Melbourne's #5 draft pick

[lamby29]

Re: Re: Re: Melbourne's #5 draft pick

Originally posted by Yze_Magic
finally, someone with a clue

id trade pick 5 and Smith for Nathan g brown

done deal

I wouldn't.

 

[SCRAY72]

Originally posted by Yze_Magic
there are some really weak trade offers here


if i see HEATH BLACK offered again for pick 5, i will cry [/QUOTE


I know how you feel. I cry and laugh everytime I hear Kinnear and Molloy for Nathan Brown.

 

[Falchoon]

Originally posted by Broadbridge_20
Pick 5 + Brad Green for Simon Goodwin and Matthew Bode.

If the Saints want White we'll throw in Robertson and a 2nd rounder and would expect Milne + Goddard or Ball in return.

Goddard and Ball are the untouchable of untouchables, you may keep White

 

[Joffaboy]

Originally posted by Broadbridge_20

If the Saints want White we'll throw in Robertson and a 2nd rounder and would expect Milne + Goddard or Ball in return.

You Melbourne fans are deluded. White for a Milne PLUS a Goddard or a Ball. You are kidding aren't you?

Anyway it is Melbourne who give away their good players like Powell and Woewodin 9or however the hell it is spelt).

Why dont you just ask for Reiwoldt, Kosi and Dal Santo for White while you are at it.

White for Heath Black and a 2nd rounder. He isn't worth anything more than that, otherwise keep him.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Originally posted by Broadbridge_20
Pick 5 + Brad Green for Simon Goodwin and Matthew Bode.

Not a chance. Why would the Crows want the over-rated Green & give up 2 decent midfielders!

 

[Deestroy]

Originally posted by Joffaboy
Anyway it is Melbourne who give away their good players like Powell and Woewodin 9or however the hell it is spelt).

Tony Lockett, Barry Hall, Shane Wakelin, Darryl Wakelin, Peter Everitt... yeah it's just Melbourne that 'gives' away its good players.

 

[Yze_Magic]

Originally posted by Joffaboy
You Melbourne fans are deluded. White for a Milne PLUS a Goddard or a Ball. You are kidding aren't you?

Anyway it is Melbourne who give away their good players like Powell and Woewodin 9or however the hell it is spelt).

Why dont you just ask for Reiwoldt, Kosi and Dal Santo for White while you are at it.

White for Heath Black and a 2nd rounder. He isn't worth anything more than that, otherwise keep him.

deluded?

do you understand how good Robertosn is? and how good White is when fully fit?

I wouldnt do that trade, for Melvbournes sake

 

[Falchoon]

Originally posted by Deestroy
Tony Lockett, Barry Hall, Shane Wakelin, Darryl Wakelin, Peter Everitt... yeah it's just Melbourne that 'gives' away its good players.

Gave away Lockett, improved
Gave away Hall, improved
Gave away Wakelins x 2, improved
Gave away Everitt, improved

you work out the difference.

 

[Falchoon]

Originally posted by Yze_Magic
deluded?

do you understand how good Robertosn is? and how good White is when fully fit?

I wouldnt do that trade, for Melvbournes sake

Poor mans Aaron Hamill where would he play? ie not required.

White is good when fully fit but has always needed to do more around the ground. 195cm ruckmen with big leaps need to add a little more to their repertoire as they get older. I'd take him though but not for a first rounder. You need to trade him for a Sam Mitchell-Mark Coughlan type illustrating that Powell was a fair loss.

 

[OldSchool]

Re: Re: Re: Melbourne's #5 draft pick

Originally posted by lamby29
Short answer... no.

A 23 year old Bell could win us a Premiership. He has everything. Skill, speed, strength and poise. We would be crazy to get rid of him. And while Smith's pace is a worry, he has done enough to suggest he will be handy CHF in future years.

Pick 5 + Lamb (devastated to see him go but deserves a chance) for Brown interest you?

Pick 5 and Lamb might not be enough. I think we could get Lamby for next to nothing anyway.

 

[scooter600x]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Melbourne's #5 draft pick

Originally posted by OldSchool
Pick 5 and Lamb might not be enough. I think we could get Lamby for next to nothing anyway.

Seeing we already have 1 & 4 and carlton and melbourne would probably take midfielders, wouldn't pick 5 be just as good as pick 2?

Freo gave up pick 1 for croad and the picked the guy they would have chosen anyway (Polak) at 4.

I think Lamb would have a few clubs sniffing around.

 

[superstar]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Melbourne's #5 draft pick

Originally posted by scooter600x
Seeing we already have 1 & 4 and carlton and melbourne would probably take midfielders, wouldn't pick 5 be just as good as pick 5?

Freo gave up pick 1 for croad and the picked the guy they would have chosen anyway (Polak) at 4.

I think Lamb would have a few clubs sniffing around.

Can't see why. He's hopeless. Can't get a game in a ****house side bareft of key defensive options.

Verdict: he's no good. Too weak.

 

[OldSchool]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Melbourne's #5 draft pick

Originally posted by scooter600x
Seeing we already have 1 & 4 and carlton and melbourne would probably take midfielders, wouldn't pick 5 be just as good as pick 2?

Freo gave up pick 1 for croad and the picked the guy they would have chosen anyway (Polak) at 4.

I think Lamb would have a few clubs sniffing around.

Good point Scooter.
FYI, Freo also had McPharlin in the mix for the 1st round selection which ended up being the best part of the trade from their perspective.
Not sure if Chris Lamb will have too many clubs interested in him but I think the Dogs might be one of them

 

[SCRAY72]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Melbourne's #5 draft pick

Originally posted by OldSchool
Good point Scooter.
FYI, Freo also had McPharlin in the mix for the 1st round selection which ended up being the best part of the trade from their perspective.
Not sure if Chris Lamb will have too many clubs interested in him but I think the Dogs might be one of them

Is Brian Harris continues to improve, no need to pursue Lamb.

 

[Ted]

Originally posted by Falchoon
Gave away Lockett, improved
Gave away Hall, improved
Gave away Wakelins x 2, improved
Gave away Everitt, improved

you work out the difference.

Yep, improved all the way to 11th place.

Who do you think you'll need to give away next year to get up to 10th?

 

[SCRAY72]

Originally posted by Ted
Yep, improved all the way to 11th place.

Who do you think you'll need to give away next year to get up to 10th?

Black? Moyle? Milne?
All would definitely attract interest from some clubs specifically Carlton,Richmond and Melbourne.

 

[Falchoon]

Originally posted by Ted
Yep, improved all the way to 11th place.

miss Lockett?

improved? double the win tally, it's a start.

Melbourne have got off lightly woth the Woey, Powell losses in the press, here is a team that was a quarter away from a prelim and now has a priority selection, why?

 

[Yze_Magic]

some lucky club will snare Chris Lamb, and they will make the Demons look like fools for the next 10 years when he becomes the leagues premier tall backman


I hope he stays at Melbourne and is placed at Full Back where he belongs

 

[BenSmith3]

Just for the hell of it...

Saints

Lost S.Wakelin for Nothing

Lost D.Wakelin for Pick#4 (later traded on to Carlton with S.Cranage for A.Hamill)

Lost A.Lockett for Robert Neill, and draft picks that became Tony Brown, Joel Smith, and Aussie Jones

Lost B.Hall for DP#13 (N.Dal Santo) #17 (H.Black) and #45 (part of T.Knobel deal)

Lost P.Everitt for #8(6) & #24(22), trade #8 as part of the B.Brooks deal with Port, use pick #24 for M.Ferguson

Demons

Lost S.Powell for nothing

Lost S.Woewodin (and cash!) for #16(14) DP (D.Bell)

 

[evertonfc]

Pick #8 +4th Round Pick + Black + Blake for White + #5

Since Y_T doesn't quite understand the value of trades, he can be excused from this one.

Blake's gone from delistable midway through the year to I-wouldn't-accept-a-3rd-rounder-for-him. Amazing what a purple patch can do.

I still don't want White because I reckon his wages will be sky-high - 300k+? We can't afford to be paying that for a guy who could retire in two years...but we need two good ruckman ASAP, and White does fit the criteria. Only 26, but has spent most of his career on the bloody operating table and eating into the Demons' salary cap. I think everyone else at St Kilda wants him, and we're bound to make a play for him, so I might as well try this one out.

Wherever Black goes next year, he'll star. No doubt about it. I only hope he stays, because he's a class act and racks up the disposals. We need him in the midfield next year. Blake's versatility and durability is also a massive asset, but I want Pick #5 to get Raph.

It's not worth holding onto Pick 8 and hoping we might get him - we need Pick 5 and we need to draft him.

 

[Broadbridge_20]

Originally posted by evertonfc
Pick #8 +4th Round Pick + Black + Blake for White + #5

Looks fair at first, but when you look closer we're losing 3 positions in the first round of the draft and a player who could deliver you a premiership next season for an outside midfielder which we have enough of already, an average player and low draft pick.

We're the ones who should trying to trade quantity for quality.


Pick 5 + White and Green for Goddard, Black and Milne

 

[evertonfc]

Originally posted by Broadbridge_20
Looks fair at first, but when you look closer we're losing 3 positions in the first round of the draft and a player who could deliver you a premiership next season for an outside midfielder which we have enough of already, an average player and low draft pick.

We're the ones who should trying to trade quantity for quality.


Pick 5 + White and Green for Goddard, Black and Milne

Milne has signed a two year deal apparently, so he can't be traded.

Goddard won't go. Black, maybe.

Original deal still sounds. You lose three positions in a draft in which you already have a top 3 pick. White will NOT deliver St Kilda a premiership EVER.

Let's be honest. St Kilda would like to have him, but we won't be cornered into it. I feel that you'll be hawking him around on the final day of trade week, very keen (bordering on desperate) to get such a wage of your books. His time is clearly up at Melbourne - in the same way as Everitt was at St Kilda.

Woewodin and Powell only eased 350-400k off your cap, so clearly you're still in need of breathing space. You also bought Heffernan and Moorcroft, who'd eat 200-300k+ straight away.

I personally wouldn't want to give up anything more than a 2nd Round Pick + Blake for White. That would be the best of my offers. I seriously think that with form issues and so many injuries (ones which have dented his biggest asset - his leap), not to mention salary cap, his value has fallen well behind Gardiner, Darcy and King.

PS:
For Goddard:

Goddard + #8 for Yze + Pick #3 + Pick #5.

Not negotiable. Don't even dream of getting him otherwise.

Lob-sided trade? Damn right. We're not giving him up without ridiculous compensation.

 

[Broadbridge_20]

Originally posted by evertonfc
Milne has signed a two year deal apparently, so he can't be traded.

Goddard won't go. Black, maybe.

Original deal still sounds. You lose three positions in a draft in which you already have a top 3 pick. White will NOT deliver St Kilda a premiership EVER.

Let's be honest. St Kilda would like to have him, but we won't be cornered into it. I feel that you'll be hawking him around on the final day of trade week, very keen (bordering on desperate) to get such a wage of your books. His time is clearly up at Melbourne - in the same way as Everitt was at St Kilda.

Woewodin and Powell only eased 350-400k off your cap, so clearly you're still in need of breathing space. You also bought Heffernan and Moorcroft, who'd eat 200-300k+ straight away.

I personally wouldn't want to give up anything more than a 2nd Round Pick + Blake for White. That would be the best of my offers. I seriously think that with form issues and so many injuries (ones which have dented his biggest asset - his leap), not to mention salary cap, his value has fallen well behind Gardiner, Darcy and King.

PS:
For Goddard:

Goddard + #8 for Yze + Pick #3 + Pick #5.

Not negotiable. Don't even dream of getting him otherwise.

Lob-sided trade? Damn right. We're not giving him up without ridiculous compensation.

If Blake and a second rounder is all you're offering we'll pass. Collingwood, Essendon, North, Bulldogs and Carlton are all looking for a ruckman and would all offer a lot more than that.

You are severely underestimating White's value. He has his limitations, but on his day he can be the most damaging ruckman in the league. His injuries are overplayed. If he gets his confidence up he could cut it with the best ruckmen in the comp for at least 3-4 more years and has definitely got what it takes to lift you up the ladder. His biggest downfall is the physical side of his game. It's non existant. But if you can overlook that he is a valuable player and could get us at least if not more than what you guys got for Everitt.

Come trade time, I think you'll offer us Black + a 2nd rounder which we will probably take. Personally Id rather give Collingwood a ring and take O'Bree + a 2nd rounder or talk to Carlton and throw in Heffernan for Whitnall.

Your Yze offer is hillarious

 

[lamby29]

Originally posted by Broadbridge_20
talk to Carlton and throw in Heffernan for Whitnall.

Why would we trade Heff? He is poised to finish as high as 5th in our B&F, and it's his first year at Melbourne.

I know you don't like him, but I highly doubt he will be used as trade bait at the end of the year.

Black and pick #8 for White is the deal I'd take.

 

[footy_paul]

mercuri and harvey for that #5 draft pick- essendon