Player comparison thread

[Cartman121]

Knights!!!

 

[54Dogs]

Agree with that.

When thinking about your final team, who you won't have is just as important as who you will have.

While starting with two or three lower end keepers (and I'm talking real lower end) may seem appealing, if it means that three or more of the true premiums won't end up in your team it could turn out to be a real disadvantage in the latter stages of the season.

With the increase of quality in the backs this year, there's a far lower chance a 75 average will cut it as keeper material.

I tend to disagree here. 75-80 has a chance of holding as a keeper in the backs IMO. Every year it looks good on paper at this time until the injury train picks up speed. If I looked at my team in Rd1 last year there was no way Stevens was going to be a keeper and I'm sure there's plenty of others in the same boat but he was still there at the death averaging 89. Yet we still talk about a mid averaging 95 to be a keeper even though 6 of the top 10 still had Stevens at the death last year.

Was last year a bad year for injuries? Absolutely not, it was a normal year because every year is a bad year for injuries.

When I look at my team now I can see my final 7 backs all averaging 85+ but in reality it probably won't happen. If you have a player who may pull 75 you can still upgrade them if things are going swimingly but if it's all gone sour you can hold them as a keeper and save the trade. In reality the difference between 75 and 80 over 10 rounds is only 50 points so it's not the end of the earth.

 

[Lakey91]

Yeh, i was just thinking though, does anybody else dislike most of the top teir of backs on offer? Bowden, Hodge, Carrazzo, Wheatley, Mackie, Scottland, and even Embley i dont really like to start in my final team. Im getting the feeling though that i need to squeeze one of them in there...

Chad v Scottland

Both kinda similar IMO...

 

[lifelike_]

I tend to disagree here. 75-80 has a chance of holding as a keeper in the backs IMO. Every year it looks good on paper at this time until the injury train picks up speed. If I looked at my team in Rd1 last year there was no way Stevens was going to be a keeper and I'm sure there's plenty of others in the same boat but he was still there at the death averaging 89. Yet we still talk about a mid averaging 95 to be a keeper even though 6 of the top 10 still had Stevens at the death last year.

Was last year a bad year for injuries? Absolutely not, it was a normal year because every year is a bad year for injuries.

When I look at my team now I can see my final 7 backs all averaging 85+ but in reality it probably won't happen. If you have a player who may pull 75 you can still upgrade them if things are going swimingly but if it's all gone sour you can hold them as a keeper and save the trade. In reality the difference between 75 and 80 over 10 rounds is only 50 points so it's not the end of the earth.

Yeah I was probably a bit harsh in nearly writing off the chance of a 75 average being a keeper, but IMO having too many in your backs averaging 75-80 is just asking for trouble.

Just having a look on FanFooty, the positional changes this year have given us an extra six backs priced at an average of over 84. That's nearly an entire backline. Had any of them been backs last year they would have been placed in the top seven in terms of average.

There's a very, very, very good chance that the extent of the injuries we saw last year won't happen again due to the new found depth in the backs this year. With the big six inclusions, they've essentially given us an entirely new, quality backline to choose from this year. As a result IMO the minimum keeper average has increased, and having too many at the very lower end of the scale at the expense of the true guns won't cut it.

 

[NT.Thunder]

I would like to here this from someoen like Stormer, SD and DW who have all finished high and see what they think.

Maybe you could start your own thread with these guys, maybe they'll induct you into NP.....MAYBE you will become the EDT'r that you have always dreamed about.

Me i just want to be a Jedi Knight, and honestly, i have a better chance of achieving my dream.

 

[drummoyne]

I dont like to get too caught up with cutoffs for 'keeper' or 'premium' status. It would be fine to speculate in the perfect world without injuries/form slumps (DT wise) though in reality these exist. Things never go to plan in DT, those who adjust best throughout the season will end up high in the rankings come round 22.

I personally see alot of potential in the backs priced around 310k. If some of these guys could increase their output by only 5-10ppg they would be a certain keeper IMO. Why would you burn a trade to get a 'premium' when your others are doing fine. Trades are golden and should be used sparingly as everyone found out last year. If a backman averaging 80 is the worst player in your side come round 22 I would think you have won the damn thing!

 

[chadleverington]

Yeh, i was just thinking though, does anybody else dislike most of the top teir of backs on offer? Bowden, Hodge, Carrazzo, Wheatley, Mackie, Scottland, and even Embley i dont really like to start in my final team. Im getting the feeling though that i need to squeeze one of them in there...

Chad v Scottland

Both kinda similar IMO...

A bit that way. Bowden really screwed me over last year getting dropped. Hodge is a quality act, but with limited pre season i wouldn't start with him, certainly look at it if his price comes down. Mackie is a star, durability is my question with him. Scottland V Chad, well i am port so i am bias Chad always has the durability question over his head.

 

[54Dogs]

Yeah I was probably a bit harsh in nearly writing off the chance of a 75 average being a keeper, but IMO having too many in your backs averaging 75-80 is just asking for trouble.

Just having a look on FanFooty, the positional changes this year have given us an extra six backs priced at an average of over 84. That's nearly an entire backline. Had any of them been backs last year they would have been placed in the top seven in terms of average.

There's a very, very, very good chance that the extent of the injuries we saw last year won't happen again due to the new found depth in the backs this year. With the big six inclusions, they've essentially given us an entirely new, quality backline to choose from this year. As a result IMO the minimum keeper average has increased, and having too many at the very lower end of the scale at the expense of the true guns won't cut it.

Fair call, there's certainly more depth back there this year. You can probably carry one at 75-80 but agree you would want the others doing well to offset this. Also depends how strongly you upgrade in other areas as to how strong the overall team is.

 

[mitchell12345]

houlihan or headland
do you think headland will play in the middle next year?

 

[54Dogs]

houlihan or headland
do you think headland will play in the middle next year?

I would think he'll rotate through there for all of his 6-8 games.

 

[Dunn - Well Done]

My forward is the strongest part of my lineup at the current moment with
Pav
Lids
SJ
Sylvia
Thomas
Lucas
Yarran

Ballantyne
M.Brown WCE

However i think myself being so set on the players i have i might be missing on some of the cheaper players such as Higgins, Alwynd davey and Vez all around that 190 - 220k mark.

This strong forward line is making my midfield look quite weak which isnt a good sign but i have also picked J.W.S (most undurable player going around in the backs). I was thinking that im probably better off getting Higgins and a premium back instead of SJ and J.W.S

So this bring me to the comparsion of J.W.S and Higgins (although different positions)

 

[matt73]

My forward is the strongest part of my lineup at the current moment with
Pav
Lids
SJ
Sylvia
Thomas
Lucas
Yarran

Ballantyne
M.Brown WCE

However i think myself being so set on the players i have i might be missing on some of the cheaper players such as Higgins, Alwynd davey and Vez all around that 190 - 220k mark.

This strong forward line is making my midfield look quite weak which isnt a good sign but i have also picked J.W.S (most undurable player going around in the backs). I was thinking that im probably better off getting Higgins and a premium back instead of SJ and J.W.S

So this bring me to the comparsion of J.W.S and Higgins (although different positions)

DWD - Your question with regards to your team is impossible to answer without knowing what your current backline is. If you backline is crap with not enough keepers then you may have to sacrifice one of your forwards to sort that section out.

Jesse Smith is an unknown quantity injury wise and should only be selected if you have only 1 or 2 rookies in that position IMO.

 

[Cartman121]

My forward is the strongest part of my lineup at the current moment with
Pav
Lids
SJ
Sylvia
Thomas
Lucas
Yarran

Ballantyne
M.Brown WCE

However i think myself being so set on the players i have i might be missing on some of the cheaper players such as Higgins, Alwynd davey and Vez all around that 190 - 220k mark.

This strong forward line is making my midfield look quite weak which isnt a good sign but i have also picked J.W.S (most undurable player going around in the backs). I was thinking that im probably better off getting Higgins and a premium back instead of SJ and J.W.S

So this bring me to the comparsion of J.W.S and Higgins (although different positions)

Haven't you said on numerous occassions that you weren't going to post your team on BF?

 

[Dunn - Well Done]

Haven't you said on numerous occassions that you weren't going to post your team on BF?

Yes i have

Its another thing trying not to post it

like smoking and it being addictive i guess

But this forward line is the best possible outcome, i havnt even fitted in 30 players under the salary cap yet, so it will probably change a fair bit.

It is also not my entire team

 

[chadleverington]

Just chagne Thomas to Veszpremi and upgrade your backs with the cash Thomas sucks anyway .

 

[DaVe86]

The forward line i reckon is the most interesting part of this years DT. I reckon it will be won and lost in defence....but your forward line strategy will be the point of difference for the first half of the year.


Do you go Premium/Rookie or get all the cash cows around 200K.

Very hard to overlook Higgins, Lucas, Davey and Vez...but then again i doubt any have the potential to average above 70 and therefore it may be worth looking at the amount of rookies at basement price that will tempt so many.

Altogether there is way more bottom end and mid-range depth in the forward line than anywhere else, so no doubt most people are going to be looking to save some cash up forward...its just whether they go for premiums and rookies or even it out that will interest.

The forward line strategy may seperate the pack a bit.

 

[Athomas]

just chagne thomas to veszpremi and upgrade your backs with the cash thomas sucks anyway .

shhhh don't tell everyone, they think he might break out or something :d

 

[Dunn - Well Done]

D86, i actuall disagree with you saying that the forwarld lines "way more bottom end and mid-range depth in the forward line than anywhere else"

I think the forward line has very little depth of mid prices and bottome end (if this means cheapies not including rookies under 150k). The forward line sure has some excellent rookies to pick from and also some very good 200k players but there is probably only 4 decent ones (Vez, Lucas, Davey and Higgins). After that i only see a few around the thomas price than the rest are all premiums and keepers that show great value IMO.

I think in each position their is a lack of good midpricers.

I think its going to be the spot that is also the most interesting however (forwards) due to there being so many options and quality players available.

 

[Lakey91]

Yeh im hoping a few more FW mid pricers will pop up during PS.

 

[DaVe86]

D86, i actuall disagree with you saying that the forwarld lines "way more bottom end and mid-range depth in the forward line than anywhere else"

I think the forward line has very little depth of mid prices and bottome end (if this means cheapies not including rookies under 150k). The forward line sure has some excellent rookies to pick from and also some very good 200k players but there is probably only 4 decent ones (Vez, Lucas, Davey and Higgins). After that i only see a few around the thomas price than the rest are all premiums and keepers that show great value IMO.

I think in each position their is a lack of good midpricers.

I think its going to be the spot that is also the most interesting however (forwards) due to there being so many options and quality players available.

There you go, you've just named 5 decent mid-price options up forward. Considering you only need 7 player, and you would want to add a few premiums and rookies to that...seems as though there are a plethora of options there. In fact, can't see how it is possible to fit all 4 of those guys in your side.

So if you want to have a balanced forward line, the option is there.

 

[barone]

Jarrod Morton opinions?

his probably valued a little to high priced but he showed last season if given consistent games and tog through the midfield he can rack up the possessions as well as doing the extras such as tackling and marking! Will he get a chance in 09 or will he be held back another year to develop?

 

[Modra93]

D86, i actuall disagree with you saying that the forwarld lines "way more bottom end and mid-range depth in the forward line than anywhere else".

Do you really?...in another thread you said

however the forwards also show more value at 200k and rookie price than any other position which should be used to your advantage..

Stop talking shit RT

 

[Eye of the Hawk]

I would think he'll rotate through there for all of his 6-8 games.

Which is perfect considering that is the time I will be expecting to cash him in!

 

[Lakey91]

Back to my usual dilema - who would you rather in your final/starting team? Birchall or Gram?

 

[54Dogs]

Which is perfect considering that is the time I will be expecting to cash him in!

But they won't be in a row.