Opinion New AFC HQ: We're on like Donkey Kong!

[StonesThrow]

Ashwin is a nightmare when the brickworks are busy. Hate that whole set up.

 

[brucetiki]

I hope that we are going to demand that are men’s home SANFL games are played at Thebby. It would be farcical to pay a big annual fee to participate in the SANFL and always have to play away to the traditional SANFL clubs - particularly when The Power get to play their games at home.

If would be beneficial for our young players to play on an Adelaide Oval sized ground instead tiny ovals like Norwood/Unley/Woodville and oversized paddocks like Elizabeth and maybe Noarlunga.

There's no maybe for Noarlunga that ground is huge (similar length to Elizabeth, but much wider). It was partly why I was surprised they got picked for an AFLW match earlier this year.

 

[Dirty Bird]

There's no maybe for Noarlunga that ground is huge (similar length to Elizabeth, but much wider). It was partly why I was surprised they got picked for an AFLW match earlier this year.

You got me curious

Nourlunga - 170 x 138
Elizabeth - 178 x 130
Prospect - 175 x 120
Norwood - 165 x 110
Richmond - 170 x 126
Unley - 160 x 110
Glenelg - 150 x 115
Woodville - 180 x 110
Alberton - 170 x 125
Theberton - 160 x 125

 

[brucetiki]

You got me curious

Nourlunga - 170 x 138
Elizabeth - 178 x 130
Prospect - 175 x 120
Norwood - 165 x 110
Richmond - 170 x 126
Unley - 160 x 110
Glenelg - 150 x 115
Woodville - 180 x 110
Alberton - 170 x 125
Theberton - 160 x 125

So Noarlunga is shorter, but fatter, than Elizabeth

 

[feenix67]

So Noarlunga is shorter, but fatter, than Elizabeth

That's racist

 

[GameofSloanes]

From what I've read it seems like the Crows were formally told a few days ago that they had a commitment from the government to do it.

Direct entry and exit access from an upgraded South Rd will be built to the Adelaide Crows’ proposed new Thebarton Oval headquarters in bid to ease traffic and parking concerns.
Crows chairman John Olsen has welcomed the state government commitment, understood to have been spearheaded by Infrastructure and Transport Minister Tom Koutsantonis, whose West Torrens electorate includes Thebarton Oval.

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/south-rd-traffic-exit-and-entry-plan-for-crows-thebarton-oval-headquarters/news-story/90eea13531994d6b6872b214f30e6285

Interesting. Thats certainly not the case at the moment.
Goes against the entire philosophy of the road design, ie trying to free up traffic flow on South Rd

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

The City of West Torrens is holding a community meeting about leasing 9.1 hectares of land to the club for the project tomorrow night.


If anyone is motivated enough ... (I can't cos... err... war wound )


Community meeting

To further assist the community to make an informed decision, Mayor Michael Coxon will host a community meeting to discuss the matter of the proposed lease by the Adelaide Football Club of the Thebarton Oval Precinct. This meeting will focus on the terms of the proposed lease only.

Should the granting of a lease to the Adelaide Football Club be supported, Council has committed to holding a public meeting to discuss terms of a proposed master plan to enable the community to provide further feedback on the Adelaide Football Club proposal.

When: 6pm - 7pm, Wednesday 5 October 2022.
Where: Thebarton Community Centre, Corner Ashwin Parade and South Road, Torrensville.
Doors open at 5.30pm. Meeting will commence at 6pm sharp.
Capacity is limited for the meeting so bookings are essential. Tickets are limited to 2 per booking.
Reserve your place via Eventbrite.

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I honestly thought "community meetings" only happened in movies to conveniently get all the townsfolk together to discuss the key plot point

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

I don't believe those birds or the Koala made that sign

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

A surprising number? Looks like about 25. Is the surprise how few?

Most were in the tents out the back

 

[chazwazza]

Most were in the tents out the back

Not from following a community FB page. Outrage at first then when it comes to attending meetings and actually putting action to concerns most fade away.

 

[Concussion test]

Interesting. Thats certainly not the case at the moment.
Goes against the entire philosophy of the road design, ie trying to free up traffic flow on South Rd

I'm sure they're only referring to an entry and exit from the surface road.

 

[NTRabbit]

South Rd does and will continue to exist as a B road running above, alongside, and under the North-South Motorway from Darlington to Grand Junction Rd, you'll find all references to it in planning mean the B road.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Once South Road is finished it'll be due for a complete rebuild

 

[NTRabbit]

Once South Road is finished it'll be due for a complete rebuild

Is Paul Hogan available?

 

[Rags_118]

I honestly thought "community meetings" only happened in movies to conveniently get all the townsfolk together to discuss the key plot point

Do we just need to get past the upcoming Council elections next month? Mayor needs to be seen to be listening to local communities at the moment. If he wins he can return to the dream of leaving a monument/legacy to his Mayorship and pandering to local businesses.

Generally people love their own open space within walking distance of their homes - and hate any outsiders driving in to share it. This development will bring a lot of outsiders.

Not sure I like the main oval precinct in the development also being a public space - I’d rather be able to lock the gate to the local ferals.

 

[1970crow]

I hope that we are going to demand that are men’s home SANFL games are played at Thebby. It would be farcical to pay a big annual fee to participate in the SANFL and always have to play away to the traditional SANFL clubs - particularly when The Power get to play their games at home.

If would be beneficial for our young players to play on an Adelaide Oval sized ground instead tiny ovals like Norwood/Unley/Woodville and oversized paddocks like Elizabeth and maybe Noarlunga.

The SANFL effectively charge us a few $ less than it would cost to pay for a full season of away games in another league. If we were a club flush with cash, then we'd be able to cover the extra cost of playing in the VFL instead of the SANFL and reap the benefits. Instead, we sunk shit trucks into baseball and esports and remained on the margins until covid hit and it got worse.

 

[1970crow]

I'm more than aware of the history and I've explained my opinion on it numerous times before.

Just because the SANFL were in a position to hold the licenses to ransom, it doesn’t change the fact that it was somewhat of an unscrupulous act by the SANFL to do it.

My issue stems from the fact that it was the AFC and PAFC who actually paid the 4 million dollars for the licenses in the first place.

Let me put it into an analogy

You take out two loans to finance the purchase of two houses of the same value for your kids, both loans are being completely paid by them.

One of the kids is doing better financially and has invested some of that money into upgrading and improving the value of their house while the other hasn't invested anywhere near as much and their house isn't as valuable as the other.

Once the loans have been paid off, both kids then come to you and ask for the properties to then be transferred to them. You then turn around and say well technically I still own both of these houses so if you want them you're going to have to now buy them from me. Then in a further unscrupulous act you punish the kid who has invested and improved the value of their house by asking them to pay 65% more for their house than the other kid has to pay.

You can say "that's business", but to me it was a blatant cash grab and another example of how the SANFL has financially exploited both clubs for their own gain.

It's not unscrupulous, the SANFL has a legal duty to prosecute the best financial interests of it's stakeholders. They are charged with nothing else. I didn't read the rest because you very clearly have no respect for the very reason that the SANFL exists. And it's not about us, except in the context that as a business unit, we deliver maximum returns back to them.

 

[1970crow]

I was responding to 1970Crow's post about buying back our AFL license from the SANFL, but it does fits into a bigger picture of the SANFL always having their hands out for money.

And why wouldn't they? Especially if they have the upper hand in negotiations. Have you never been involved in a negotiation, never used leverage?

 

[1970crow]

Not from following a community FB page. Outrage at first then when it comes to attending meetings and actually putting action to concerns most fade away.

They think that getting a lively group of a few dozen together means that everyone is on their side. Reality is that they're nowhere near having a meaningful impact. It barely meets the expected statistical crazy threshold. The silent majority will carry the day, especially when it comes to actual rent returns. Because none of those d!p$h!t$ will accept a single penny extra in their rates to have their wants implemented.

 

[relapse]

I didn't read the rest

It's a shame you that couldn't have expanded upon not reading posts to also include not responding to them as well

 

[kirky]

I hope that we are going to demand that are men’s home SANFL games are played at Thebby. It would be farcical to pay a big annual fee to participate in the SANFL and always have to play away to the traditional SANFL clubs - particularly when The Power get to play their games at home.

If would be beneficial for our young players to play on an Adelaide Oval sized ground instead tiny ovals like Norwood/Unley/Woodville and oversized paddocks like Elizabeth and maybe Noarlunga.

Woodville Oval is not a tiny oval - it is longer but narrower.

 

[kirky]

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I don't believe those birds or the Koala made that sign

There are koalas on King Reserve?

What do they borrow one from Cleland for the day and take it back at night?

 

[FR0GGY]

There are koalas on King Reserve?

What do they borrow one from Cleland for the day and take it back at night?

No, koalas do live in the wild.

 

[Rags_118]

You got me curious

Nourlunga - 170 x 138
Elizabeth - 178 x 130
Prospect - 175 x 120
Norwood - 165 x 110
Richmond - 170 x 126
Unley - 160 x 110
Glenelg - 150 x 115
Woodville - 180 x 110
Alberton - 170 x 125
Theberton - 160 x 125

On that basis we should train at Richmond Oval or Alberton to better match AO.

Here are the AFL oval dimensions ranked in order of sq metres of space per player.

Oval	Length (m)	Width (m)	Area (m²)	▼ Area per player (m²)
Deniliquin Oval	196	131	20,166	560
York Park	170	140	18,693	519
Marrara Oval	175	135	18,555	515
MCG	160	141	17,719	492
Manuka Oval	162	138	17,558	488
Cazaly's Stadium	165	135	17,495	486
Traegar Park	168	132	17,417	484
Carrara	161	134	16,944	471
Gabba	156	138	16,908	470
Perth Stadium	165	130	16,847	468
SCG	155	136	16,556	460
Giants Stadium	164	128	16,487	458
Eureka Stadium	160	129	16,211	450
Docklands	160	129	16,211	450
Adelaide Oval	167	123	16,133	448
Bellerive	160	124	15,582	433
Kardinia Park	170	115	15,355	427
Gaelic Football (Croke Park)	145	88	12,760	425
Stadium Australia	160	118	14,828	412
Norwood Oval	165	110	14,255	396
Glenferrie Oval	160	105	13,195	367
North Hobart Oval	150	105	12,370	344

 

[crow2crow]

On that basis we should train at Richmond Oval or Alberton to better match AO.

Here are the AFL oval dimensions ranked in order of sq metres of space per player.

Oval	Length (m)	Width (m)	Area (m²)	▼ Area per player (m²)
Deniliquin Oval	196	131	20,166	560
York Park	170	140	18,693	519
Marrara Oval	175	135	18,555	515
MCG	160	141	17,719	492
Manuka Oval	162	138	17,558	488
Cazaly's Stadium	165	135	17,495	486
Traegar Park	168	132	17,417	484
Carrara	161	134	16,944	471
Gabba	156	138	16,908	470
Perth Stadium	165	130	16,847	468
SCG	155	136	16,556	460
Giants Stadium	164	128	16,487	458
Eureka Stadium	160	129	16,211	450
Docklands	160	129	16,211	450
Adelaide Oval	167	123	16,133	448
Bellerive	160	124	15,582	433
Kardinia Park	170	115	15,355	427
Gaelic Football (Croke Park)	145	88	12,760	425
Stadium Australia	160	118	14,828	412
Norwood Oval	165	110	14,255	396
Glenferrie Oval	160	105	13,195	367
North Hobart Oval	150	105	12,370	344

Bullshit the mcg is not only 5m longer than scg - these numbers are dodgy