Jackson, Burgoyne, Marshall, McCallum, Walsh, McEntee, Evans, Visentini, Scully, Anastasopoulos, Lorenz, Charleson and Sinn (first round pick but during covid). That’s a third of our list.

We have a mid to late second rounder for the draft to replace the above. Teams are built around first rounders with a handful of successful later picks. Late picks have to be trialed, graded and then a decision made. We just don’t have the draft capital and more late picks are not going to help.


Now is definitely the year to chase FAs hard.
 
Will Snelling would be borderline best 22. He would be available in the mid season draft. Its hard to know what you are trying to achieve with the list because of finals are scary, depth players are terrible hinkley.
 
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