No Oppo Supporters Non Bulldog Footy Talk - Bulldogs only - Part 4

[Next Waiting]

I hope it pans out like this next week.

Lions beat Melbourne then GWS upset Freo.

And then on Sunday, we beat the Hawks by enough to mean that Carlton have to win by 1 point to make finals on % or Collingwood win by 1 to secure top 4 and put their traditional rival out of finals.

As a footy fan, I want to watch Carlton v Collingwood played out on a nice day in front of a packed G under those circumstances.

 

[VogonProsthetnic]

Just watched it again and the umpire had definitely already adjudicated the mark with his whistle.

Yes Johnson was running towards McCartin, but he hadn't crossed past where the mark was taken before McCartin moved off his line. Johnson only moved beyond where the mark was taken after McCartin moved off his line, however I agree with you that the umpire hadn't called out "play on" so technically you're correct that it should have been 50m.

What I'm not sure of is whether Johnson was ever actually allowed to be as close to where McCartin took the mark even before he moved off the line. If you have to always give the player on the goal line 9-10 meters (or whatever that is) then there's an argument the Johnson had already massively gone past a protected area (I'm not sure if that's how that rule works or if it required the umpire to call something out).

Separately, the specific rushed behind rule is:

18.11.2 Free Kicks - Deliberate Rushed Behinds A field Umpire shall award a Free Kick against a Player from the Defending Team who intentionally Kicks, Handballs or forces the football over the Attacking Team’s Goal Line or Behind Line or onto one of the Attacking Team’s Goal Posts, and the Player: (a) is greater than nine metres from the Goal Line or Behind Line; (b) is not under immediate physical pressure; (c) has had time and space to dispose of the football; or (d) from a Ruck contest, hits the football over the Goal Line or Behind Line on the full.

There is no way it was a legal rushed behind. It's either a free kick to Pies or a 50m penalty and I think most likely a 50m penalty was correct (but only because the umpire was slow calling "play on").

Never accuse the AFL of inventing incomprehensible, arcane, complicated rules.

We need to keep it simple ffs.

Good luck junior umpires working that out.

Ps He should have faked a bad handball or waited to be tackled then fall over the line. Then it’s not deliberate.

 

[jdz101]

Just watched it again and the umpire had definitely already adjudicated the mark with his whistle.

Yes Johnson was running towards McCartin, but he hadn't crossed past where the mark was taken before McCartin moved off his line. Johnson only moved beyond where the mark was taken after McCartin moved off his line, however I agree with you that the umpire hadn't called out "play on" so technically you're correct that it should have been 50m.

What I'm not sure of is whether Johnson was ever actually allowed to be as close to where McCartin took the mark even before he moved off the line. If you have to always give the player on the goal line 9-10 meters (or whatever that is) then there's an argument the Johnson had already massively gone past a protected area (I'm not sure if that's how that rule works or if it required the umpire to call something out).

Separately, the specific rushed behind rule is:

18.11.2 Free Kicks - Deliberate Rushed Behinds A field Umpire shall award a Free Kick against a Player from the Defending Team who intentionally Kicks, Handballs or forces the football over the Attacking Team’s Goal Line or Behind Line or onto one of the Attacking Team’s Goal Posts, and the Player: (a) is greater than nine metres from the Goal Line or Behind Line; (b) is not under immediate physical pressure; (c) has had time and space to dispose of the football; or (d) from a Ruck contest, hits the football over the Goal Line or Behind Line on the full.

There is no way it was a legal rushed behind. It's either a free kick to Pies or a 50m penalty and I think most likely a 50m penalty was correct (but only because the umpire was slow calling "play on").

Johnson had moved metres before the umpire had called play on...he basically made the umpire call play on. By this year's rules and what we get called for every week, it's a 50m pen.

 

[Fossie 32]

Thought I'd see how Lewy was rated on Supercoach this week but couldn't see his name - until i spotted it at the top of the list!

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/match?matchid=AFL20222205

 

[Dogs Rule]

Right on cue...Robbo hyperventilating about the Bummers.

 

[GetDimmaBack]

Right on cue...Robbo hyperventilating about the Bummers.

Well, they are the story.

Always.

And ever.

 

[glenashley]

Bummers lining up to win trade week again...

 

[Some Idiot]

Thought I'd see how Lewy was rated on Supercoach this week but couldn't see his name - until i spotted it at the top of the list!

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/match?matchid=AFL20222205

25 1%s, you would assume most of those are spoils to go with 9 marks, pretty insane numbers

 

[WAbulldog]

Right on cue...Robbo hyperventilating about the Bummers.

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Wondering how Mick Malthouse is feeling now after his amazing per season prediction.

 

[dogwatch]

25 1%s, you would assume most of those are spoils to go with 9 marks, pretty insane numbers

Does a falcon count as a 1 percenter?

 

[Fossie 32]

Does a falcon count as a 1 percenter?

Gotta cut your best players some slack

 

[grassman75]

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He's more Weird Al for mine

 

[BulldogMuscle]

He's more Weird Al for mine

Can't unsee it now

 

[Custard Guts]

Essington President Brasher gorn. Rutten reputedly right behind him.

But watch Dodoro calmly stride from the fiery wreckage like he's the freakin Terminator, fingers crossed.

 

[random__hero]

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[dergert]

North should sound out Beveridge.

 

[compact72]

Essendon always finding a way to make it about themselves.

Only way to stay relevant

 

[King Harold]

Wondering how Mick Malthouse is feeling now after his amazing per season prediction.

Bex is better Mick , give up whatever it is you are on.

 

[footscray1973]

Not only are they pushing out the president, but the VP who is aligned to the exiting president, is not the preferred option of a more viable board sub-group push - except the sub-group are aligned with...Sheedy! So you know Dodo will survive, and they'll have a senile puppet master pulling the strings, who has been aligned with Dodo for decades! Probably get Hird back as coach too. How good would that be - we'll ALL be surprised to be sitting here. I wonder if Dank gets a gig in the "all new" Essington"? Robbo will be beside himself - until they spend another 10 years bouncing around on the fringes of the 8 with no finals wins. Ah, good times...

Oh, and this almost guarantees a 24 page liftout tomorrow from Robbo, with 4 pages alone on how Stringer will have a breakout season with Hirdy guiding him. Nek minnit:

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Not only are they pushing out the president, but the VP who is aligned to the exiting president, is not the preferred option of a more viable board sub-group push - except the sub-group are aligned with...Sheedy! So you know Dodo will survive, and they'll have a senile puppet master pulling the strings, who has been aligned with Dodo for decades! Probably get Hird back as coach too. How good would that be - we'll ALL be surprised to be sitting here. I wonder if Dank gets a gig in the "all new" Essington"? Robbo will be beside himself - until they spend another 10 years bouncing around on the fringes of the 8 with no finals wins. Ah, good times...

Oh, and this almost guarantees a 24 page liftout tomorrow from Robbo, with 4 pages alone on how Stringer will have a breakout season with Hirdy guiding him. Nek minnit:

I think they should do whatever it takes

 

[Dogs Rule]

I love the Bummers fans thinking Clarko will just sweep in and solve all their problems

Even in crisis their arrogance is always off the charts.

 

[Libbaaaa]

Its been an amazing celebration of 150 years hasn't it.

 

[footscray1973]

Bomberos board posters claiming they've been into Clarkson for months, and this is all part of the plan. Someone should tell North, and GWS... oh and Clarkson!

As if he'd entertain coaching discussions with other clubs if that was the case, and North have given several indications they are specifically discussing the coaching job with him. What a bunch of pillocks.

 

[GetDimmaBack]

Not only are they pushing out the president, but the VP who is aligned to the exiting president, is not the preferred option of a more viable board sub-group push - except the sub-group are aligned with...Sheedy! So you know Dodo will survive, and they'll have a senile puppet master pulling the strings, who has been aligned with Dodo for decades! Probably get Hird back as coach too. How good would that be - we'll ALL be surprised to be sitting here. I wonder if Dank gets a gig in the "all new" Essington"? Robbo will be beside himself - until they spend another 10 years bouncing around on the fringes of the 8 with no finals wins. Ah, good times...

Oh, and this almost guarantees a 24 page liftout tomorrow from Robbo, with 4 pages alone on how Stringer will have a breakout season with Hirdy guiding him. Nek minnit:

Robbo writing puff pieces about Essington...

Could there be a more natural double than that?

 

[ossie_21]

I’ll be furious if Clarkson ends up at Druggies FC