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Dutton Promises To Come Out Swinging In Fadden By-Election
Opposition leader Peter Dutton has promised to come out swinging in the upcoming Fadden by-election. The statement came after the Queensland LNP selected former partner swapper Cameron Caldwell as …
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From The Saturday Paper 10JUN2023
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To Peta Credlin, there is little that separates Winston Churchill and Ben Roberts-Smith. Both made difficult decisions and lived with their consequences. To her, Roberts-Smith is a brave and rugged man, a soldier’s soldier, “a hero, even if very possibly a flawed one, whose excesses, if any, are understandable in the cauldron of war”.
Credlin, a former chief of staff to Tony Abbott, writes this in the newspaper Roberts-Smith used to intimidate witnesses. The soldier had a private investigator place a false story in The Australian about one of the people testifying against him. He had the same private investigator send threatening letters to another witness. Credlin does not mention this.
Instead, she writes: “And even if he were to be convicted of a war crime, to what extent, if any, should that detract from his undoubted heroics in winning the ultimate military accolade?” She writes: “And if mistakes were made, at least some of the fault lies with us too; and with the senior commanders, now tut-tutting about the excesses of military culture.”
Credlin repeats the central argument of Roberts-Smith’s defence: that the men complaining about his conduct are jealous of his courage. She argues that a criminal court might find differently to a civil one. She pretends that the evidence was of heated decisions rather than calculated, ritualistic killing. “I’m not sure that any of us,” she writes, “who have never been exposed to deadly combat, can fully grasp just how psychologically fraught and morally deadening this could be.”
Credlin likens the treatment of Roberts-Smith to the treatment of George Pell and Bruce Lehrmann. She sees them as victims of moral indignation. It is no coincidence that The Australian has been a champion of all three men. The paper is a paranoid defender of privilege. It views all events through the lens of identity.
Not even war crimes can offend its fixed positions. The paper is untroubled by a court finding it true that Ben Roberts-Smith kicked an elderly shepherd off a cliff and then had him shot. It is untroubled by evidence he ordered another man be killed while he was being questioned. It doesn’t care that he machine-gunned a man to death and then took his prosthetic leg as a novelty drinking vessel.
The Australian pretends it is taking a nuanced position, that it has wrestled with complexity and is publishing what others won’t. This is nonsense. Its coverage of Ben Roberts-Smith is identical to its coverage of climate change. It is contrarian to the point of incoherence. It mistakes its agenda for doubt and treats this error as a virtue.
Ben Roberts-Smith is not the victim of what Credlin calls “the obloquy we seem so ready to confer on the pariah du jour”. He is the victim of nothing more than his own actions, actions that killed innocent men, that diminished this country and the soldiers who serve it. On the evidence that has been heard, he is a vain and dangerous man whose capacity for violence thrills and titillates his supporters, whose hubris has finally caught up with him.
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Peta and the wolves
To Peta Credlin, there is little that separates Winston Churchill and Ben Roberts-Smith. Both made difficult decisions and lived with their consequences. To her, Roberts-Smith is a brave and rugged man, a soldier’s soldier, “a hero, even if very possibly a flawed one, whose excesses, if any, are understandable in the cauldron of war”.
Credlin, a former chief of staff to Tony Abbott, writes this in the newspaper Roberts-Smith used to intimidate witnesses. The soldier had a private investigator place a false story in The Australian about one of the people testifying against him. He had the same private investigator send threatening letters to another witness. Credlin does not mention this.
Instead, she writes: “And even if he were to be convicted of a war crime, to what extent, if any, should that detract from his undoubted heroics in winning the ultimate military accolade?” She writes: “And if mistakes were made, at least some of the fault lies with us too; and with the senior commanders, now tut-tutting about the excesses of military culture.”
Credlin repeats the central argument of Roberts-Smith’s defence: that the men complaining about his conduct are jealous of his courage. She argues that a criminal court might find differently to a civil one. She pretends that the evidence was of heated decisions rather than calculated, ritualistic killing. “I’m not sure that any of us,” she writes, “who have never been exposed to deadly combat, can fully grasp just how psychologically fraught and morally deadening this could be.”
Credlin likens the treatment of Roberts-Smith to the treatment of George Pell and Bruce Lehrmann. She sees them as victims of moral indignation. It is no coincidence that The Australian has been a champion of all three men. The paper is a paranoid defender of privilege. It views all events through the lens of identity.
Not even war crimes can offend its fixed positions. The paper is untroubled by a court finding it true that Ben Roberts-Smith kicked an elderly shepherd off a cliff and then had him shot. It is untroubled by evidence he ordered another man be killed while he was being questioned. It doesn’t care that he machine-gunned a man to death and then took his prosthetic leg as a novelty drinking vessel.
The Australian pretends it is taking a nuanced position, that it has wrestled with complexity and is publishing what others won’t. This is nonsense. Its coverage of Ben Roberts-Smith is identical to its coverage of climate change. It is contrarian to the point of incoherence. It mistakes its agenda for doubt and treats this error as a virtue.
Ben Roberts-Smith is not the victim of what Credlin calls “the obloquy we seem so ready to confer on the pariah du jour”. He is the victim of nothing more than his own actions, actions that killed innocent men, that diminished this country and the soldiers who serve it. On the evidence that has been heard, he is a vain and dangerous man whose capacity for violence thrills and titillates his supporters, whose hubris has finally caught up with him.
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War or peace keeping? Should we expect a higher standard in one? Or why go there in the first place?
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Yes. Why indeed.
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Yes it wasn’t about territory. It was about ‘democracy’. Hearts and minds. Higher standards
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It was about money for the war machine and doing what we were told.
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gladdens my heart this. imagine never having to endure a reactionary gov’t again. keep being divisive and moving ‘em further to the right spud and rupee
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Not sure in what world they think reminding people about the Brittany Higgins episode is a good strategy
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I don't get it either. Won't help with woman's or young folks votes.
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It's the classic Ben Roberts-Smith strategy.
Insular sociopaths increasingly fail to understand ethical, moral or social priorities of public.
It's the same as supporting Lowe publicly, they fail to grasp that people are suffering and some out of touch codger punishing them for getting under inflation pay rises by threatening their livelihoods, isn't a rational appeal to voters material interests.
It's the same as supporting Lowe publicly, they fail to grasp that people are suffering and some out of touch codger punishing them for getting under inflation pay rises by threatening their livelihoods, isn't a rational appeal to voters material interests.
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Potato reckons Shorten and Labor are politicising the Robodebt RC which is completely and totally not projection on his behalf.
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A reminder that Queensland - particularly regional Queensland - is now the heartland of the Federal Coalition.
This particular resolution has come from the Brisbane-based Bonner branch.
It urges the future government to “restore” the ABC to being a “broadcaster of balance, integrity, trustworthiness, patriotism, colour-blindness, high moral standards” and a “supporter of faiths”.
(A reminder that Bonner is one of three marginal Queensland seats (Forde and Leichhardt being the others) where the number of Pentecostal Christians is between 50 and 80 per cent higher than the state average.
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And yet they haven’t hardly had an lnp state govt since sir joh
They are trolling the rest of us
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Is this one deeper than at first
Dutton is breathtakingly short of self-awareness. This bloke's whole schtick seems to be doing something, and then accusing the government of doing that thing.
He stokes division about the Voice, then says the Voice is divisive. He politicises welfare-bashing, then says the Robodebt Royal Commission is politicised. His party legislated the Stage Three tax cuts which will pump billions into already-full pockets, then says the Albanese government is inflationary. He offers no solutions whatsoever, then says the government is out of ideas.
Some people will be dumb and disengaged enough to fall for his talking points. Yet I can't see the Coalition using a rump of Queensland seats as a springboard for getting minority or majority government back any time soon. They are a long, long way behind.
He stokes division about the Voice, then says the Voice is divisive. He politicises welfare-bashing, then says the Robodebt Royal Commission is politicised. His party legislated the Stage Three tax cuts which will pump billions into already-full pockets, then says the Albanese government is inflationary. He offers no solutions whatsoever, then says the government is out of ideas.
Some people will be dumb and disengaged enough to fall for his talking points. Yet I can't see the Coalition using a rump of Queensland seats as a springboard for getting minority or majority government back any time soon. They are a long, long way behind.
This is why the conservatives hate the ABC. Their journos dare to speak the truth.
