MCG vs non-MCG tenants

[Rotayjay]

In my view, opening a smaller stadium is not the solution to teams that can't fill Marvel - that's not the stadium's fault.

 

[banzai]

Interesting how much better the MCG teams have done in general than the teams that moved to Marvel.

 

[Rotayjay]

What does using a smaller Melbourne stadium do for smaller clubs that Marvel doesn't, apart from looking less empty on TV? Charging a higher price per seat or membership due to supply and demand?

 

[MC Extra Dollop]

What does using a smaller Melbourne stadium do for smaller clubs that Marvel doesn't, apart from looking less empty on TV? Charging a higher price per seat or membership due to supply and demand?

Yeah, to improve the experience for those sitting on their couches who (somewhat ironically) can't handle seeing a few empty bays at the stadium on TV, spend that extra few hundred mill on CGI'ing a packed stadium for the low drawing games in Melbourne.

 

[doppleganger]

What does using a smaller Melbourne stadium do for smaller clubs that Marvel doesn't, apart from looking less empty on TV? Charging a higher price per seat or membership due to supply and demand?

Have a ground that actually is full, has atmosphere and is an intimidating venue for the travelling opposition...create an actual home ground advantage.

 

[underthestars]

another perspective is victorian mcg tenants vs non tenants. Of 6 meetings the tenants have won four, with essendon the only docklands tenant saluting in its first year against a vastly inferior melbourne team. to call them a docklands tenant is a bit of a stretch though, as they played 10 h&a games at the g - the vast majority of their victorian games. st kilda in 2010 played just 2. the dogs in 2016 played just 2 (perhaps lucky to meet an interstate team in the final) so anyone stating the mcg is a home ground for all victorian clubs is delusional.
so the only vic team that played less than 10 games in a season at the g and saluted is geelong, who still played 6 h&a games there that season.
too small a sample perhaps, but look at the docklands team record there vs at the g. pretty obvious its a big disadvantage not to play finals in your home ground and vice versa. i'd say the docklands tenants have the worst deal in the afl regarding finals.

 

[What else we can do]

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This year eight clubs will play "home" games at the MCG

Carlton
Collingwood
Essendon
Geelong
Hawthorn
Melbourne
Richmond
St Kilda

How many games at a ground do you need to play for it to be familiar? How many make you a tenant? Are Carlton with 9 MCG games a tenant?

The MCG is no teams sole home ground.

It predominantly hosts large neutral BLOCKBUSTERS where both sets of supporters have ample access to seats and the normal factors that generate an advantage to the "home" team dont hold true.

Home ground advantage only occurs against interstate sides.

 

[Freomaniac]

I would rather a non-Victorian club because I think there is a home state and home ground advantage, but the record shows that playing an MCG tenant on grand final day is not a near-insurmountable obstacle.

Well there you go.

I don't mind Tassie and another non Vic side like Canberra or another WA side comes in.

Crows did win in 1997 vs the saints and 1998 vs North Melbourne. Both are Victorian sides.

But these days if the crows beat saints or north Melbourne in a grand final this year, your beating a Docklands tenant.

But yeah.... Crows could of won 3 more prelims. Could of faced Brisbane in 2002, swans in 2006 and Swans In 2012.

Make that what you will...

 

[Rotayjay]

Another data point now available:

2002 Brisbane (non-tenant) def Collingwood
2003 Brisbane (NT) def Collingwood
2008 Hawthorn (T) def Geelong
2010 Collingwood (T) def St Kilda
2011 Geelong (NT) def Collingwood
2012 Sydney (NT) def Hawthorn
2013 Hawthorn (T) def Fremantle
2014 Hawthorn (T) def Sydney
2015 Hawthorn (T) def West Coast
2017 Richmond (T) def Adelaide
2018 West Coast (NT) def Collingwood
2019 Richmond (T) def GWS
2023 Collingwood (T) def Brisbane