Mega Thread Official Trade Week Thread

[Resurgance]

How about the 2 compensation picks plus Warnock and either Bate or Dunn for Omeara and Crouch?

Throw them and Viney in at the Scorps next year and let them play together for a year.

Use the other trades for some experienced players as we don't need any more kids with those 3 coming in the year after.

 

[Eth]

He has gained recognition over the past 4-6 weeks imo, I would bank both compo picks for him without thinking at this stage. Maybe trying to offer pick 12 instead of one of them, but we could get Greene or similar this season with that pick and have our midfield sewn up with Crouch and Viney in 2012....damn that would be nice

I think there's two options regarding inside midfielders, which is the only real gap in our list.

One, we draft Greene with pick 12, Viney as a F/S next year plus our two compo picks (assuming no trades are made with them and we don't make a play/get outbidded for O'Meara and/or Crouch).

Two, we trade pick 12 and a compo pick - I wouldn't knee-jerk both compo picks at O'Meara/Crouch without some consideration as to how valuable they'll be next year) for Crouch, assuming GC get O'Meara, and we have Viney as a F/S, Crouch as a GWS 17-year-old and one more first round pick, whether it's the compo next year or pick 12 this year.

So it's either Greene plus a first rounder, or Crouch. And I'd take the latter.

Edit: Resurgance, that might work alright. I still want a compo for next year, so Warnock, Bate, pick 12 and a compo pick to GWS, picks 1 and 2 in the mini-draft to Melbourne. Maybe. I think it's the old 60c + 40c = $1 rule but it could work. They lack those older players.

 

[Syrus]

Brad Crouch is the guy I'd imagine you're thinking of. A jet, apparently. Will probably end up as good as O'Meara yet not so highly rated publicly as him.

I would have to confirm with Spirit, but I dont think his name was mentioned. I may be wrong though. I do 100% remember O'meara's name being mentioned in our discussions as someone they are looking at. Good news for Gazza11.

But he did say Neeld and the assistants will be going through the list and getting players where they think we are lacking, game plan, etc.

 

[Crimson Azure]

As reported by HFF, this article suggests that Bate & Maric want to be traded:

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/124852/default.aspx

 

[Resurgance]

I think there's two options regarding inside midfielders, which is the only real gap in our list.

One, we draft Greene with pick 12, Viney as a F/S next year plus our two compo picks (assuming no trades are made with them and we don't make a play/get outbidded for O'Meara and/or Crouch).

Two, we trade pick 12 and a compo pick - I wouldn't knee-jerk both compo picks at O'Meara/Crouch without some consideration as to how valuable they'll be next year) for Crouch, assuming GC get O'Meara, and we have Viney as a F/S, Crouch as a GWS 17-year-old and one more first round pick, whether it's the compo next year or pick 12 this year.

So it's either Greene plus a first rounder, or Crouch. And I'd take the latter.

Edit: Resurgance, that might work alright. I still want a compo for next year, so Warnock, Bate, pick 12 and a compo pick to GWS, picks 1 and 2 in the mini-draft to Melbourne. Maybe. I think it's the old 60c + 40c = $1 rule but it could work. They lack those older players.

Fair call, keep one of the picks we can use next year.

Also, if Maric has requested a trade, how about a straight swap for Gunston? Couldn't be far off, but if not enough perhaps add a lower draft pick, couldn't be much more than that.

 

[DJ DEMONS]

Got a gut feeling we will do a player swap with Carlton. Setanta O'hAilpin for Warnock who would be happy to join his brother. I think thats a Win Win for all.

 

[CM Sean]

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[DivideandMultiply]

FWIW Emma Quayle really likes the look of Brad Crouch. She hasn't raved about the Jaeger Bomb in the same way.

She never does.

As much as I like Emma Quayle she tends to overrate some of the Vic draftees when comparing them to interstate talent.

Does it every season, a prime example being Toy v Swallow last year.

Crouch is good and I understand the desire to pump him up, considering Melbourne are more likely to get pick 2 v pick 1 but he is not quite on O'Meara's level.

 

[Bartram_Class]

She never does.

As much as I like Emma Quayle she tends to overrate some of the Vic draftees when comparing them to interstate talent.

Does it every season, a prime example being Toy v Swallow last year.

Crouch is good and I understand the desire to pump him up, considering Melbourne are more likely to get pick 2 v pick 1 but he is not quite on O'Meara's level.

That said, look at the journo crush surrounding Tom Scully, and you had Trengove and Martin sitting just underneath.

If we end up with another play of Trengove's quality, you won't find many complaining, no matter how good O'Meara turns out.

 

[DivideandMultiply]

That said, look at the journo crush surrounding Tom Scully, and you had Trengove and Martin sitting just underneath.

If we end up with another play of Trengove's quality, you won't find many complaining, no matter how good O'Meara turns out.

You mean Scully the Victorian wunderkind and Trengove the interstater?

Presently GWS are trying to find a way to exploit a loophole and keep O'Meara, not Crouch. Not that I think Crouch is average, I would be happy to see him at WC.

 

[Petterd4Brownlow]

So it's either Greene plus a first rounder, or Crouch. And I'd take the latter.

Nup, I want Greene plus picks for 2012 'mega'draft

 

[Demonic Ascent]

Why the Bate hate?

I still rate him as a footballer. I think he has just horribly miss used under Bailey and co. He's not a KPF, but he has the mody and thus mobiliby of one.

Needs to loose some kg's and turn into a more mobile 3rd tall.

Lisle is a late 50's pick from 2008 that has played 5 games... Bate for Lisle is a good del for the hawks, if they wanted him.

How many 3rd talls do we need though? We have Dunn, Howe, Petterd, Jurrah, Sylvia. Unfortunately for Bate he is behind all these guys. If we can trade one of our 3rd tall options for a big bodied forward who can take heat off Watts & Jurrah (and Cook eventually) that would be a win.

NB: I don't anything on Lisle and so am not sure how big or good he is, just saying about Bate.

 

[saj_21]

How about the 2 compensation picks plus Warnock and either Bate or Dunn for Omeara and Crouch?

As much as we would all love for this to happen, no way will GWS accpet that offer. It is effectively two top picks for two mid first round selections, Warnock, Bate and Dunn do not sweeten the deal at all and GWS have stated they are no interested in fringe players. To get Crouch and Omeara we would have to offer a redicoulous deal, like securing another top 30 pick and giving them that alongside pick 12 and our 2 compo picks.

I would be happy securing Crouch whilst still keeping pick 12 and one of our compo picks for next year, as we will have to use a first rounder on Viney. But we should activate one of our compo picks next year so we still have a first round pick in a very talented draft.

 

[lloyd christmas]

I hear we are looking at getting our hands on Gilbert? Saints need to shed some salary cap weight and I'd imagine there'd be some tension between him and Roo. Maric or Bate plus 2nd rounder? Also rumours surrounding schenider wanting back to NSW. Maric would be a good fit given Milnes age.
A backline of;
Garland Frawley Tappy
Grimes Rivers Gilbert

 

[Demon 86]

Gilbert can't kick so no interest from me...

North Melboune are keen on Maric- anyone we want from them that's available? Matt Campbell?

 

[lloyd christmas]

74% disposal efficiency suggests otherwise. Given that you have no interest in Gilbert but would consider Matty Campbell, I'm glad you have zero input in MFC's list management. Goose

 

[Demon 86]

74% disposal efficiency suggests otherwise. Given that you have no interest in Gilbert but would consider Matty Campbell, I'm glad you have zero input in MFC's list management. Goose

Haha don't get your panties in a twist just because the first person to reply to your post disagrees with you. This is a forum for discussion not everyone will agree with everyone- if you can't handle that I suggest you post elsewhere son.

If you think Gilbert is a good kick that's fine- I don't. If we got him super cheap I wouldn't be upset with it but can't see that happening. Personally I think he'll go interstate if he leaves Saints.

Matt Campbell would be a better small forward option than Maric, but certainly no superstar. Just throwing names out there seeing as North want Maric.

Now try and reply without getting upset

 

[dee64]

74% disposal efficiency suggests otherwise. Given that you have no interest in Gilbert but would consider Matty Campbell, I'm glad you have zero input in MFC's list management. Goose

If you actually watched how St.Kilda play, you'd notice how often their backmen chip the ball around, which skews their disposal efficiency. It's a fact that Gilbert's disposal under pressure is ordinary. Don't think that he addresses our needs, so I can't see why we'd be interested.

 

[BigSexc]

She never does.

As much as I like Emma Quayle she tends to overrate some of the Vic draftees when comparing them to interstate talent.

Does it every season, a prime example being Toy v Swallow last year.

Crouch is good and I understand the desire to pump him up, considering Melbourne are more likely to get pick 2 v pick 1 but he is not quite on O'Meara's level.

This is true, I remember last year her saying that she believed Toy was/would have been the best out of last years pool.. rated him the no.1 pick.

She sees/talks to the vic kids more so its quite understandable.

 

[lloyd christmas]

Haha don't get your panties in a twist just because the first person to reply to your post disagrees with you. This is a forum for discussion not everyone will agree with everyone- if you can't handle that I suggest you post elsewhere son.

If you think Gilbert is a good kick that's fine- I don't. If we got him super cheap I wouldn't be upset with it but can't see that happening. Personally I think he'll go interstate if he leaves Saints.

Matt Campbell would be a better small forward option than Maric, but certainly no superstar. Just throwing names out there seeing as North want Maric.

Now try and reply without getting upset

Well it's the stats that suggest Gilbert is more than adequate when it comes to his disposal. It's a discussion, not shoot a RUMOUR down on a made up reason. I didn't make it up champ.
Campbell has kicked 17 goals in the last 2 years. How does that make him a better option?
Gilbert can kick and quite effectively and will provide our defence some much needed rebound.

 

[Devastating Boris]

Sorry just posted this in the other thread but it might be of interest to some.

My mate has said that we are fielding enquiries for bate as we speak. Looks like we are looking at picks to package for the mini draft. The Gilbert/ Warnock thing was mentioned a few weeks ago and he said if they are going to do it they will do it late as they would have discussed this for the past couple of weeks with st kilda.

 

[lloyd christmas]

If you actually watched how St.Kilda play, you'd notice how often their backmen chip the ball around, which skews their disposal efficiency. It's a fact that Gilbert's disposal under pressure is ordinary. Don't think that he addresses our needs, so I can't see why we'd be interested.

I have watched how St Kilda play but Gilbert has penetration we lack and there aren't many players who are pinpoint when under pressure. He's often the one they use to try kick over the press too, which would push his efficiency down when it doesn't come off. Well over a 3rd of his possessions were contested.
Strauss will do well to play again, Blease doesn't have the defensive skill set, davey is a beautiful kick and ideal at half back but goes missing too often and is nearly finished. That leaves Bail and I'd have Gilbert every day of the week over Bail. Was 3rd in Saints B&F last year. We have no blokes prepared to take the game on across half back and we'd be stupid not to look at him

 

[BigSexc]

Gilbert can't kick on the run so no interest from me...

North Melboune are keen on Maric- anyone we want from them that's available? Matt Campbell?

efa.


.... and no!

 

[Demon 16]

How old is Gilbert - and what would he cost?

I dont suspect either answer to be favourable for us.

 

[lloyd christmas]

How old is Gilbert - and what would he cost?

I dont suspect either answer to be favourable for us.

Just turned 25. I'd think Maric and our 2nd rounder would get it done. Maybe upgrade their 3rd rounder to sweeten the deal