Non-Lions Footy Discussion 2013

[Grimreepah]

They have nine players in their leadership group (Grimes (co-captain), Trengove (co-captain), Nathan Jones (vice-captain), Shannon Byrnes, Mitch Clark, Chris Dawes, James Frawley, Colin Garland and McKenzie). Not one of them would be anywhere near the leadership group at most clubs.

... except maybe Mitch Clark

 

[Skoob]

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I'm sure the Melbourne playing group will be thrilled to be taking orders from these two fringe players from other clubs. What's the bet the exodus of senior players will continue in 2013?

I think it's just 'til the captains voices break

 

[Grimreepah]

I think it's funny that upon Dean Bailey's sacking he announced that 'he did what was best for the footy club' followed by a wink and a nod, and no one gave a crap. But after a Brock McLean interview tanking has now become a serious offence.

 

[Hollow Knight]

Judd's appeal rejected. Visy payments staying in the Carlton salary cap.

 

[chopperduck]

As they should

 

[BuntonRules]

I still reckon it is Vlad trying to re-wtite history. Legal for 4 years & then made accountable for the last? Pull the other one.

Be interesting to see if Visy are so keen to pay for an envioronmental ambassador next year.

 

[Bert Man]

I really hope we don't follow soccer and become all about money. This is the right step in stopping this, however in this ultra materialistic world money is the be all and end all. A little more money wouldn't hurt though...

 

[Haso]

Blucher has had his agent accreditation suspended for 12 months.


You have to imagine that with his reputation in its current state, he won't be making a booming comeback in a years time.

 

[Lace Out]

Not in player management anyway #doneanddusted

 

[Grimreepah]

Judd's appeal rejected. Visy payments staying in the Carlton salary cap.

On what grounds were they appealing? Was it the 'pretty please' defence?

 

[Haso]

On what grounds were they appealing? Was it the 'pretty please' defence?

Probably worked better than Tippett's 'Chewbacca' defense

 

[Skoob]

I haven't seen or heard any news on Melbourne's tanking outcomes. Have the bastards been pinged yet?

 

[Hollow Knight]

I haven't seen or heard any news on Melbourne's tanking outcomes. Have the bastards been pinged yet?

They have till the end of the month to officially respond to the AFL evidence.

 

[Skoob]

They have till the end of the month to officially respond to the AFL evidence.

Just in time for the NAB cup to be a distraction and probably too late impose sanctions for the 2013 season.
Well I look forward to the explanations/excuses.

 

[Ironmonger]

There'll be some kind of compromise solution, that'll involve a token penalty for the club.

It's just way too hard to definitively prove that a club sets out to lose, even with testimony.

And I'm still not sure that playing players out of position in a nothing game, even giving them weird matchups that have little chance of succeeding, constitutes tanking at all.

I think to show tanking you would just about need a coach to specifically instruct players to lose.

 

[jackess]

They'll probably penalise the people involved (Connolly, Bailey, etc.) and not the club.

 

[Hollow Knight]

They'll probably penalise the people involved (Connolly, Bailey, etc.) and not the club.

Would set a dangerous precedent. The birth of the AFL scapegoat. Cheat all you want, then lay all your sins on a sacrificial lamb.

 

[jackess]

Would set a dangerous precedent. The birth of the AFL scapegoat. Cheat all you want, then lay all your sins on a sacrificial lamb.

I think Melbourne's performance on and off the field would be enough disincentive for other clubs. If they could find West Coast guilty of tanking/draft tampering the year they got Gaff and Darling it would be a different case.

 

[Ironmonger]

Would set a dangerous precedent. The birth of the AFL scapegoat. Cheat all you want, then lay all your sins on a sacrificial lamb.

I agree. Bailey and Connolly were employees of the club, acting in their role as employees of the club, for what they perceived as the benefit of the club. If there's culpability here, there's no logical way to exclude the club from it.

 

[chopperduck]

There would be no way the club would be unaware of single persons actions, especially with something like tanking. Coaches don't have that much pull at footy clubs. Token penalty will be the outcome. Very hard thing to prove, and the AFL wont want to screw it up.

 

[Caiphus]

Because the club itself took no action against the perpetrators the club appears to be culpable.

Draw-and-quarter them all I say!

 

[chopperduck]

Hard to argue with that. I mean, the match ups that were used in that game were beyond mind boggling. Against a team you can beat, any club CEO should have dragged them all into the office and blasted them over such a performance and said 'tactics'. The fact nothing was ever asked about it says a lot about where the orders came from.

 

[Skoob]

Hard to argue with that. I mean, the match ups that were used in that game were beyond mind boggling. Against a team you can beat, any club CEO should have dragged them all into the office and blasted them over such a performance and said 'tactics'. The fact nothing was ever asked about it says a lot about where the orders came from.

Funny lot the Irish.

 

[MacMum]

On the "Rumour File" on 3AW the other morning..

"..a very big name player will NOT be playing this year due to serious drug offences.."
Was replayed this morning, then the host said the person who made that call was a policeman.

On SEN today Daniel Harford, Rita and Richo were discussing the very latest talk around the AFL (I'm assuming the above) commenting that it was very very disturbing if true, and the AFL's drug policy is not working and have to get tougher etc..

..oh the intrigue, sounds like something big is about to break folks.

 

[Hollow Knight]

On the "Rumour File" on 3AW the other morning..

"..a very big name player will NOT be playing this year due to serious drug offences.."
Was replayed this morning, then the host said the person who made that call was a policeman.

On SEN today Daniel Harford, Rita and Richo were discussing the very latest talk around the AFL (I'm assuming the above) commenting that it was very very disturbing if true, and the AFL's drug policy is not working and have to get tougher etc..

..oh the intrigue, sounds like something big is about to break folks.

Normally I just dismiss these drug rumours as complete rubbish (which has historically proven to be the case) but maybe this one is true, and Demetriou's comments the other day were softening the ground for a controversial announcement.