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Is Nathan Bracken a dud ODI bowler?

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Re: Is Nathan Bracken a dud ODI bowler?

I like him. His left armers offer something different and he generates plenty of swing. a handy 3rd seamer option, however that said, Gillespie would still do a different and probably better job if given the chance. Probably a bit more demonic. Still, Bracks has done well to force is way back this summer.
 
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Jaymin said:
Bracken has been labelled a pure swing bowler. If the ball doesn't swing he is considered straight up and down.

These little off cutter/off spin stuff he has developed is the answer to that.

Example tonight.

Tried to swin the ball in his first over. Got smashed and didn't happen. Next 9 overs he bowled little cutters and bowled well. Smart bowler.

Will be the 3rd seamer picked for the WC after Lee and McGrath.
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Gee i thought he bowled well after his first couple of overs.... Took a lot of pace off the ball and bowled the little door knob turners that kept Chris Harris in the game for an extra 5 years...

Very good one day bowler, but sorry i don't really rate him in a test match...
 
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Adelaide Hawk said:
I feel better now this board has labelled Bracken a "dud". It wasn't so long ago the rocket scientists on here were calling Lee and Symonds duds as well. There's a lot of good judges of cricket ability on here :rolleyes:
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Symonds has not proven anything at Test level, nor has Lee (well apart from this summer :thumbsu:), or Bracken.

That said I am a fan of Bracken, handy ODI player.
 

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Re: Is Nathan Bracken a dud ODI bowler?

If Bracken had just a bit more pace, he'd be a very good OD bowler.

He's a first XI OD bowler now, but if he were up to 140km/h, he's be great. Mix that with slower balls and off-cutters, and swing at that pace. You'd expect someone that big to bowl a bit faster than he does.
 
Re: Is Nathan Bracken a dud ODI bowler?

One of the best 1st change bowlers going around in ODI's. However he sucks at tests.
 
Re: Is Nathan Bracken a dud ODI bowler?

Two pretty good batsman he got also.

If he was 5-10k faster he'd be a great bowler.
 
Re: Is Nathan Bracken a dud ODI bowler?

Gunnar Longshanks said:
2/8 off 3 overs. Not bad.
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Gunnar again you're showing why your long posts and other crap mean nothing and you have little knowledge of the game.

His batsman put 370 on the board.

Any bowler who can't take wickets in an ODI bowling second, opening the bowling, against a team chasing 370 isn't fit to play cricket at any level.

Bracken is a nothing bowler when batsman don't have to all out attack him.

He's shown that in various situations before. The Indians played his 100 kph garbage with there eyes closed.

When Australia are defending 220 and Bracken does this come back to me.

370?

Any bowler in the country would take wickets defending that total.

Bracken's slow, non-swining, garbage doesn't trouble batsman. It's only when they have to bat at an excessive rate that his slow crap actually does some damage.

For you not to know this is incredible.

And even more embarassingly you're right up there with Bentleigh in that you know nothing other than stats.

Learning something called 'context' would be a start.

Wait I gotta go, I hear Nathan Bracken coming, he's quick and scary.

Watch out!
 
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Bentleigh said:
Two pretty good batsman he got also.

If he was 5-10k faster he'd be a great bowler.
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Great bowler?

They're defending 370 Bentleigh.

Do you understand how easy it would be for any bowler to pick up wickets in this sitaution?
 
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apollo_creed said:
Great bowler?

They're defending 370 Bentleigh.

Do you understand how easy it would be for any bowler to pick up wickets in this sitaution?
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Yes, a great bowler.

He is a very good ODI bowler. If he had another couple yards of pace he'd be a great bowler.

My comments had nothing to do with this specific match :rolleyes:
 

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Re: Is Nathan Bracken a dud ODI bowler?

apollo_creed said:
Any bowler who can't take wickets in an ODI bowling second, opening the bowling, against a team chasing 370 isn't fit to play cricket at any level.
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A bit like Mick Lewis, then?

apollo_creed said:
Bracken's slow, non-swining, garbage doesn't trouble batsman. It's only when they have to bat at an excessive rate that his slow crap actually does some damage.
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Before today's game, Bracken had taken 45 ODI wickets at 23.16.

I'm sure you'll find a way to spin those numbers, but I reckon they're pretty respectable.

Or were all those wickets taken against sides chasing huge Australian totals?
 
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Bracken now has 49 ODI wickets at 21.8. Among current players, only Shane Bond has a better ODI average.

He's doing something right.
 
Re: Is Nathan Bracken a dud ODI bowler?

apollo_creed said:
Gunnar again you're showing why your long posts and other crap mean nothing and you have little knowledge of the game.

His batsman put 370 on the board.

Any bowler who can't take wickets in an ODI bowling second, opening the bowling, against a team chasing 370 isn't fit to play cricket at any level.

Bracken is a nothing bowler when batsman don't have to all out attack him.

He's shown that in various situations before. The Indians played his 100 kph garbage with there eyes closed.

When Australia are defending 220 and Bracken does this come back to me.

370?

Any bowler in the country would take wickets defending that total.

Bracken's slow, non-swining, garbage doesn't trouble batsman. It's only when they have to bat at an excessive rate that his slow crap actually does some damage.

For you not to know this is incredible.

And even more embarassingly you're right up there with Bentleigh in that you know nothing other than stats.

Learning something called 'context' would be a start.

Wait I gotta go, I hear Nathan Bracken coming, he's quick and scary.

Watch out!
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******** off. you crap on about how people on here knowing nothing about cricket, yet you have proven many many times that you know bugger all about this great game. you act like you are the most intelligent cricket critic in the world but you just talk ********. you rubbish australian players even though we are easily the best in the world. bracken is a very very good one day bowler
 
Re: Is Nathan Bracken a dud ODI bowler?

Geez Bracken is unfairly maligned. Just because he's not as quick as some bowlers doesn't mean he's not good. I thought his ODI record spoke for itself.

That said he did get a couple of cheap tail end wickets today to boost his average, but even then he still would have got 2-30.
 
Re: Is Nathan Bracken a dud ODI bowler?

Bracken's not bad.

He's definitely delivered better than Clark, Lewis and Dorey in the limited games they've played, which puts only Lee and McGrath ahead of him as Oz ODI fast bowling options right now. On a side, he also bats better than those 3.
Hopefully he improves as he gets older and more experienced, the way Bichel seemed to.
 

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Re: Is Nathan Bracken a dud ODI bowler?

Bracken is a pretty good ODI bowler in my opnion. He has a couple of deliveries up his sleeves, which makes him a very tough bowler to face.
 
I think when he has a pitch that suits his swing bowling he's great but when
doesn't he can look very ordinary at times.
 
I'd like to know what Apollo creed thought of Nathan Bracken's bowling today.


No doubt it was easy going when the Aussies are defending such a huge total.
Oh wait...


What was his record in this VB series? Leading wicket taker? only played 8 games? 16 wickets i think, in 8 games! averaging well below 20 aswell!

What a bowler.
 

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