Matt Rendell...

[TerryWallet]

Yeah we don't know any of that though. The headlines have not been screaming 'Rendell makes unspecified comments!!!!'

The pathetic media is a seperate issue entirely. God, this country is terribly served by our media.

For anyone saying "stop repeating yourself Terry" , i'll make this point for the last time:

Trigg has said he would rather not make the whole conversation public because it is not kind on Rendell.

Rendell can clearly call that bluff if indeed it is a bluff.

Only he can ask for that.

 

[RegHickeyStand]

Eventually his emotion will subside and if he is correct that he said nothing to deserve the sack from his particular job, he will demand full disclosure.

Alternatively, If he said stupid things in a converstion that has cost him his particular job, he will publicly make his best case and then ask for it all to just stop.

By the way, i don't think he really has to "clear" his name so to say. I don't think anyone has called him a racist or a bad person. Just that he said some stupid things that made his particular job untenable and asked him to resign.

AFL people have already put out that Rendell is a racist. Its more than likely the AFL boss pressured for his sacking.

Rendell got on TV and totally contradicted Demetriou on several key points.

Its up to Demetriou to defend himself, and so far he has done a near non-existent effort at that. I read in the HS today Demetriou is backtracking and admitting Rendell was not given an opportunity to disavow the comments he made, and merely given a couple of hours to think about resigning, or getting sacked.

AFAIK Demetriou got up and lied on national TV about the whole affair. Until he explains himself, I won't change my mind on that.

Rendell has said his piece. Its up to Demetriou to explain.

 

[Silvagnis]

The pathetic media is a seperate issue entirely. God, this country is terribly served by our media.

For anyone saying "stop repeating yourself Terry" , i'll make this point for the last time:

Trigg has said he would rather not make the whole conversation public because it is not kind on Rendell.

Rendell can clearly call that bluff if indeed it is a bluff.

Only he can ask for that.

Since Rendells' already gone, what difference would it make?

They already forced his resignation.

And he was only going to recruit for this year before leaving.

Nothing but spin to support their decision.

The AFl and Trigg are as honest as the injury reports the clubs produce.

 

[RegHickeyStand]

If what Rendell said was so bad and worse than what we have heard, where is the confrontation between Mifsud and Rendell? If not at that meeting, then sometime afterwards.

Why aren't other people getting up and saying this about Rendell, or did Rendell just discover he was a racist at that meeting?

If what Rendell said is so bad, how is Mifsud still his friend (Rendell thinks they are still friends), without there being a confrontation/apology somewhere along the line.

=> beat-up.

 

[Plugger35]

But he doesn't show any inclination atm of asking for the full story to be told.

He is just emotionally asking for it all to end. Which i sincerely feel for him.

What he can't seem to comprehend is that what he thought he was saying to a mate, he was also saying to the AFL indigenous officer.

If he wants "the full story" to be released, simply request that Vlad or Trigg release the report or say exactly what is in it.

He hasn't done this.

He just wishes it all went away.

I'm pretty sure Rendell realised that Mifsud was the AFL indigenous officer, that was why he was discussing the issues surrounding the recruitment of indigenous players with him. He is mates with him though so probably spoke to him in a less formal manner than to someone that wasn't a mate. Rendell said he spoke to him the same way he always has which is why he was suprised that he would be offended. More likely it was the other bloke that was offended, if anyone was actually offended at all.

Also do you think that Demetriou or Trigg would release the full report on what Rendell apparently said just because he requested it? I doubt it, especially if there were no other offensive comments made by Rendell or at least none that would be offensive when taken in context, which is what many people suspect.

 

[weevil]

Over the past decade or so there has been a steady increase in the number of indigenous players and increasingly players from remote communities. The Liam Jurrah situation has highlighted just how difficult this adjustment can be and together with a number of players leaving the AFL to return home I believe it's fair to say that as a group AFL recruiters would be concerned at the attrition rate.

Can anyone come up with a nonracist reason why not one single club even put this guy on their rookie list?

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Is Demetriou asking hard questions about why someone so obviously spectacularly talented was overlooked by every club?

Or is he just taking public pot-shots at easy targets?

 

[RegHickeyStand]

The pathetic media is a seperate issue entirely. God, this country is terribly served by our media.

For anyone saying "stop repeating yourself Terry" , i'll make this point for the last time:

Trigg has said he would rather not make the whole conversation public because it is not kind on Rendell.

Rendell can clearly call that bluff if indeed it is a bluff.

Only he can ask for that.

Whole conversation? Who took minutes of the meeting?

Let me put it this way: if Demetriou and Trigg want to gild the lilly to strengthen their case, then there is a problem because the story thehas Mifsud copping a racist blast from Rendell and saying nothing back, demanding no apology, or cutting him off as friend. And the other fellow present doesn't even bother to make a report. Stretching credibility.

 

[RonSon]

This would be the Aboriginal Academy that is now being set up ie. the Michael Long Academy or whatever it is going to be called.

No, it isn't. It was an idea Matt Rendell had and was raised in the meeting with the two AFL officials.



http://www.fiveaa.com.au/audio_steven-trigg-with-the-last-word-on-matt-rendell_104600?s=22

 

[RonSon]

Yeah we don't know any of that though. The headlines have not been screaming 'Rendell makes unspecified comments!!!!'

Stephen Trigg talked about it in the interview I linked earlier. And yes it does seem the media have missed the point, or atleast muddied the waters surrounding the story.

 

[weevil]

Stephen Trigg talked about it in the interview I linked earlier. And yes it does seem the media have missed the point, or atleast muddied the waters surrounding the story.

Yeah, there may be more to it and that is fine.

But a number of people from Demetriou and Trigg down have thrown up their hands and said his published comments are racist and that no context could possibly alter that.

I think that is clearly not true.

...Meanwhile probably the most talented player in last year’s draft, who came from a remote aboriginal community, was ignored by all clubs. Yet we do not hear a peep about that.

 

[RegHickeyStand]

No, it isn't. It was an idea Matt Rendell had and was raised in the meeting with the two AFL officials.


http://www.fiveaa.com.au/audio_steven-trigg-with-the-last-word-on-matt-rendell_104600?s=22

Interesting interview. What Trigg almost said on a few occasions was interesting. Especially the bit where said the AFL didn't tell them what to do, but the AFL let them know about it and the AFL were very, very angry about it.

Wink, wink, nudge, nudge.

Also Trigg said he talked to Mifsud, and Mifsud saifd he was very offended. That doesn't make sense that Mifsud did not take it up with Rendell, and that he never reported it until much later, and that Rendell was absolutely clueless about the whole affair.

It sounds to me that that Ali fellow would Mifsud up.

 

[IanG]

No, it isn't. It was an idea Matt Rendell had and was raised in the meeting with the two AFL officials.

Yes but the idea is the same isn't it.

 

[weevil]

Interesting interview. What Trigg almost said on a few occasions was interesting. Especially the bit where said the AFL didn't tell them what to do, but the AFL let them know about it and the AFL were very, very angry about it.

Wink, wink, nudge, nudge.

Also agreed that Rendell was a scapegoat, was hung out to dry, did not deserve it and that he had to go simply because they could not contain the media perception if he stayed.

 

[RegHickeyStand]

Also agreed that Rendell was a scapegoat, was hung out to dry, did not deserve it and that he had to go simply because they could not contain the media perception if he stayed.

I have a feeling Ali, because he didn't know Rendell, was the one that was offended at the meeting.

After a while Mifsud might have questioned what he heard with Ali in his ear.

What Trigg heard from Mifsud last week is a recollection that has had 8 weeks to fester and grow. Also with Demetriou egging him on. Interesting that Trigg could not contact Mifsud at first.

Either that, or Rendell is unbelievably dumb and racist, and Mifsud will just sit there and will take anything that is dished up to him at meetings.

 

[Roby]

This is my reponse to this post in the Adelaide forum. I hope some of you with now keep those tinfoil hats back in the cupboard for now.

Good post and pretty much the views I held the whole time through out this whole process.

Two more things I would add.

Racism comes in many shapes as this forum evidently suggests. Some people attribute the racism statement to something akin with complete hatred and a want to genocide. Even after certain people in this forum have explained why taking kids under-16 from indigenous communities is being culturally insensitive, even though it's not like the Stolen Generation, the fundamental principles are there. This is the form of racism which is uneducated racism or ignorant racism, and it can be just as dangerous because if a person is ignorant and chooses to remain that way, no education will allow for greater cultural awareness.

Secondly in regards to Rendell, this is in my opinion where he falls in. Considering he is an AFL recruiter it would've been very damaging and we may have taken steps backwards after a lot years of progress on racism. Many people were to quick to judge Demetriou over duplicty but not so Rendell. Even though Rendell gave contraticing answers in his interview and on his last interview on Triple M radio he wen't against what he said on Footy Classified. He said 'other things had been said,' (as to not further implicate his mate) as opposed to 'I can't remember'.

Now reason of deduction will suggest to you this is the most logical missing piece of the puzzle. If Rendell has admitted to making multiple offensive comments, it appears that Michael Gleeson's article The Age was correct in the first place, that Misfud knew for certain this would ruin Rendall and that Demetriou and Trigg had asked for him to resile his comments, in other words, retract his statements. But he obviously didn't but then, after saying he wasn't aware of it, he admits to have done so and this was obviously the smart thing to.

Rendell knows now he has made a mistake, maybe not inherently but given the tumultuous period he has gone through, part of him will probably realise this now. And the best wisdom he has given is that you now support the Adelaide Football club as they need your support above all else.

 

[Ron The Bear]

Racism comes in many shapes as this forum evidently suggests.

What's your stance on Jeff Kennett's golliwog fetish?

 

[aussierulesrules]

Can anyone come up with a nonracist reason why not one single club even put this guy on their rookie list?

Because they thought he was going to either go home, or not be able to adjust to the requirements of AFL footy. They have psych profiles and so on and he may simply have failed them big-time. I have no doubt that plenty of "white's" would have failed those before and been considered too much of a risk and consequently not been drafted.

If it was all about his "race" then no other "indigenous players" would have been drafted either, but they were, so obviously there were other issues there that we haven't been told about.

Either that, or Rendell was right and things are already heading in the direction he was trying to prevent things from going down.

 

[King Elvis]

Weevil, who is that kid?

Mason?

 

[TAITA]

Even after certain people in this forum have explained why taking kids under-16 from indigenous communities is being culturally insensitive, even though it's not like the Stolen Generation, the fundamental principles are there. This is the form of racism which is uneducated racism or ignorant racism, and it can be just as dangerous because if a person is ignorant and chooses to remain that way, no education will allow for greater cultural awareness.

Nothing comes without sacrifice Roby - no matter what color your skin.

To tell you the truth I have found your posts in this thread highly offensive and insensitive - labelling all and sundry 'racists' and 'bigots' whom differ from or question your view.

Yes there is one racist in this thread, and rather than 'educating' - he is setting the cause backwards.

 

[weevil]

Weevil, who is that kid?

Mason?

Yup.

 

[weevil]

Racism comes in many shapes as this forum evidently suggests.

Roby third time I have asked you directly: Do you realise that warning that bad things are going to happen is not the same as saying you want bad things to happen?

 

[weevil]

Because they thought he was going to either go home, or not be able to adjust to the requirements of AFL footy. They have psych profiles and so on and he may simply have failed them big-time. I have no doubt that plenty of "white's" would have failed those before and been considered too much of a risk and consequently not been drafted.

If it was all about his "race" then no other "indigenous players" would have been drafted either, but they were, so obviously there were other issues there that we haven't been told about.

Either that, or Rendell was right and things are already heading in the direction he was trying to prevent things from going down.

Essentially I think both your scenarios could be seen as right.

 

[JoondalupJ]

Well had a break from work, watched Matt Rendell on the computer footy classified,my comment, Andrew Dimetriou hang your head in shame . You and some others have destroyed a damn good bloke , he is not a racist by any stretch of the imagination.

Sooner have a hands on person with some compassion than Dimetriou with his bulldust polished CEO attitude , when he really knows nothing, to comment on the Couch the way he did, well it means he needs to leave the job , he,s a beaurocrat ratbag.

 

[philohk]

This is my reponse to this post in the Adelaide forum. I hope some of you with now keep those tinfoil hats back in the cupboard for now.

Good post and pretty much the views I held the whole time through out this whole process.

Two more things I would add.

Racism comes in many shapes as this forum evidently suggests. Some people attribute the racism statement to something akin with complete hatred and a want to genocide. Even after certain people in this forum have explained why taking kids under-16 from indigenous communities is being culturally insensitive, even though it's not like the Stolen Generation, the fundamental principles are there. This is the form of racism which is uneducated racism or ignorant racism, and it can be just as dangerous because if a person is ignorant and chooses to remain that way, no education will allow for greater cultural awareness.

Why? How many racists are there in this thread? I believe that everyone is created equal and that we all deserve equal opportunities. I've argued many times with racists as they make me so angry, to the point where I find it difficult to spend time with a couple of members of my own family. I've worked in two foreign countries with people from other backgrounds, and was born to non-Australian-born parents. I also believe that Rendell has been hung out to dry. Does that last fact make me a racist? I think you're slagging off a lot of people with this and it smacks of your own neuroses.

Secondly in regards to Rendell, this is in my opinion where he falls in. Considering he is an AFL recruiter it would've been very damaging and we may have taken steps backwards after a lot years of progress on racism. Many people were to quick to judge Demetriou over duplicty but not so Rendell. Even though Rendell gave contraticing answers in his interview and on his last interview on Triple M radio he wen't against what he said on Footy Classified. He said 'other things had been said,' (as to not further implicate his mate) as opposed to 'I can't remember'.

Can you give concrete examples of where Rendell contradicted himself? He said on FC it was a 20-minute conversation, and the remark he explained didn't take that long, so we can assume, as he said, 'other things were said' that he can't remember. That doesn't mean he made more possibly-racist remarks or that he's contradicting himself. I think you have a problem with language, which also shows in your misuse and confusion of similar words.

Now reason of deduction will suggest to you this is the most logical missing piece of the puzzle. If Rendell has admitted to making multiple offensive comments, it appears that Michael Gleeson's article The Age was correct in the first place, that Misfud knew for certain this would ruin Rendall and that Demetriou and Trigg had asked for him to resile his comments, in other words, retract his statements. But he obviously didn't but then, after saying he wasn't aware of it, he admits to have done so and this was obviously the smart thing to.

See above - he didn't admit that at all.

Rendell knows now he has made a mistake, maybe not inherently but given the tumultuous period he has gone through, part of him will probably realise this now. And the best wisdom he has given is that you now support the Adelaide Football club as they need your support above all else.

Not inherently? I don't really know what you're talking about here. I think you look for racists where you don't need to.

By the way, do you think Rendell has or was advocating the one-white-parent policy? I don't think any of your posts have addressed that.

 

[Stamos]

From Hun

Beyond warning AFL recruiting managers would ultimately recruit only Aboriginal players with one white parent, Rendell offended Mifsud and Fahour by suggesting a pre-draft academy be established for under-16 indigenous players who would be re-located in Melbourne.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/mor...or-racial-fracas/story-e6frf9jf-1226306434134


If this is true, and they were offended by the suggestion of putting kids into top schools in Melbourne, then they should be sacked from the AFL