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Phantom Draft 2009 (Version 2)

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With the draft camp results in and the draft commencing soon, I thought I'd make another phantom draft due to the drastic changes, so feel free to lock or delete my previous phantom. Trade results are also in.

This draft will also include second round picks, though, still in the process of making them. Not to mention, I will be re-editing this once the trades are done and dusted. Regardless-

Priority pick, Melbourne - Tom Scully - (Not much to say here, absolute gun. Reads play well, tackles hard, generally uses the ball well. Can't go wrong picking him at #1)
Pick #2, Melbourne - Jack Trengove - (I reckon Melbourne will take Trengove instead of Butcher here. They already have a few forward options and Trengove is a great youngster with good leadership skills and a great kick, though it could go either way between him and Butcher)
Pick #3, Richmond - Dustin Martin - (Richmond are rebuilding and if they need to improve on one thing, it's their kicking skill. Dustin Martin is one of the best kicks in the draft and overall, he's a brilliant football who's loaded with skill)
Pick #4, Fremantle - Anthony Morabito - (Has Fremantle written all over him. Morabito is a home-grown youngster and would fit in Fremantle nicely whether playing a tall midfield role or a mid-sized KP role)
Pick #5, North Melbourne - Ben Cunnington - (North Melbourne already have plenty of developing Key Position players like Hansen, Tarrant, Josh Smith and right now, they need quality in their midfield. Cunnington is probably the next best midfielder in the draft. Goes hard at the ball, fearless and has been likened to James Bartel)
Pick #6, Sydney - Gary Rohan - (Fast crumbing forward who reads the play very well. Good mark too and would suit Sydney's messy game style well with his running. Not to mention, he can play midfield too and if anything, Sydney need to stock up on young midfielders)
Pick #7, West Coast - Kane Lucas - (Probably destined to go to West Coast. Classy midfielder, sometimes his kicking is brilliant, sometimes it's not but regardless, he's still a very good player who can kick a few goals too. Not to mention, he's home-grown for the Eagles. Tested very well in Draft Camp too, coming first in the agility test, he's quite an athletic freak)
Pick #8, Port Adelaide - John Butcher - (John Butcher's slipping will come to an end at this point. Port need a new key forward with Treadrea aging and question marks on their own Trengove. Butcher is a strong marking Key Forward who also applies a lot of pressure on opposition)
Pick #9, Port Adelaide - Luke Tapscott - (Port Adelaide will go with a home-grown gun with this pick. Tapscott is one of the best kicks in the draft. He usually plays midfield but can push up forward too and make a dangerous target of himself)
Pick #10, Essendon - Koby Stevens - (Essendon have been drafting several KPPs over the years so now's the time they have to recruit a midfielder to help Watson with the clearances. Stevens would be an excellent choice as he's quite a tank of a midfielder, goes hard at it and can kick a few goals too)
Pick #11, Melbourne - Aaron Black - (Melbourne need a KPF and Black here has shown some brilliant form recently, kicking bags of goals in the WAFL. He's older than the other draftees but what you get with Black is a genuine Full Forward who has football smarts with good marking and kicking skills)
Pick #12, Carlton - Jake Carlisle - (With Carlton losing Fevola, they'll need to secure another forward option. Carlisle would be the best available as he's quick on the lead, very good overhead and would replace Fev nicely. One might argue the Blues will take Talia but I think they're already stocked with KPDs and a Fevola replacement is a requirement IMO. Not to mention, Carlisle's a center-half forward too, so Carlton still got something they needed, even when they had Fev)
Pick #13, Adelaide - Lewis Jetta (They recruited KPPs last year so this time it's midfielders. With Jetta, they get an exceptional footballer who has great skills, a penetrating kick and likes to kick a goal too. Could replace McLeod too when he retires)
Pick #14, Sydney - Jordan Gysberts (As I said with their previous selection, Sydney need midfielders developing to take over the roles of Kirk, Bolton, O'Keefe etc and at this point, Gysberts is definitely the best available. Very silky and clean midfielder who's also quite tall being over 190cm)
Pick #15, Western Bulldogs - Daniel Talia (People say the Dogs need a Key Forward but then forget that their Key Position Defenders are getting on the age too. Daniel Talia would fit with the dogs well as they really do need a CHB and someone to be the heir of Lake)
Pick #16, Port Adelaide - Nathan Vardy (They picked a midfielder and a forward earlier in the draft so now, they need a ruckman to be the heir for Brogan and Lade. Vardy is definitely the best available and I'd imagine Port would be very happy to get him)
Pick #17, Geelong - Matthew Panos (It was either a ruckman or a forward I had Geelong taking but I don't think Geelong will pass on Panos as he is a good Center-Half Forward who does all the simple things well. He's good on the lead and can take a good mark and kick it from 50 out. Needs to work on his pressure a bit however)
Pick #18, Melbourne - Brad Sheppard (Melbourne might get another KPP with this pick but I think they'll pick Sheppard because he's a gun Half Back flank who would free up Jack Grimes to play in the midfield which seems to work best for him as seen in the latter part of the season)
Pick #19, Richmond - Ryan Bastinac (As I stated previously, Richmond need some elite kickers in their side. While some may argue they need a key position forward, I think they're alright with Riewoldt at CHF and several developing options at FF whether it be Putt, Post, Vickery etc. Bastinac is a highly rated midfielder with
Pick #20, Fremantle - Troy Taylor (Pavlich is getting older and their forward line's strength is getting thinner. Fortunatley, Troy Taylor will be at Freo's pick and he's a gun. Capable of doing amazing things in the forward line and would be the successor to none other than the Wizard)
Pick #21, North Melbourne - Jake Melksham (To fill the last gap in North's developing midfield, they'll select Melksham who is a gun with good disposal and will compliment Ziebell and Cunnington well)
Pick #22, West Coast - Mitchell Duncan (I probably have this guy slipping too much too. Very skilled midfielder who can play a KP role if needed. Would fit inside West Coast's developing side well as a utility)
Pick #23, West Coast - Travis Colyer (West Coast have stated they need a crumbing forward as they want to push LeCras into the midfield and Colyer would work nicely. He's a very fast player who likes to kick a goal and plays midfield too)
Pick #24, Essendon - Roland Ah Chee (Taking Stevens with their first pick, Essendon will be looking for some extra speed in their midfield with the loss of Lovett. Ah Chee would be a good selection here as he runs like a bullet)
Pick #25, North Melbourne - Ben Griffiths (With North taking 2 midfielders prior to this pick, I think they'll go for a forward here. Ben Griffiths being the best available would work well as he's quite a tank, has a huge kick and a strong mark. He could be the pressance in North's forward line, working with Josh Smith and Robbie Tarrant)
Pick #26, Essendon - James Craig (Hille is aging, Laycock is a spud, Ryder is more of a defender/forward and there are several question marks over Bellchambers and Hooker. In the end, Essendon need another ruckman and Craig is the right choice at this stage. Although undersized, he does a great job rucking, good mark and can play in defence or up forward)
Pick #27, Brisbane - Mark Hutchings (I think Brisbane will go for Mark Hutchings with their first pick. He's a midfielder that goes hard in the contests, great leadership and a pretty good kick too. Would replace Simon Black)
Pick #28, Geelong - Jack Fitzpatrick (I think Geelong will be searching for a ruckman since losing Shane Mumford. With Ottens aging, Fitzpatrick would not only be a good replacement for him in the ruck, but up forward too. I don't think Trent West or Dawson Simpson can fill that role)
Pick #29, Adelaide - Alex Carey (With Adelaide's old players on the age, Adelaide will want a good replacement for Tyson Edwards and Carey would be great. Quality inside midfielder who will work nicely with Vince, Mackay etc)
Pick #30, Collingwood - Sam Reid With Simon Prestigiacomo retiring soon and Leigh Brown unlikely play at the Pies for much longer, I think Collingwood will look for another KP Defender to give them a nice and solid in development. Not to mention, Sam is the brother of Collingwood defender, Ben)
Pick #31, Western Bulldogs - Nat Fyfe (The Bulldogs definitely need a new small forward and Fyfe would definitely be the heir to Akermanis when he's not around anymore. Fyfe is a creative and fast small forward who likes kicking goals he will set their future development up well.
Pick #32, St.Kilda - Jesse Crichton (Skillful inside midfielder who will probably take over the Hayes role. Goes very hard at it and I was pretty impressed watching him play)
Pick #33, Essendon - Callum Bartlett (Would have gone first round if he didn't get injured. High risk but potentially high reward. Bartlett is a very talented midfielder who likes kicking the ball and goals for that matter)
 
Re: My Phantom draft (First round)

Rohan a bit high, but not a bad effort. Surely North would go Lucas if available. Cannot see Tapscott go that high either. I'd love Stevens at Essendon, but he seems a "Sydney-type" selection
 
Re: My Phantom draft (First round)

What's the point of a phantom with no explanations to the reason behind each pick and a description of the player. Anyone can throw together a first round by reading names off the board and watching YouTube footage!

Why don't you try again and add explanations and reasons behind your selections. Just a thought.
 
Re: My Phantom draft (First round)

No way in hell will Dustin Martin last until pick 10, he'll go at 4 with North - probably the third best mid in this draft.
 

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Re: My Phantom draft (First round)

Martin won't go top 5, there is too much class up the top end- Who out of Scull, Butcher, Trengrove, Morabito, and Lucas will he push out? I have him in the 6-15 area, and he could go absolutely anywhere inside that pic range.
 
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Re: My Phantom draft (First round)

What's the point of a phantom with no explanations to the reason behind each pick and a description of the player. Anyone can throw together a first round by reading names off the board and watching YouTube footage!

Why don't you try again and add explanations and reasons behind your selections. Just a thought.

Sorry, I completely forgot to add those. I'll do so very soon.
 
Re: My Phantom draft (First round)

I'd have Martin before Lucas.

WCE won't and that is the point. The top 4 are obvious, WCE have pick 5 and will pick Lucas the local kid. Lucas and Martin are quite close, I'd take Lucas as I rate his footskills more though.
 
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Sorry, I completely forgot to add those. I'll do so very soon.

No problems mate, it's just that you will get no credibility for the work you have done if you dont add explanations.

As seen in previous years any noob can throw together a phantom and just re-arrange 1st round selections made by other posters who make the time and effort to research and view more than just youtube footage.
 
Re: My Phantom draft (First round)

I am interested on your thoughts of why you think Carlton would overlook Talia and take Carlisle. I am a fan of Carlisle but I think the versatility of Talia is more valuable.
 
Re: My Phantom draft (First round)

I think the Rohan - North pick is very interesting. Normally he wouldn't go that early but with a team like North who struggle financially, a flashy player like Rohan (who could become a big name like Rioli or Franklin) might be a good choice for them.
 
Re: My Phantom draft (First round)

I think the Rohan - North pick is very interesting. Normally he wouldn't go that early but with a team like North who struggle financially, a flashy player like Rohan (who could become a big name like Rioli or Franklin) might be a good choice for them.

One of the dumbest posts ever on Bigfooty!
 

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Re: My Phantom draft (First round)

why is it stupid to think that North would put a high value on the marketability of a player?
 
Re: My Phantom draft (First round)

Ok, nearly done with the descriptions.

I am interested on your thoughts of why you think Carlton would overlook Talia and take Carlisle. I am a fan of Carlisle but I think the versatility of Talia is more valuable.

While the AFL.com.au article states otherwise, I do think Talia's hamstring injury will hinder his selection at least a little bit. I also think Carlton need a dedicated forward option and Carlisle fits the bill there (Not to mention, if he develops properly, he might be able to do what Fevola is doing now). Though, he does need to be a bit more consistant IMO.
 
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WCE won't and that is the point. The top 4 are obvious, WCE have pick 5 and will pick Lucas the local kid. Lucas and Martin are quite close, I'd take Lucas as I rate his footskills more though.

We're looking likely to have pick 6 at this stage.

The OP has Melbourne getting two pick 1s, which might be confusing people.
 
Re: My Phantom draft (First round)

No way in hell will Dustin Martin last until pick 10, he'll go at 4 with North - probably the third best mid in this draft.
I would rate him top 3 to be honest, I have him ahead of Trengove.
Dustin Martin ticks all the boxes except probably his size, which is the only negative difference between him and Trengove.

He's definetly one of my favourites this year.
 
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I would rate him top 3 to be honest, I have him ahead of Trengove.
Dustin Martin ticks all the boxes except probably his size, which is the only negative difference between him and Trengove.

He's definetly one of my favourites this year.

Martin is down as taller and heavier than Trengove.
 
Re: My Phantom draft (First round)

We're looking likely to have pick 6 at this stage.

The OP has Melbourne getting two pick 1s, which might be confusing people.

Melboourne are going to lose to St.Kilda I'm 99.99% (rounded off to 100) sure about and thus, they get a priority pick.

Also what you have to keep in mind with Lucas is that he's from WA, while it doesn't matter too much if you bring them down to Victoria, it's still better to choose your local, just in case.
 

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Re: My Phantom draft (First round)

why is it stupid to think that North would put a high value on the marketability of a player?

The idea that a club would pick a player based upon his marketability rather than his football skills is laughable!!

North will pick the best available midfielder with their pick, not the most marketable!
 
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The idea that a club would pick a player based upon his marketability rather than his football skills is laughable!!

North will pick the best available midfielder with their pick, not the most marketable!


I Didn't say you would choose the most marketable player I said your club would put a high value on marketability just like they did when they were looking for a coach.

And I do believe you will take the best midfieder but it's no secret that your club is desperate for money and i was simply justifying the selection of Rohan to Nth Melbourne. He will be a could player you know?
 
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Well I thought Gary Rohan would suit the Kangaroos in general. They might go for a midfielder like Lucas or Martin but IMO, Rohan just looks like one of those very important players, being a strong mark and he's good at setting up and reading play which gives him amazing crumbing ability.

Oh and with the re-arranged ladder, I changed the picks a little bit.
 
Re: My Phantom draft (First round)

Nice effort mate - well done. :thumbsu:

Fairly similar to mine with the main differences being that I dont think Talias injury will have an effect and I gave him to Hawthorn. I also have Panos lasting until the Bulldogs because I think he's a bit one dimensional and not enough tricks to go really early.

I cant help myself here (as Im a Melbourne fan) - who did you struggle to leave out, and who do you think Melb will take with the first pick of the second round?
 
Re: My Phantom draft (First round)

Nice effort mate - well done. :thumbsu:

Fairly similar to mine with the main differences being that I dont think Talias injury will have an effect and I gave him to Hawthorn. I also have Panos lasting until the Bulldogs because I think he's a bit one dimensional and not enough tricks to go really early.

I cant help myself here (as Im a Melbourne fan) - who did you struggle to leave out, and who do you think Melb will take with the first pick of the second round?

Yeah, I know Talia's injury probably won't hinder his selection too much but there's always a chance. Also, regarding Hawthorn's selection, I thought they would have needed another midfielder as theirs doesn't seem to be working out too well at the moment and Cunnington is a gun (Might go earlier too). I rate Panos highly, while he isn't capable of doing much other than marking and kicking some good goals, what needs to be taken into consideration is that a lot of teams want exactaly what he does. Just look at Brendan Fevola and how he turned out.

The player I reckon Melbourne will get with their second round would have to be Carlisle or maybe Griffiths, considering I had them take 2 midfielders with their first 2 picks. Melbourne seem to need a Key Forward to top off their development and while Carlisle isn't the best KP around, he and Watts will be tearing opposition up if they're being fed by the likes of Trengove, Grimes, Davey etc.
 

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