'Modern heroes'? Assange, Manning, Snowden, Hammond...

[blackcat]

Knew aliens were fake

Caloundra Clive Palmer championship dinosaur golf Park brah , sharpie v naomittrobson

 

[nut]

I worry about a society in 100 years.

But my great great grandkids can fix the mess

We now look at that George Orwells book 1984 as a book of predictions ….or a step by step guide.

Same will be said about the movie Idiocracy

 

[nut]

I can agree with that. As far as his personal struggle went, it was a fine victory. And I especially agree with you on whose head the expected 'failure' to come will lie. On Snowden's personal fate though, I just hope Russia in their infinite wisdom aren't seeing him as some sort of juicy bargaining chip to be played with at a later date.

NONE of the 'Great Game' players are particularly trustworthy.

After more than 8 years what’s your verdict on Russia?

 

[blackcat]

We now look at that George Orwells book 1984 as a book of predictions ….or a step by step guide.

Same will be said about the movie Idiocracy

Hollywood as predictive programming

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

After more than 8 years what’s your verdict on Russia?

Russia is slipping in my view. Really, ever since Vlad Putin went to war with that all-female punk band Pussy Riot over their championing of LGBT+ rights (among other things) back in 2011/2012 they've been slipping.

Still, we need a multi-polar world. One where each 'Great Game' power can be held in check by one or more peer-powers. I just wish it was a BETTER Russia or a better China or a better India that was providing alternate world leadershiip.

Washington needs a check and a balance. So does Moscow.

 

[nut]

Russia is slipping in my view. Really, ever since Vlad Putin went to war with that all-female punk band Pussy Riot over their championing of LGBT+ rights (among other things) back in 2011/2012 they've been slipping.

Still, we need a multi-polar world. One where each 'Great Game' power can be held in check by one or more peer-powers. I just wish it was a BETTER Russia or a better China or a better India that was providing alternate world leadershiip.

Washington needs a check and a balance. So does Moscow.

I meant the treatment of Snowden. Sorry.

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

I meant the treatment of Snowden. Sorry.

No worries, my mistake. Last I heard he'd been given premanent residency status in Russia. This from October 2020;

Edward Snowden gets permanent residency in Russia - lawyer | CNN

Former US National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden has been given permanent residency in Russia, his lawyer Anatoly Kucherena told state-run news agency RIA Novosti.

edition.cnn.com

Interestingly he'd like to return to the United States but only if he gets a fair trial. I don't think Washington is forthcoming on this point yet so I guess he stays in Russia. As for how they're treating him, I don't think they've put him to any use propagandawise. He's been living life but living it pretty low-key by what I can see.

 

[nut]

No worries, my mistake. Last I heard he'd been given premanent residency status in Russia. This from October 2020;

Edward Snowden gets permanent residency in Russia - lawyer | CNN

Former US National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden has been given permanent residency in Russia, his lawyer Anatoly Kucherena told state-run news agency RIA Novosti.

edition.cnn.com

Interestingly he'd like to return to the United States but only if he gets a fair trial. I don't think Washington is forthcoming on this point yet so I guess he stays in Russia. As for how they're treating him, I don't think they've put him to any use propagandawise. He's been living life but living it pretty low-key by what I can see.

It weird how someone who exposes government corruption and lies has to go to trial…
Assange being basically tortured for publishing war crimes…

And then we hear the US attacking the Russians for the same thing …

 

[blackcat]

Russia is slipping in my view. Really, ever since Vlad Putin went to war with that all-female punk band Pussy Riot over their championing of LGBT+ rights (among other things) back in 2011/2012 they've been slipping.

Still, we need a multi-polar world. One where each 'Great Game' power can be held in check by one or more peer-powers. I just wish it was a BETTER Russia or a better China or a better India that was providing alternate world leadershiip.

Washington needs a check and a balance. So does Moscow.

AFID whatever the acronym American Foundation for International Democracy is cia cut out, see: Uighurs and Falun Gong

James Baker pushed alĺ their chips in* and DC reneged on the deal to Gorby

I am not blaming DC , I am not blaming Putin , this thing may have been determined/baked-in with JamesBaker GeorgeHerbertWalkerBush and Gorby

but to think anyone including PJK and Hugh White have a reference point here is naivety in extremis, this is big boys power realpolitix

*torturedmeta4

 

[The Dice Man]

The first page of this thread makes no sense compared to the thread title. Selective editing?

 

[blackcat]

Russia is slipping in my view. Really, ever since Vlad Putin went to war with that all-female punk band Pussy Riot over their championing of LGBT+ rights (among other things) back in 2011/2012 they've been slipping.

Still, we need a multi-polar world. One where each 'Great Game' power can be held in check by one or more peer-powers. I just wish it was a BETTER Russia or a better China or a better India that was providing alternate world leadershiip.

Washington needs a check and a balance. So does Moscow.

Was PussyRiot not pushed by western sources? Seems like Kony iteration deux , legit , but heaps of backing by National Endowment for International Democracy , a CIA cutout , see: Swanston Street mostly the library , sometimes Westin Hotel and Uighurs & FalunGong*. *yes real, albeit to-a-degree confected , this is anti-Sino campaigning , Max Blumenthal has talked about AndrianZenz the single source , and seven years back State Department had Uighurs pegged as a terrorist political movement , now reconcile that , because you can't .

 

[Werewolf]

Putin grants Russian citizenship to US whistleblower Snowden

Former US security contractor one of 75 foreign nationals listed by the decree as being granted Russian citizenship.

www.aljazeera.com