List Mgmt. List Management 2024-25

[Revan11]

Did Kysaiah Pickett sit at the Port table?

Surely not?

 

[avs]

Rankine was drafted in3

Rankine is 2 years younger than Rozee and he was drafted by GCS in 2020 draft .

Got it , somehow I mixed it up .

 

[Ford Fairlane]

C'mon guys, I was kidding

 

[longdonkey]

So here is the big question about delistings - how many father/sons or NGA player are going to get listed.

It sounds like Francou is the least likely yet to me he is the type of player that Carr might like

I don't watch under 18's

Burgoyne
Montgomery
Barrett
Francou

Yay or Nay?

 

[PortAdelFC1997]

I've taken a few days to think since I have a lot of time now for obvious reasons but do you guys reckon Port should simply reset and suffer a few years of pain to regenerate this average list because at this rate, we're heading towards no man's land with the amount of B and C grade players.

Our talented players are hard carrying this team and sometimes to the detriment of the list's true value in my opinion. We're not good enough to win a flag with this list but we are not bad enough to bottom out. Something has to give. If Port are heading towards this direction, Ken and a few other coaches must go.

There is no doubt that we have to start trimming off players who have no value in bringing us a flag e.g. Dixon, McEntee etc. and unfortunately we have to give up good players to acquire talent. Pains me to say that losing Houston might be more beneficial to Port in the long run even if I don't want to lose him since he is our best kick and those skillsets don't grow on trees but the harsh reality is that Port needs talent in and with him wanting to go home despite insisting he is staying, it's probably in Port's best interest to trade him.

 

[Addy23]

So here is the big question about delistings - how many father/sons or NGA player are going to get listed.

It sounds like Francou is the least likely yet to me he is the type of player that Carr might like

I don't watch under 18's

Burgoyne
Montgomery
Barrett
Francou

Yay or Nay?

If it were totally up to me, I'd draft all 4. All 4 would've been drafted for sure in last year's draft imo.

My predictions are that (no Intel just based on what I've read)

Perryman goes to Pies
Cumming goes to Crows
Richards stays at Collingwood
We pay overs for Lukosius because we need to trade someone in

Outgoings (either retirement/trade/delist)
Dixon
McKenzie
Clurey
Soldo
Williams*
Houston
McEntee
FEvans*
McCallum
Kyle Marshall (dependent on how many picks we have)

*These are reliant on Perryman and Richards. If we get Perryman, Williams will be traded/delisted. If we get Richards, FEvans will be traded/delisted.

As much as people keep banging on about 2 firsts for Houston, I actually think we might be in a much better position if we got a top 10 pick plus 2 early - mid 2nd rounders. Gives us more flexibility and talent imo.

 

[Total Power]

If it were totally up to me, I'd draft all 4. All 4 would've been drafted for sure in last year's draft imo.

My predictions are that (no Intel just based on what I've read)

Perryman goes to Pies
Cumming goes to Crows
Richards stays at Collingwood
We pay overs for Lukosius because we need to trade someone in

Outgoings (either retirement/trade/delist)
Dixon
McKenzie
Clurey
Soldo
Williams*
Houston
McEntee
FEvans*
McCallum
Kyle Marshall (dependent on how many picks we have)

*These are reliant on Perryman and Richards. If we get Perryman, Williams will be traded/delisted. If we get Richards, FEvans will be traded/delisted.

As much as people keep banging on about 2 firsts for Houston, I actually think we might be in a much better position if we got a top 10 pick plus 2 early - mid 2nd rounders. Gives us more flexibility and talent imo.

Williams (R) and McEntee are contracted till the end of 2025. They cant be traded cause no one wants them.

 

[Addy23]

Williams (R) and McEntee are contracted till the end of 2025. They cant be traded cause no one wants them.

McEntee can be delisted as long as his contract is paid out and Williams can be too. But there's a little bit of interest in Williams. McEntee is also a rookie btw

 

[Total Power]

McEntee can be delisted as long as his contract is paid out and Williams can be too. But there's a little bit of interest in Williams. McEntee is also a rookie btw

Have we ever paid out someones contract before? McEntee isn't going anywhere unfortunately.

 

[Addy23]

Have we ever paid out someones contract before? McEntee isn't going anywhere unfortunately.

Motlop is the one that comes to mind as the most recent one. If Ken goes, McEntee won't stay imo

 

[davesnothere]

So here is the big question about delistings - how many father/sons or NGA player are going to get listed.

It sounds like Francou is the least likely yet to me he is the type of player that Carr might like

I don't watch under 18's

Burgoyne
Montgomery
Barrett
Francou

Yay or Nay?

Rome, Barrett and Montgomery. Think Barrett the only one of any interest in the main draft maybe late 2nd or likely 3rd round with Rome and Montgomery nothing rookie picks.

Francou of interest but maybe takes the Evans path.

 

[raptalia]

Soldo is contracted until the end of 2025 so if he cannot get a regular game next year he will walk anyway. We might as well get something while we have some bargaining power. Soldo is 28 and has played 65 games across 7 seasons so he is not exactly hot property. He is probably only a depth player where ever he goes. If we can jag a third round pick for him or use him as part of a trade we will have done well.

If we let Soldo go we will need to cover the ruck depth so we could rookie list an experienced ruckman from one of the minor leagues. I am not sure if Harry Boyd who won the 2024 Magarey Medal would fit the bill? The alternative is to look at AFL trades or the National Draft. The problem with drafting an 18 year old is the wait time while the kid develops. It has taken Visentini three years to get to the stage where he is almost ready for AFL football.

 

[Addy23]

Rome, Barrett and Montgomery. Think Barrett the only one of any interest in the main draft maybe late 2nd or likely 3rd round with Rome and Montgomery nothing rookie picks.

Francou of interest but maybe takes the Evans path.

I like the idea but just think a F/S prospect would be rookied and then put on the list rather than MSD cause I don't think you can have first rights on F/S pick in MSD

 

[1954]

With Dixon finished, an obvious cloud over Marshall, and Lord struggling it would in my opinion be foolhardy of the club to give Scully the lemonade and sars.

Tall forwards are historically the hardest to find, he can take a mark, is usually a very reliable kick and it would be extremely difficult to be an effective forward in the worst Maggie's team in over 100 years and which could have struggled to get the ball inside the forward 50 with any method if they were playing against the Kanmantoo magoos!

 

[RangaInTeal]

So here is the big question about delistings - how many father/sons or NGA player are going to get listed.

It sounds like Francou is the least likely yet to me he is the type of player that Carr might like

I don't watch under 18's

Burgoyne
Montgomery
Barrett
Francou

Yay or Nay?

Barrett the most likely, pending when/if bid comes in, Montgomery then Burgoyne probably rookie draft and still likely, Francou was a LONG way back but I would rather have a father son on the list than some mercenary from the Falcons or Sturt.

I would love all 4 on the list, think we will have 2 definitely, wouldn’t be surprised with 3.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Hinkley and Davies shouldn't be involved in list management decisions given the doubts on their respective futures.

 

[RangaInTeal]

With Dixon finished, an obvious cloud over Marshall, and Lord struggling it would in my opinion be foolhardy of the club to give Scully the lemonade and sars.

Tall forwards are historically the hardest to find, he can take a mark, is usually a very reliable kick and it would be extremely difficult to be an effective forward in the worst Maggie's team in over 100 years, which could have struggled to get the ball inside the forward 50 with any method if they were playing against the Kanmantoo magoos!

Absolutely, but nothing would surprise me under this regime! The no DH policy has returned so much success…

 

[RangaInTeal]

Hinkley and Davies shouldn't be involved in list management decisions given the doubts on their respective futures.

But then we would be leaving it to Cornes, Lobbe and Hartlett, who are all compromised themselves…

I would have Carr, Cripps and Goldsack, maybe Tredrea as a ‘director’.

 

[Coobk001]

I feel like Boak would've been told by now that he's going to be phased out, and not a priority for selection next year, so if he's happy to stay knowing he could play a bunch of SANFL then he can stay.

In a perfect world personally I think being able to keep that calibre of player as depth and around for quality training partner, and development assistance would be great, but it isn't typically the type of thing we see. Much better having him around than Pick 435

 

[Bevoman]

McEntee can be delisted as long as his contract is paid out and Williams can be too. But there's a little bit of interest in Williams. McEntee is also a rookie btw

You need a reality check, you do not pay out players to de-list 'em; alas, we are stuck with Jed for next year

 

[Ports1870]

You need a reality check, you do not pay out players to de-list 'em; alas, we are stuck with Jed for next year

We did it with Pasini last year

 

[JimmyBC]

Damien Hardwick being so willing to let Lukosius out the door is a massive red flag for me, he's weeding out the over paid soft utensils that have taken Gold Coast nowhere.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

But then we would be leaving it to Cornes, Lobbe and Hartlett, who are all compromised themselves…

I would have Carr, Cripps and Goldsack, maybe Tredrea as a ‘director’.

Why does it have to be done the day after the season ends?

 

[Peninsula Boy]

Have we ever paid out someones contract before? McEntee isn't going anywhere unfortunately.

I think someone mentioned Pasini was paid out for the last year of his contract IIRC.

 

[RangaInTeal]

I feel like Boak would've been told by now that he's going to be phased out, and not a priority for selection next year, so if he's happy to stay knowing he could play a bunch of SANFL then he can stay.

In a perfect world personally I think being able to keep that calibre of player as depth and around for quality training partner, and development assistance would be great, but it isn't typically the type of thing we see. Much better having him around than Pick 435

This is what the AFL has lost, the club touch. It would be great to have a Senior list that sits outside the salary cap, blokes 32 or older that have played 100 games at the club. More coaches, more community engagement the better standard played week to week. Tasmania are going to come in and pull coaches and resources from established programs, how good would it be to be up skilling our retiring players opposed to pushing them into retirement.

This senior list set up is similar to what Brisbane have done with Hodge and Gunston but obviously not meeting the 100 game criteria. But also giving up a list spot to a kid who could have possibly developed. We did it with Goldsack.

I am sure the AFL already have a plan in place for Tasmania, but this would create an opportunity for greater exposure for more to increase the pool of better educated coaches entering the lower levels of not retained within the AFL System.