ODI Side

[The Finger]

The selectors gave Kwaja way to many chances to perform.

 

[eth-dog]

Eh? Not sure what matches you're watching. Henriques varies his speed a lot, but he regularly opens the attack for NSW and can bowl with genuine pace when he wants to.

Faulkner's a great talent who is going to play a lot of international cricket, but he's still quite young for an allrounder and probably not what the selectors are looking for right now anyway.

He hasn't opened the bowling for NSW for the past 2 years. Henriques bowls low 130's at best. Faulkner bowls mid 130's to low 140's when he get's up to his peak.

Faulkner>Henriques with the bat AND the ball. The fact that he's got a better ODD record, is more talented, and is actually in his states first XI when it's at full strength means he should play ahead of Henriques

 

[The Finger]

He hasn't opened the bowling for NSW for the past 2 years. Henriques bowls low 130's at best. Faulkner bowls mid 130's to low 140's when he get's up to his peak.

Faulkner>Henriques with the bat AND the ball. The fact that he's got a better ODD record, is more talented, and is actually in his states first XI when it's at full strength means he should play ahead of Henriques

One massive differance between the two. They get earmarked early up there and any oppurtunity there given a crack.

 

[Phone]

and the fact that Henriques is far closer to ending up in the Ashes squad (due to all the other batting-ish all-rounders being seriously injured, Marsh/McDonald, or shit, Chrisitan) than Faulkner is why Henriques has been picked

 

[Phone]

i mean it's the same reason steve smith just got dropped instead of maxwell, despite smith looking 1000X better with the ball than Maxwell and not any worse with the bat

 

[threenewpadlocks]

Ben Cutting, Dan Christian or even James Hopes would have been better picks than Henriques.

And Maxwell is still in his first opportunity - they like him. Smith is in about his eighteenth opportunity, and he's failed yet again. Both of them should be preferably dropped, even though I love Maxwell, though if they're going to pick one Maxwell is the go.

 

[demon21]

I do think we need a allrounder in the team that can bowl med pace so i can understand why we picked one, I would prefer to play Faulkner but he will get his chance down the track.

 

[Jay C]

Henriques has been in terrible form in the BBL.

Avg with the bat - 11.14
Avg with ball - 38.33
Econ - 9.71

Well at least we know what the standards are for representing Australia

 

[Bucking Beads]

Yeah I thought Smith looked handy with the ball. He needs to bloody work on it.

 

[threenewpadlocks]

If they want a bowling all rounder, then why not give Hastings another go back from injury?

 

[Caesar]

Henriques has been in terrible form in the BBL.

Avg with the bat - 11.14
Avg with ball - 38.33
Econ - 9.71

Well at least we know what the standards are for representing Australia

Would be relevant if they were picking the T20 side.

 

[Jay C]

Would be relevant if they were picking the T20 side.

Recent form is relevant not Ryobi Cup form from 2-3 months ago

 

[Russian]

I do think we need a allrounder in the team that can bowl med pace so i can understand why we picked one

Wade?

 

[Phone]

this discussion is a really good example of why over restrictions suck. no-one should actually want to see glenn maxwell or moises henriques or daniel chrisitan or any of those shitty all rounders picked at the cost of a proper batsman or proper bowler

 

[Admiral Byng]

My selection philosophy on all-rounders is only pick one if he can be relied upon to bowl 10 overs. I can't see the point in weakening the batting line-up to pick an all-rounder who is only likely to bowl 4 or 5 overs anyway. Better off playing a 6th specialist batsman.

 

[damochandler]

this discussion is a really good example of why over restrictions suck. no-one should actually want to see glenn maxwell or moises henriques or daniel chrisitan or any of those shitty all rounders picked at the cost of a proper batsman or proper bowler

we need to sure up our batting and to see what our our depth is in our bowling

 

[Caesar]

My selection philosophy on all-rounders is only pick one if he can be relied upon to bowl 10 overs. I can't see the point in weakening the batting line-up to pick an all-rounder who is only likely to bowl 4 or 5 overs anyway. Better off playing a 6th specialist batsman.

Expecting to get through a fifth of your overs with part-timers is a bit much though.

 

[PTizzle]

Don't like it at all. Finch, Khawaja and Cutting stiff. Maxwell very very lucky.

Playing favourites again.

 

[damochandler]

The selectors gave Kwaja way to many chances to perform.

hard to perform consistantly when you are 1 one test/odi not the next. they have barely given him a chance

 

[The Finger]

hard to perform consistantly when you are 1 one test/odi not the next. they have barely given him a chance

I think youve missed my point.

 

[damochandler]

I think youve missed my point.

that he should get more of a chance

 

[Admiral Byng]

Expecting to get through a fifth of your overs with part-timers is a bit much though.

It is taking a risk either way - gamble on a weaker batting line-up or gamble on part-timers to bowl 10 overs between them. I'd lean toward the second option. If we haven't got a genuine all-rounder I'd rather not ry and force one.

 

[Phone]

Well Usman is a guy they dropped, fairly harshly it must be said (he took the bullet for Ponting, which was questionable then and 12 months on even more questionable) but also made himself a candidate to be dropped due to problems with his game that he couldn't get away with at international level. and he has made no attempt whatsoever in the next 12 months to actually change his game and confront those problems. They don't need to give him a chance. They're know what they're getting - a guy who is way too reliant on long hops he can pull to the fence and who has questionable running between the wickets. They didn't like it 12 months ago, I don't see why they would like it. Usman should feel lucky he got an ODI game and called into the test squad.

 

[demon21]

Don't like it at all. Finch, Khawaja and Cutting stiff. Maxwell very very lucky.

Playing favourites again.

what other players would u have dropped instead of Finch, Khawaja and Cutting.

 

[Caesar]

It is taking a risk either way - gamble on a weaker batting line-up or gamble on part-timers to bowl 10 overs between them. I'd lean toward the second option. If we haven't got a genuine all-rounder I'd rather not ry and force one.

Hmmm. I'm more inclined to think that 10 overs with part-timer bowlers is going to cost you a lot more than the extra 5-10 runs an innings that a specialist bat brings in terms of their average.

I don't really like picking allrounders unless they're really good but I have sort of come to the conclusion that it's necessary in the 50-over format.